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I really want this to come out. However, knowing what it is, I won't be able to get it for at least 2-3 weeks after it does. I'll have to wait it out; watching youtube videos and reading every review I can find on the darn thing while patiently waiting for my chance to get it.
 
Ha, and I am sure you haven't read about how there is a loophole right now in the battery firmware of every MacBook Pro that can be exploited to potentially damage your machine or fry your battery?

And what about losing that iPhone 4 prototype? How secure are they at keeping things "under control"

Apple is a business, they can use your data to market to you, to try to sell you things, or to control your "purchasing environment" -- they are already doing this with "genius" in iTunes for crying out loud.

Battery exploit requires physical access and only comprises the battery at that point - just not that big a deal (and probably exists in a bunch of other laptop designs).
 
"Believed to be launching in October" ??? ReallY????

THERE WILL BE NO iPhone 5!!!!!!!!! There will be NO iPhone 5!!! I repeat.

Apple is going to hypnotize their fully salivating user-base and implant Broadcom chips in their brains so they can use mind waves to sell billions of Apps from the Mac App store and beam all of your thoughts to the iCloud.

THY APPLE hath CONTROL of YOU.

What
the
eff
have you been smoking?
 
Battery exploit requires physical access and only comprises the battery at that point - just not that big a deal (and probably exists in a bunch of other laptop designs).

This!

Yes your battery could asplode if you hand it to a homicidal maniac hacker...but realistically...thats not going to happen EVER.

I mean you could hand your laptop to a child and they could bridge the positive and negative terminals with a chewing gum wrapper and achieve the same effect..leaving a healthy combination of lithium and carbon and rust imprinted on their face.
 
This!

Yes your battery could asplode if you hand it to a homicidal maniac hacker...but realistically...thats not going to happen EVER.

I mean you could hand your laptop to a child and they could bridge the positive and negative terminals with a chewing gum wrapper and achieve the same effect..leaving a healthy combination of lithium and carbon and rust imprinted on their face.

Yeh, if you let little kids eat chewing gum, and they have access to mini phillips screwdrivers.
 
Ha, and I am sure you haven't read about how there is a loophole right now in the battery firmware of every MacBook Pro that can be exploited to potentially damage your machine or fry your battery?

If you hand me your MBP, I can show you an exploit that not only potentially, but practically damages the screen, keyboard, motherboard, battery, and case. It involves use of a large hammer.

This is like saying the money in your bank's safe isn't safe, because if someone managed to get through the 2 foot steel door, there is nothing that keeps them from putting fire to the money inside.
 
The only thing that could get me to upgrade is Flash support. I'm sick of not being able to view the internet properly. Quit messing around and just let Adobe make it.

I think this is a compelling argument. Just look at what having Flash has done for sales of the Playbook and other Android tablets, people are desperate for this feature.
 
I think this is a compelling argument. Just look at what having Flash has done for sales of the Playbook and other Android tablets, people are desperate for this feature.

Just want to check that this is sarcasm right?
(on the basis that MS tablets sold more than the playbook last quarter..and MS don't even have a tablet OS, just win7 with some really shoddy bolt ons)
 
I think if it comes in October... yeah no problems.

If they had released a new iPhone in June after Verizon got the "old" iPhone in February... yeah that would suck.

It would only have sucked for Verizon customers. The rest of us don't really care about Verizon.
 
Apple needs to pay attention to the only REAL serious computer they produce, the Mac Pro, the Power Macintosh of today, and stop their chicken-sh*tting with the iToys....if they don't get their game together, the serious computer users are going to abandon Apple and go elsewhere for real Power computing needs, if they can't be met by an Apple box anymore. And don't even start with the iCloud, that is a plan for total domination of the information ecosystem, with all of your sensitive data, photos, preferences and behaviors stored in a server farm in North Carolina...and I can guarantee you the uses of that data won't be 100% benign if the wrong people get their hands on it.

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Yes, and when the US can't repay their debt and China takes over full control of our economy and confiscates the iCloud infrastructure, your sensitive data will be under full control of the Chinese, where they can use that data to turn you to Socialism and bow to them. It's a direction that quite frankly scares me, iCloud is not as benign as it seems and may prove to the demise of the information age, when all of your private data and preferences are held on a remotely-controlled computer system (that can be hacked as well, I might add)

Forget that this post is off topic. It's so far off the wall, being off topic is only the beginning of the posters problem

China takes over US economy!!!??? :eek:

Right - hang in there guy.
 
I do think that with the new iPhones using a new "universal" chip, a single phone can handle AT&T, Spring, T-mobile and Verizon networks using the current implementations of GSM and CDMA with their HSDPA and EVDO digital cellular data access.

But the "kicker" is this: the new cellphone chipset--an Apple exclusive--will be the first low-power chipset designed for LTE 4G access. LTE access will not be available initially, but Apple will later activate it through a firmware update downloaded through iTunes.
 
"Believed to be launching in October" ??? ReallY????

THERE WILL BE NO iPhone 5!!!!!!!!! There will be NO iPhone 5!!! I repeat.

Apple is going to hypnotize their fully salivating user-base and implant Broadcom chips in their brains so they can use mind waves to sell billions of Apps from the Mac App store and beam all of your thoughts to the iCloud.

THY APPLE hath CONTROL of YOU.

Apple needs to pay attention to the only REAL serious computer they produce, the Mac Pro, the Power Macintosh of today, and stop their chicken-sh*tting with the iToys....if they don't get their game together, the serious computer users are going to abandon Apple and go elsewhere for real Power computing needs, if they can't be met by an Apple box anymore. And don't even start with the iCloud, that is a plan for total domination of the information ecosystem, with all of your sensitive data, photos, preferences and behaviors stored in a server farm in North Carolina...and I can guarantee you the uses of that data won't be 100% benign if the wrong people get their hands on it.

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Yes, and when the US can't repay their debt and China takes over full control of our economy and confiscates the iCloud infrastructure, your sensitive data will be under full control of the Chinese, where they can use that data to turn you to Socialism and bow to them. It's a direction that quite frankly scares me, iCloud is not as benign as it seems and may prove to the demise of the information age, when all of your private data and preferences are held on a remotely-controlled computer system (that can be hacked as well, I might add)

Ha, and I am sure you haven't read about how there is a loophole right now in the battery firmware of every MacBook Pro that can be exploited to potentially damage your machine or fry your battery?

And what about losing that iPhone 4 prototype? How secure are they at keeping things "under control"

Apple is a business, they can use your data to market to you, to try to sell you things, or to control your "purchasing environment" -- they are already doing this with "genius" in iTunes for crying out loud.

I hereby declare you 'the MR tin foil hat guy.' Post on!
 
But the "kicker" is this: the new cellphone chipset--an Apple exclusive--will be the first low-power chipset designed for LTE 4G access. LTE access will not be available initially, but Apple will later activate it through a firmware update downloaded through iTunes.


Man if only that were true !

Kinda going out on a hunch there huh?

One question though, why would Apple restrict fully capable LTE just to enable it later?
 
iPhone shortages = increased sales / demand.

Exactly what happened with the last ones.

This makes absolutely no sense. If there is a shortage on iPhones, that means there are fewer units to sell. So how would there be an increase in sales? I don't think there would be an actual increase in demand either. Demand won't go up because there are fewer units on the shelf.

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Man if only that were true !

Kinda going out on a hunch there huh?

One question though, why would Apple restrict fully capable LTE just to enable it later?

I'm not saying I agree that Apple will do this. But they have in the past. Look at the Macbook Pro notebooks. A few revisions ago, the airport card was specified as being a B/G card only. Months later, when the next revision came out, Apple started selling a $2.99 update for the card to enable the N capability. Noone really knows why Apple did this but it does happen.

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This!

Yes your battery could asplode if you hand it to a homicidal maniac hacker...but realistically...thats not going to happen EVER.

I mean you could hand your laptop to a child and they could bridge the positive and negative terminals with a chewing gum wrapper and achieve the same effect..leaving a healthy combination of lithium and carbon and rust imprinted on their face.

What does it mean for a battery to asplode??
 
Man if only that were true !

Kinda going out on a hunch there huh?

One question though, why would Apple restrict fully capable LTE just to enable it later?

Here's the reason for this: relatively limited LTE access, even on the Verizon network. I think Apple won't enable LTE fully until Verizon has just about all of the the USA coverage area LTE enabled.
 
Apple's Mac Pro depends on Intels roadmap. If Intel doesn't update, Apple can't update the Mac Pro.
The MacPro could use some more love than just an upgrade of its CPU's and chipset - after all it's supposed to be a professional workstation (at least that's what everyone keeps saying over and over again). Just to name a few topics:

- More drive slots with native support for 2,5" drives
- Hot-swap capability for internal drives
- Native support of RAID-5 et. al. out of the box
- Native support for eSata / USB3 (arguable, but Thunderbolt peripherals are not actually flooding the market and currently you can't even add TB support on existing MP's)
- Case re-design ("handles", port locations more to the top for better accessability when standing on the floor, smaller in general)
- Getting rid of the screws on hard drive sleds and PCIe-card retainer (standard in other workstations - so no black magic involved)
- Better support for good/professional-grade graphic cards (the current implementation allows for only one slot with full 16 lanes, choice of hardware is scarce at best)
- More than 20 lanes in total for PCIe (even the MP1,1 had more)
- Better SSD support out of the box (without blocking one of the existing drive bays, e.g. similar to the blade-type SSD's found in current Apple notebooks)
- Support for bootable PCIe SSD implementations
- PCIe 3.0
- 89PLUS PSU

etc.

In my opinion the MP currently is neither fish nor flesh: For a really good workstation it misses out on too many details and for Mac fans that just want more expandability than Ram and 1-2 harddrives (the latter even being unnecessary complicated on the iMac and Mac mini) it has become a little bit too expensive.

Sorry for being OT!
 
I do think that with the new iPhones using a new "universal" chip, a single phone can handle AT&T, Spring, T-mobile and Verizon networks using the current implementations of GSM and CDMA with their HSDPA and EVDO digital cellular data access.

But the "kicker" is this: the new cellphone chipset--an Apple exclusive--will be the first low-power chipset designed for LTE 4G access. LTE access will not be available initially, but Apple will later activate it through a firmware update downloaded through iTunes.

Wise person this one is, yes. In a Cloud it will come, in a Cloud. :apple:
 
Ha, and I am sure you haven't read about how there is a loophole right now in the battery firmware of every MacBook Pro that can be exploited to potentially damage your machine or fry your battery?

And what about losing that iPhone 4 prototype? How secure are they at keeping things "under control"

Apple is a business, they can use your data to market to you, to try to sell you things, or to control your "purchasing environment" -- they are already doing this with "genius" in iTunes for crying out loud.

How is "Genius" in iTunes controlling me, it's only helping me find music easier. We are in the age of Personel info everywhere and if someone wants to get yours, they will. We are far beyond stopping it, but it's not as easy for the mass, criminals will always be playing cat & mouse with security and the law. You just have to be careful when on the Internet as well as who you let have your info. So far I have not had any problems with Apple or any other business holding my info and I've done my banking on line as well for at least the last 5 yrs. I'm not saying we should feel totally safe and I also want security to continue to advance and come up with new ideas to secure our info.
 
You live in dreamland. iPhone shortages = no phones to buy = fewer sales.
Correct.

Then Tim Cook and Peter Oppenheimer announce at the quarterly earnings conference call that the company would have made more money if they had fewer supply constraints.

Apple sells every single iPhone it makes and it still isn't marketed in every place on the planet that wants an iPhone. The iPad is even less widely distributed than the iPhone.
 
The only thing that could get me to upgrade is Flash support. I'm sick of not being able to view the internet properly. Quit messing around and just let Adobe make it.

Funny, I was just thinking the opposite. Your statement about 'not being able to view the internet' suggests the largest problem. If web developers were doing their jobs better, you wouldn't be saying that you're sick of not being able to 'view the internet properly', rather that certain sites 'haven't yet created a mobile site yet'. In my opinion, there is the internet - which harnesses the full processing power of a PC and has no power consumption requirements; and then there is the mobile internet - which recognizes the limitations of a mobile device (ie. limited power capacity when on-the-go, limited processing power). What I'm sick of is a less-than-widespread adaptation of the mobile web on developers' end... Suck it up, devs; you ought to be designing two kinds of websites now.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

I always look for to the Monday rumor mill!

Well technically these statistics aren't a rumor....but :)
 
Here's the reason for this: relatively limited LTE access, even on the Verizon network. I think Apple won't enable LTE fully until Verizon has just about all of the the USA coverage area LTE enabled.
Nah, Apple will include LTE when most of the rest of the world has LTE coverage, which is currently does not. Live commercial LTE networks are few and far between right now. Apart from Verizon's fledgling LTE network, the other markets with live LTE are primarily in Scandinavia, maybe a couple of other countries.

Half of Apple's iPhone sales are to international markets. Apple has to build products for a global marketplace, not just the U.S.
 
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