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Is he deliberately trying to sabotage the products? Or has he just been told to pick up the toys and play with them - with no prior time to use them?

He only speaks of two USB ports, a Mini DisplayPort, and an Ethernet on the MacBook. Did he fail to mention it has a MagSafe power connection, and that it is a Gigabit Ethernet? I thought everyone familiar with MacBooks knew that Firewire was gone, so why mention that again?

The use of that Magic Mouse shows he doesn't use one regularly or he hasn't used this one enough to be reviewing it.

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And he don't even know the new keyboard uses 2 batteries instead of 3 and not 1 instead of 2. He might be saving his knowledge for windows 7... :confused:
 
Did he fail to mention it has a MagSafe power connection, and that it is a Gigabit Ethernet? I thought everyone familiar with MacBooks knew that Firewire was gone, so why mention that again?

Power and network connections are hardly worth mentioning. However, two USB ports for a $1,000 machine is.

The use of that Magic Mouse shows he doesn't use one regularly or he hasn't used this one enough to be reviewing it.

Regularly use something that came out TODAY? Come on, its perfectly legitimate to review based off first impressions.
 
Umm.

Well I was planning on finally upgrading to SL in the next week or two, so I have a bit of a shopping list:

SL box set
magic mouse (hate the name)
remote (if it does a better job controlling the iPhone)
ipod nano for the wife
 
OK tell me it got tactile feedback or some sort of 'click mechanism'. A mouse is not a mouse without the clicking sound.
 
This mouse is beautiful, but unfortunately for Apple, they also need to be ergonomic also - I haven't held this particular mouse yet, but I have held one that's got a somewhat similar shape - a Kensington slimline mouse. It's too low and there's nothing to really grab onto.

I know what you mean about being too low with nothing to grab onto.
But enough about your granny's buttox.
(I'm kidding!) :D
I owned one of those Kensington mice and I gave it away because of the ergonomics. Personally I'm a big fan of the symmetrical Logitech mice with just two buttons and a scroll wheel.

But I will definitely give this new Magic Mouse a fair shake and test drive it at an Apple Store before forming an opinion.
 
I will probably buy it if I can activate Expose, Spaces, and/or Expose (Desktop) from it with gestures like I can do by clicking buttons on my Apple Mouse.
Does anyone know if it supports this? I hope they have drivers for Windows too!
 
The Mighty Mouse had 4 buttons. Does this now only have 2?

Of course, three of those Mighty Mouse buttons were a pain in the sit-upon that I ALWAYS turned off. The Mac OS only needs one button, two if you're too lazy to move to the top of the screen to acces the menu bar (which is a bit understandable on a 27" or 30" screen). :)
 
The Mac OS only needs one button, two if you're too lazy to move to the top of the screen to acces the menu bar (which is a bit understandable on a 27" or 30" screen). :)

What about all the 3d and video post production software out there that need three buttons? You do realize that Win needs the right click no more then Mac which = both of them need it badly...
 
There are two main ways to hold and use a mouse:

1. Rest your whole hand and palm on the mouse and move the mouse in sync with your hand.
2. Hold the mouse by its sides, leaving a space between your palm and the mouse. That way you can do precise movements by moving the mouse with your fingers, only moving your wrist/arms for wider movements.

Apple mice are made to be used with technique #2. People that try to rest their whole hand on the mouse will find Apple mice to be too small and uncomfortable, but that's not how it's supposed to be held.

People that are used to technique #1 will prefer relatively big mice that "fits" the shape of their hand perfectly. These folks will look at either the Mighty Mouse or the Magic Mouse, without trying it and conclude that it's not "ergonomic" because it doesn't have this particular hand-fitting shape they're looking for.

I'm not an ergonomic expert, but I would venture to say that technique #2 doesn't cause as much RSI as it puts less strain on the wrist, and that the big hand-fitting mice are preventing you from using only your fingers to move the mouse for precise movements since your hand is "stuck" around the mouse, thus forcing you to use your wrists to make any movement.

Personally, I love the shape of the Mighty Mouse, have no problems with right-clicking and I absolutely adore the little trackball. I like the fact that I can click with all my fingers to register a left-click. I tried many other mice and to me the big scroll-wheels don't cut it at all, even the one with ball-bearings.

That being said the big problem with the trackball is the way it would get dirty and stop working. It's extremely annoying to have to clean it every once in a while. Also, I disabled the side buttons since I was always activating them by accident.

The Magic Mouse is the mice that I waited for, I don't care much for the gestures, but I'm pretty sure that the scrolling will be close to what the track ball provided and even better, without the cleaning problem.

BUT... Where is the middle click? I use it all the time in Safari to open links in new tabs. It's really a deal-breaker to me even though I would love to get a Magic Mouse :(
 
future??

and what about future of this little piece of apple pie. definetly hope that Magic Mouse (sry but this name makes me funny:D) can recognize more than 2 fingers, so in future there could be possibility of 3 fingers exposé function. In other case I'm not very sure about advantage agains my MBP trackpad.

But definitely buying it as soon as possible, because of technology :D
 
I'm sure there will be an update for a 3 finger Expose gesture. Maybe swipe up for Ex and Swipe down for desktop.
 
multi touch mouse

I use the link Apple Introduces Magic Mouse - A Multi-Touch Mouse. I like This mouse is beautiful, I am surprised that this mouse is lacking the other nice features like "pinch open close" and four finger expose.
 
There are two main ways to hold and use a mouse:

1. Rest your whole hand and palm on the mouse and move the mouse in sync with your hand.
2. Hold the mouse by its sides, leaving a space between your palm and the mouse. That way you can do precise movements by moving the mouse with your fingers, only moving your wrist/arms for wider movements.

Apple mice are made to be used with technique #2. People that try to rest their whole hand on the mouse will find Apple mice to be too small and uncomfortable, but that's not how it's supposed to be held.

People that are used to technique #1 will prefer relatively big mice that "fits" the shape of their hand perfectly. These folks will look at either the Mighty Mouse or the Magic Mouse, without trying it and conclude that it's not "ergonomic" because it doesn't have this particular hand-fitting shape they're looking for.

I'm not an ergonomic expert, but I would venture to say that technique #2 doesn't cause as much RSI as it puts less strain on the wrist, and that the big hand-fitting mice are preventing you from using only your fingers to move the mouse for precise movements since your hand is "stuck" around the mouse, thus forcing you to use your wrists to make any movement.

Personally, I love the shape of the Mighty Mouse, have no problems with right-clicking and I absolutely adore the little trackball. I like the fact that I can click with all my fingers to register a left-click. I tried many other mice and to me the big scroll-wheels don't cut it at all, even the one with ball-bearings.(

Actually gripping while clicking/swiping is very harmful for the small muscles and tendons in the hand. People tend to focus on the compression of the carpal tunnel when they talk about RSIs, but there are other serious problems that occur as a result of mouse use, such as painful tendonitis. But this mouse has all RSIs covered in that it is flat rather than vertical, has an elevated touchpad surface which will tempt people to rest their wrists on the table and thereby flex it to reach the top surface, encourages (tense) gripping to move, is not shaped according to the hands anatomy etc. It's surprisingly poor in terms of ergonomics -- that's not just an opinion, it's a fact. Ask any ergonomic specialist and they will concur. Sadly, Apple obviously didn't have any ergonomic experts on their team, or the beauty designers were given veto powers during the design phase.

This could have been a great mouse, but now it's just another mediocre Apple mouse. With something as important to our health and well-being as a computer input device, you can't allow form to take precedent over function and ergonomics.


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I can't wait to try this out, my scroll wheel on my might mouse always has problems and would love to get rid of it!
 
Eh, I guess I really cannot complain that it is not ergonomical since it has to be designed to allow for multi touch. But for a mouse it just seems painful to use. I got a mighty mouse for free so I have been trying to fall in love with that. But the way it sits in my hand it just makes for a painful experience. I don't really mind the trackball but I will be moving back to my microsoft bluetooth mouse. If I wanted multitouch I would rather get this to accompany my Wacom Tablet: Wacom Bamboo Multitouch. (They are the same price too). I really wish I waited a few months and purchased the new Bamboo Pen & Touch, but eh.

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I'm wondering if you are using it already because I kinda regret getting it. It's nice that it has multitouch and all but the cursor movement and multitouch isn't very smooth at all. I was really hoping Apple would make a standalone touchpad :(
 
Considering this is now the standard mouse that ships with iMacs by default, I hope they're going to sort out BootCamp drivers soon, or you're going to have new iMac owners having to buy a second mouse for whenever they want to use Windows.

And why is it that in this thread anyone who criticises the Magic Mouse gets a big "Have you tried it yet? Thought not. Shut up.", whereas anyone who praises it doesn't get the same response?
 
You guys don't use rechargeable batteries for your peripherals? :confused:

Thats....shortsighted.

Wait, you use a limited external power supply that needs maintenance rather than just taking power from the computer? :confused:

That's also....shortsighted
 
I'll pass on this, not what I expected.
It shouldn't be that difficult to extract the flat glass multitouch trackpad concept from a macbook and embed it in a standalone nice aluminium case, with bluetooth AND usb connector (so you can use either one or the other connection).
When the usb cable is connected, bluetooth goes off.
 
Personally, I love the shape of the Mighty Mouse, have no problems with right-clicking and I absolutely adore the little trackball. I like the fact that I can click with all my fingers to register a left-click. I tried many other mice and to me the big scroll-wheels don't cut it at all, even the one with ball-bearings.

You "adore" the trackball. Really?
 
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