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In the EU (I've checked Italy, France and Germany) the current price is 75€, they'll increase it by 24€.

$106 to get a battery replaced :)
When they launched the self-service program in the EU, it was actually more expensive than going to the Apple Store (if you include the tool rental). So I guess the price hike has been coming for a while.
 
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i'm actually surprised that the EU hadn't come up with a resolution yet that all portable electronic devices are required to have EASILY replaceable batteries that won't require the user to do more than just move a slider to unlatch the battery, or remove 4 screws at worst without having to disassemble the whole unit in delicate ways

That would mean every country in the EU having to deal with a very large amount of toxic waste at tax payer's expense and it would be impossible not to make waste and recycling systems more toxic.

People throw batteries in the general garbage. No matter how many times we tell the public to send to a recycling center they don't do it. They throw every kind of item in the same garbage.

It's much cleaner to just give your device to Apple (or whoever made your phone) and tell them to handle battery swap and recycling. Then they send all the old batteries to one place, instead of old batteries strewn all over the EU in desperate places mixed with food and other refuse.

You must think of the scale of a problem when talking about these things.
 
That would mean every country in the EU having to deal with a very large amount of toxic waste at tax payer's expense and it would be impossible not to make waste and recycling systems more toxic.

People throw batteries in the general garbage. No matter how many times we tell the public to send to a recycling center they don't do it. They throw every kind of item in the same garbage.

It's much cleaner to just give your device to Apple (or whoever made your phone) and tell them to handle battery swap and recycling. Then they send all the old batteries to one place, instead of old batteries strewn all over the EU in desperate places mixed with food and other refuse.

You must think of the scale of a problem when talking about these things.
In EU recycling is mandatory. We don’t live in island called USA xD
 
In EU recycling is mandatory. We don’t live in island called USA xD
Quoting myself "No matter how many times we tell the public to send to a recycling center they don't do it. They throw every kind of item in the same garbage."

Almost nobody does it. People are bad at recycling in every country. People have been told about these issues since 50 years. The greatest change came when batteries became hard to remove and the manufacturer had to recycle them.
 
Do you care if they used genuine replacement parts for the airplane that you are flying on? The point is who get's the blame, with genuine parts the manufacturer guarantees the quality control.
Might want to read the post you are responding to again. They are claiming apple sends non-genuine and you have to call to make sure it is genuine...
 
Quoting myself "No matter how many times we tell the public to send to a recycling center they don't do it. They throw every kind of item in the same garbage."

Almost nobody does it. People are bad at recycling in every country. People have been told about these issues since 50 years. The greatest change came when batteries became hard to remove and the manufacturer had to recycle them.
Got your point but…. Why the **** company chargers extra more for the same battery since recycling did not change so much? I mean they way it’s done?
 
Apple buys the battery for less than $10. It's the labor/overhead that are the most expensive component.
It’s more that Apple is trying to increase it’s margin on the back of its customers whereas other companies are almost entirely absorbing the price increase… What’s the point of being a multi billion company if you don’t even want to use your cash during crisis?!
 
Will you throw your old battery in the general trash or will you promise to recycle it as well as Apple can?

How many people will genuinely try to recycle? Most people lazily throw everything in the same trash and then the trash becomes dangerous to handle because it is mixed with the batteries.
It is not a difficult issue to solve. Just charge a deposit at the time of the purchase of a new battery that gets refunded when the old battery is returned. This is how automobile batteries are handled.
 
So, let's be fair and say the replacement battery costs $10-$15 including shipping and handling to the store. I would say a generous estimate that it takes an hour MAX to replace the battery in the iPhone and test and a few dollars for disposal/recycling. Then add in a bit of overhead for additional damage that may occur during replacement e.g. cracked glass/back panels damaged cables etc then the hourly rate for the job. Sure, Apple could do it cheaper but $89 is probably a reasonable cost to have it done. Plus, how many times are you likely to have the battery replaced? My iPhone 6S had its battery replaced after 4 years of use. Its currently kept as a space phone and still has 97% battery health.
 
Apple buys the battery for less than $10. It's the labor/overhead that are the most expensive component.
Thanks I was looking for that report but could not find it. That’s just insane! Probably a few cents more for Apple converts to 20$ more for customers!!!

And what about the price of iPhone 5s or 6 batteries that should be near to nothing nowadays… Apple never decreased it, and now they are even increasing it?! Come on!

That company is disgusting me every day a little bit more…

And for fanboys out there: no that’s not an industry standard, for instance Samsung said they will keep the same price for their next phone, and thus decrease their margin (same for Microsoft that seems to have kept it’s price points for Surface products). On the other side, there is Apple, increasing its margin over the repair program… And they dare say they care about the environnement? Disgusting…
 
Thanks I was looking for that report but could not find it. That’s just insane! Probably a few cents more for Apple converts to 20$ more for customers!!!

And what about the price of iPhone 5s or 6 batteries that should be near to nothing nowadays… Apple never decreased it, and now they are even increasing it?! Come on!

That company is disgusting me every day a little bit more…

And for fanboys out there: no that’s not an industry standard, for instance Samsung said they will keep the same price for their next phone, and thus decrease their margin (same for Microsoft that seems to have kept it’s price points for Surface products). On the other side, there is Apple, increasing its margin over the repair program… And they dare say they care about the environnement? Disgusting…

They care about the environment only when it helps their margins & revenue. This move to increase the battery replacement price only serves their margins and push more people to replace their phones instead of replacing just the battery, which is anything but good for the environment.

I had recently a problem with my iPhone 12 Pro outside the warranty and the reparation price they suggested was so high it was more interesting to just buy a new phone. This is what they want, and if it serves their financial results in the short term, it only make customers disgusted in their behavior on the long term.
 
I find it odd that the MacBook Pro battery replacement is so much more expensive than the MacBook Air’s. Isn‘t it pretty much the same battery? Does it require a special “pro” to replace it?
 
In EU recycling is mandatory. We don’t live in island called USA xD
Just because something is manadatory doesn’t mean most people do it.

i'm actually surprised that the EU hadn't come up with a resolution yet that all portable electronic devices are required to have EASILY replaceable batteries that won't require the user to do more than just move a slider to unlatch the battery, or remove 4 screws at worst without having to disassemble the whole unit in delicate ways

Which of course would mean no more water resistance in exchange for a feature few would use. I remember when replaceable batteries were needed because they would not last very long so a spare battery was needed to be able to make calls; now phone batteries last days between charges so a spare is not needed. Even if one is MagSafe makes it easy to slap on a battery in an emergency.

Given the replacement cycle of phones and the general longevity of batteries, mandating as solution as you propose would be a step back overall. I have several iPhones over 3 years old whose batteries still work just fine, and I suspect that is the case for most iPhones of that vintage. It seems 4 years of so is the typical point a battery gets to 80%, based on use and lithium battery chemistry. My 12 is still at 87%; after probably 400 or so charge cycles.

Even if they only last 50 - 70% as long on a charge, that is still well within the usability envelope. My guess is lack of OS updates and a desire for new features is as much a driver of new phone sales as poor battery life. Even so, a replacement battery is a good option for those who don’t need a new phone. I’ll probably replace my battery before the price increase since I have no need for a new phone. YMMV
 
How about Apple sell us the battery and let us do it ourselves without needing to call to confirm the battery they sent is genuine….

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They do, it’s called “self service repair” the cost is the same as you can have it done at an Apple Store.
 
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You can extend the life of Li ion batteries by not exposing them to temperature extremes (don't leave them in cold cars overnight or in hot cars for extended periods). Don't drain them excessively. It may be less expensive to use a iPhone case with an additional battery, or use a 3rd party to replace the battery (Mission Repair, uBreakIfix...). If a case with an additional battery is used from the start, that may extend the life of the internal battery, due to not draining the internal battery as much. I remember when pagers used disposable batteries, and when you could replace batteries on a flip phone. The build quality on those units was not good, and not at all water proof.

I've never needed an iPhone battery replaced. Have had battery on my 14-year old iPod Classic replaced once. Also, the Nickel Metal Hydride battery on my '13 Prius is 10 years old, and still going strong (average life 10-15 years). I live within 55 miles Northeast of Cincinnati, OH. Try to park in the shade in summer.

As far as laws concerning easy replacement, remember what a former US President (#40) said. The most terrifying thing to hear is I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you. Open to the possibility, but doubt it is economically possible to achieve with any degree of economy (would you pay $100-200 more?). If possible, name one other water resistant phone that lets you replace the battery easily.

Given that Google/Alphabet, Amazon and Microsoft had a horrible year on the stock market last year, and Apple not too much better, maybe longer life batteries will be on the way. Many others, including TSLA and DWAC, were down much more. A solid state Li Ion would be good (but likely more expensive). Multiple companies have been working on these for several years, with slow progress.
 
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i'm actually surprised that the EU hadn't come up with a resolution yet that all portable electronic devices are required to have EASILY replaceable batteries that won't require the user to do more than just move a slider to unlatch the battery, or remove 4 screws at worst without having to disassemble the whole unit in delicate ways
The EU are currently developing legislation which will do just that!
 
And the UK sees an increase of £30 to replace iPad batteries. So better get my old iPad Pro 10.5" battery replaced by the end of February since now I can still get it for £99 while from March onwards it will cost £129.
 
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