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Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA

Timo_Existencia said:
You don't care who's right, but you want Apple to simply make it work while the EU is specifically trying to make it not work?

Let's see...this will work in countries that aren't in the EU. So, Apple can make it work. Just not in the EU. The common denominator is: The EU.

The fault lies squarely on the EU.
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I blame EU expansion… they seen expansion slots and took them all. This is the real reason for a lack of expansion capability in the latest Mac Pro.

There is a negative correlation between EU expansion and Mac Pro Expansion options. The biggest blow was RAM expandability. Now they have issues with DMA. EU keep your hands off our direct memory access! Was it not enough that you took away our right to install more RAM? Now you want to take away all our access!
 
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AppliedMicro said:
Being unable to manage your Spotify subscription in-app doesn't create a better user experience.
Having developers submit every single streamed (rendered off-device) game from the App Store, as they used to require the game streaming companies, doesn't make for a better user experience.
Having to pay 30% commission on in-app purchases and making developers earn less doesn't create better experience for end users using their apps
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You’re so focused on a textbook example of customer experience you fail to see how the entirety of these regulation will be a detriment to the customer experience.
 
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The EU has never conquered the world before so I don’t know how that can happen again. In any case, the EU was in part molded and influenced by the USA.

There are trad blocs and countries doing a lot more to stifle Apple than the EU. But they seem to get a pass. And those countries are probably places you’d not willingly want to live 😂
 
DaveFlash said:
this is complete and utter bantha poodoo!

nothing in our dma says apple can't bring it to our markets in the way they've announced it at wwdc in fact I would say and hazzard a guess with them offering an external ai processor from the start, in this case OpenAI's ChatGPT, it is already in complete compliance with the spirit of the DMA. Add to that the fact they spent a long time going on about their private cloud compute and then I assume it's also in compliance of GDPR and even goes beyond what GDPR stipulates.

So, this is just Apple being spiteful for their other troubles with eu lawmakers, the spotify case and the epic thing....
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have you read DMA and understand it ?
i am sure you don't understand it unless you are a lawyer.
 
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In addition, the EU’s DMA is just the first of its kind, but many more markets will come up with similar laws shortly.
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That's the part of this being missed by all the shortsighted "GO APPLE!" takes here

Hopefully behind the scenes, while publicly whining, cooler heads are prevailing and figuring out what course to chart in the new waters of the future.

Resisting and fighting legislation in every jurisdiction is a losing strategy.
 
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shadowboi said:
Is this how they decided to deal with that $1.8b fine?

Considering that one could mirror iPhones for, like, ages using QuickTime, how does the new feature even relate to DMA?

They haven’t added anything substantially new anyway and AI chatbots are already installable from AppStore. Lack of iOS 18 “innovation” is not the thing to cry about for EU users
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then EU customers are not mssing anything so EU shouldn't be complaining about missing features ?
 
turbineseaplane said:
That's the part of this being missed by all the shortsighted "GO APPLE!" takes here

Hopefully behind the scenes, while publicly whining, cooler heads are prevailing and figuring out what course to chart in the new waters of the future.

Resisting and fighting legislation in every jurisdiction is a losing strategy.
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That’s exactly what’s happening here, but all the hot takes are that Apple is being petulant rather than actively working with regulators to find out what’s going on.

In fact, that’s exactly what the point of the thread was before everyone decided that Apple is just being petulant…by working to figure out if these features are compliant.

Weird that someone who’s posted so frequently in this thread has finally circled back to the *second paragraph* of the very first post.
 
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dbwie said:
This is Apple, perhaps in a subtle way attempting to get their customers to turn on the regulators in the EU. Ha ha. Or maybe they don’t want to be forced to create android mirroring on the Mac desktop.
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EU should pass a new law.
AirPlay should work with Windows, Android, Linux :)
and make AirPlay open source so that humanity can benefit
 
raghu8912 said:
then EU customers are not mssing anything so EU shouldn't be complaining about missing features ?
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Yeah, absolutely right.
Apple acting right now as if they invented a warp drive capable of making shuttles jump at lightspeed to Mars tomorrow and bragging like “🇪🇺 you are grounded! You won’t get anything new from updates, boo!”.

After all right now whole AI thing right now is just another big database on neural steroids. Europeans as everyone else can forge resumes with it, university papers etc. Having this stuff built inside Siri is convenient but totally not a dealbreaker
 
Amen to this..

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I think there is a lot of confusion amongst people over what the EU is, how it works and why it does what it does regarding Apple and a variety of other companies.

I feel many who have extremely strong opinions on the EU just don’t understand it.
 
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Timo_Existencia said:
You don't care who's right, but you want Apple to simply make it work while the EU is specifically trying to make it not work?

Let's see...this will work in countries that aren't in the EU. So, Apple can make it work. Just not in the EU. The common denominator is: The EU.

The fault lies squarely on the EU.
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Might be, don’t care as a customer. Make it work.
 
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surferfb said:
Having to give your credit card to third party developers you don’t trust to keep your data safe vs being able to pay Apple makes a crappy user experience
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Pure scare tactics, that Apple recently also likes to engage in. Online payments with credit cards is a solved problem, at least on this side of the the pond. I've been using credit cards for decades, and never had a single unauthorized charge. And I'm paying frequently for software ouside of the app store. No problems among close family members either.
 
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raghu8912 said:
EU should pass a new law.
AirPlay should work with Windows, Android, Linux :)
and make AirPlay open source so that humanity can benefit
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I don't think there will ever be a law mandating this, but the idea is not that bad. Apple has some nice protocols, which would be great if they were adopted more broadly by the industry. Instead, now Apple is forced to adopt RCS for messaging, and AirPlay support is mostly hit-and-miss, because most people in the world use Android.
 
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