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Rubbish.

Gone, nearly forgotten about, poor effort... monitors and matte screens, routers, 17in laptops, reasonably priced 14in/17in laptops, mac mini, mac pro, MacOS, servers, constant improvements in software products, questionable and inconsistent design decisions, AppleTV OS, back-lit keyboards with AA batteries, etc.

Most effort seems to be in selling iPhones and providing media for consumption now.
 
OMG This is exactly what Steve despised: further dispersing the content landscape into a zillion mutually exclusive, single source content farms that force customers into a maze of different subscriptions and UX's.
Even worse than cableTV - that preserves news services and journalism
Soon, I will become a cable re-connecter...
This is why I never understood the cord cutting craze. So instead of paying one bill to Comcast or whoever you’re now paying Apple, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Hulu, Disney etc. and still in many cases not getting live news or sports. How is that better exactly?
 
I'd really wish Apple would spin-off a new company, say, Apple Studios or Apple Media Group or something, that would be a new shell for all their original media endeavors and the Apple Music service.

I feel like all these entertainment-related services are really diluting Apple's focus as a stellar hardware and software developer. Apple's starting to feel convoluted and schizophrenic.

I want Apple proper to get their act together and focus like a laser beam on getting their foundation hardware and services squared away. Too many distractions. :/

This new media side of Apple is also the stuff that tarnishes Apple a bit in my eyes. I've always considered the entertainment biz a bit shady/dirty. Partly why I feel Iovine and all these studio exec types are a bad representatives for Apple. They bring with them all the negative big-business baggage of the entertainment industry.
For sure Eddy Cue should lose iCloud (and any pro apps he might still oversee). But I doubt Craig Federighi, Dan Riccio or Johny Srouji are spending any time Apple’s content endeavors. I wouldn’t mind seeing it spun off and Eddy Cue sent to LA but Wall Street is obsessed with Apple becoming a services company with predictable recurring revenue streams so I can’t see the board ever spinning off this business.
 
This is why I never understood the cord cutting craze. So instead of paying one bill to Comcast or whoever you’re now paying Apple, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Hulu, Disney etc. and still in many cases not getting live news or sports. How is that better exactly?

It's not & if you subscribe to all of those services, you'll probably end up paying more.

Most people just share logins to make it financially viable.
 
I'd really wish Apple would spin-off a new company, say, Apple Studios or Apple Media Group or something, that would be a new shell for all their original media endeavors and the Apple Music service.

I feel like all these entertainment-related services are really diluting Apple's focus as a stellar hardware and software developer. Apple's starting to feel convoluted and schizophrenic.

I want Apple proper to get their act together and focus like a laser beam on getting their foundation hardware and services squared away. Too many distractions. :/

This new media side of Apple is also the stuff that tarnishes Apple a bit in my eyes. I've always considered the entertainment biz a bit shady/dirty. Partly why I feel Iovine and all these studio exec types are a bad representatives for Apple. They bring with them all the negative big-business baggage of the entertainment industry.

Incredibly well said! I saw the same thing in commercial radio 10-15 years ago and now radio is... dead!
 
This is why I never understood the cord cutting craze. So instead of paying one bill to Comcast or whoever you’re now paying Apple, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Hulu, Disney etc. and still in many cases not getting live news or sports. How is that better exactly?
Do you watch every channel and show you get through cable? I only get Netflix and OTA and I still have tons to watch.

Plenty of college basketball, NFL, and college football. I also get ESPN3 already included in my Internet only plan. For news I just record NBC Nightly News and PBS NewsHour. There’s also the free 24 hour network CBS News available everywhere online.
 
OMG This is exactly what Steve despised: further dispersing the content landscape into a zillion mutually exclusive, single source content farms that force customers into a maze of different subscriptions and UX's.
What Steve felt, thought, wanted was at a fixed point in time, before 2011.
It's 2018.
Different landscape.
You have no idea what he would of felt, thought, wanted at this point in time.
Pulling out the Steve card is no longer valid.
 
Do you watch every channel and show you get through cable? I only get Netflix and OTA and I still have tons to watch.

Plenty of college basketball, NFL, and college football. I also get ESPN3 already included in my Internet only plan. For news I just record NBC Nightly News and PBS NewsHour. There’s also the free 24 hour network CBS News available everywhere online.
No but I don’t care. I want one bill, local channels and additional sports coverage (which I get with DirecTV). I don’t want to deal with OTA or multiple $10-15 bills.
 
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No but I don’t care. I want one bill, local channels and additional sports coverage (which I get with DirecTV). I don’t want to deal with OTA or multiple $10-15 bills.
How much does DirecTV charge you? I bet going the DirecTV Now, Sling TV, YouTubeTV, or other OTT service would save you more money. The only big thing DirecTV has now is probably NFL Sunday Ticket. And even then I believe AT&T DirecTV is in discussions with the NFL to expand that portion to DirecTV Now.
 
Was a time I said stick to computers , now stick to iPhones and get them right. They are chasing TV shows while they cannot get Apple Music right .
Sometimes I think they are trying to do too much with Apple Music. I have had nothing but problems with iCloud Music Library.
 
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I'm just worried about their delivery:

"Come watch all the Apple Original TV shows.... by subscribing to Apple Music..." :p

Also... it pretty much requires buying an Apple TV to watch this content on a TV... since you can't watch it on any ol' smart TV, Roku box, etc.

That will limit its appeal too.

I think even my toaster has Netflix. :)


So true, and Apple TV so under delivers. I also find their remotes completely and utterly useless
 
How much does DirecTV charge you? I bet going the DirecTV Now, Sling TV, YouTubeTV, or other OTT service would save you more money. The only big thing DirecTV has now is probably NFL Sunday Ticket. And even then I believe AT&T DirecTV is in discussions with the NFL to expand that portion to DirecTV Now.
It’s combines with my AT&T bill. I actually get like $20 off my bill because I’m an AT&T customer.
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Sometimes I think they are trying to do too much with Apple Music. I have had nothing but problems with iCloud Music Library.
I don’t think iCloud music library sucks because Apple is doing to much, it sucks because Apple sucks when it comes to cloud services. Eddy Cue has no business overseeing iCloud. Tim Cook should poach someone from Amazon, Google or Microsoft to run Apple’s cloud business. Or buy Dropbox and let them run it.
 
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MacRumors is becoming Hollywood Reporter these days.

I wish Apple updated Macs as frequently as they work on unrelated TV projects and emoji.
 
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Wish they could stop with the original content and put more money towards patching iOS 9 and 10 against the two big security problems.
 
Wish they could stop with the original content and put more money towards patching iOS 9 and 10 against the two big security problems.
Again. When will people finally realize that Apple Engineers who works on iPhones, Macs, iOS, MacOS, etc.. doesn't have a part on making these TV Shows?
 
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When will people finally realize that Apple Engineers who works on iPhones, Macs, iOS, MacOS doesn't have a part on making these TV Shows?
When will people realise that without product focus and vision you go from leading the industry to being part of the pack.

This has nothing to do with engineers , engineers or developers need product vision! This is one of most silly replies i see on MR, it's not about engineering! It's where the company is focusing its roadmap on or lack of focus
 
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You guys don't understand companies if you think this endeavor is detracting from software and hardware development.

Any issues Apple has in those areas are NOT a resources problem. They CAN do both things without one impacting the other. There is an execution issue on some of the software issues, although I think they are somewhat overblown.
The problem isn't the availability of resources but the high level strategy.

Regardless of the size of the company, there is only one person at the top making these decisions (even if these decisions are filtered down and the results filtered up through myriad layers of management and public relations figureheads).

Apple used to make great computers for software development not because it had great technicians but because of Steve Job's focus on what they were doing. This started to slip when iPads and iPhones became the thing and, for a while, Apple phones were the undisputed leader of that market. Then came music distribution, headphones, shops, TV boxes, self driving cars, watches, and now home decor and sci-fi programs.

When this happens, the ability to build class leading products in any individual class ebbs away. Given the impossibility of devoting the time required to any of these specialisations, senior management must delegate strategic decisions and feign interest in detail.

The net result is that products eventually become commoditised, safe, built to a price, built to fit a market profile. Passion, vision and ambition (other than for profit) wither.
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Footnote: An interesting article on the BBC today. In a technology that Apple ought to own, the best you can say is that they get mentioned...
Amazon Alexa v Google Assistant - fight gets fierce
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630606
 
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