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the one that has apple as the most valuable company in the word. maybe?

yeah...i guess most people expect a perfectly straight increasing linear line with a stock, no way a company could have its shareholders selling some shares to cash in!
 
The price was expected as 249, and Apple announced that the official price is 329 today. At this price, iPad Mini is not competitive in the market, and not attractive for current iPad user. Since I have iPad 2, I am not going to get it. I don't see the reason for getting one.
Maybe for you. I expected iPad mini to start at $399. For me, it's lower than expected.
 
Well, I guess $330 for a 1024x768 tablet make sense... on an a world where a 13" laptop with a $1700 starting price makes sense. I'm not sure what planet that is, but I'm sure it must be a nice place.

On a related note, apple stock is currently trading down 2.5% today. At least shareholders live on planet Earth.

You must not actually trade stocks. If that was an indication of your trading knowledge, I imagine that you would loose money quickly based on similar assumptions about a stock PERFORMING LIKE NORMAL. 2.5% down or up is a a pretty average threshold for AAPL.

I love how everyone quotes stock prices like they offer some wisdom into the future of a company. Any broker or day trader will tell you they are indirectly linked. The point is, you can not look at a stock price (generally) and say the public has spoken. Especially not at a ~2% scale. On a day with no news about APPL, hard to believe, it can fluctuate just as much based on the ACTUAL day trading. Its just a thin argument. (Oh look, its only down 1.61 at this moment, the people must not live on Earth any longer)

One more thing, stop oversimplifying, its not a 13" Notebook. You may lack the knowledge to see it for what it is but please do yourself the courtesy to brush up on the price of manufacturing hi-ppi displays, SSDs, and custom hardware machining. Its not as if apple doesn't have lower-priced options. And its not as if we who buy Apple products think that we are getting a good bargain. I know I pay a premium. I am poor and I still don't give a $#!t. It preforms for my professional work, it lasts a long time, and it looks nice. I'll pay extra, it means that much to me. It doesn't to you, so GTFO.
 
All you whiners do realize that if you take the same resolution and shrink the display you increase the pixels per inch don't you? I guess you all bought into the "retina" like it is some magic technology where fairies fart out retina dust that makes everything look great.

iPad 2 = 132 ppi
iPad mini = 163 ppi
iPad 3 and 4 = 264 ppi

So, it's not quite retina, but it's better than an iPad 2 because the screen is smaller. Some people just can't be pleased.
 
Ipad Mini / Google Nexus 7

Model 16GB Wifi / 16GB Wifi

Price £269 / £199

Resolution 1024X768 / 1200X800

PPI 163 / 216

Processor A5 Dual Core / Tegra 3 Quad core


Utterly dissapointed with Apple.
 
Why? So do you hold your iPhone right up to your face? Strap your wristwatch to your eyeball?

When you read emails on your iPhone, you hold it closer to your eyes compared to reading an email on your iPad or laptop. That's why I find retina displays more important on smaller devices.

Have you ever played a game on your iPhone and noticed how close you hold it to your eyes? Retina makes a huge difference, but on my 15" laptop I couldn't care less if it has Retina or not.
 
Least it wasn't 8GB's I guess. Still 249 or if they had to have a premium, $279 would have looked better. Retina mini in April is guaranteed for the most part.
 
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What is the point of the iPad Mini? What need does it fill that isn't already met by the iPad and iPhone (or iPod touch)?
 
Why is apple so greedy. $329 price tag for a small tablet with no retina display and no huge advantages over comparing models!? They introduced the iPad mini to compete with mini android tablets starting at $229 ?! Good luck with that....

This is the big problem I am having with the presentation today. It was one of the worst in regards to marketting i have seen out of Apple in a long time.

The way they handled the ipad mini portion was actually quite bad. If Anything they did more to sell Nexus 7's than iPad mini.

If you have to speak for 10 minutes on why you're better than your competitors product, by actually attacking your competitors product and showing off the minute differences, You have a problem.

If you have to speak for 10 minutes why you believe your product justifiably warrants the $100 premium price increase, That is bad.

The take away on this is that what the ipad mini delivers in Apples own eye doesn't stand on it's own above and beyond the competition. They actually had to "cut the heads off others to make them seem taller".

If the ipad mini can't sell itself at it's current price point in comparison to it's competition, than it's priced too high.

we'll see tomorrow.
But like current trend the last few days and weeks. Apple stock has taken a hit. Seems like investors haven't been overly impressed with Apple the last week or two.
 
Lot's of interesting comments and comparisons...

I'm sure like many products before, the iPad mini will be a huge success even though I would have liked to have seen the price more like $249 to start.
 
Love all the "priced too high" comments. Especially since it's priced perfectly between the new iPod touch and the iPad 2 - Same specs as both, with a screen sized in the middle.

Did all of you just crawl out from under some rock? When has Apple made you happy with pricing? They may be too expensive for YOU, but as it's already been proven with the regular sized iPad, they will sell millions of them and push others' to the back of the shelves.
 
DOESN'T need retina

Ok lets see
No retina
no Siri
329$ Hmmmmm
Microcenter iPad 2 349$

It actually does have Siri, says so on the site. And the only reason is doesn't have retina is because it would have required bigger processor and bigger battery, all of which would have forced them to make it bigger. This is THINNER than an iPhone 5. There are always tradeoffs. I'll take the smaller size and amazing battery, thanks. And I think most will.
 
Pixel density is something to consider. 1024x768 (163 ppi) on a 7.9" display will look better/sharper than the iPad 2.
 
Why? What if we like Apple's Kool-Aid? What's wrong with sheep? Is the iPad Mini not amazing? What's not amazing about it? What would satisfy your definition of amazing?

It's worlds better than most computers from 10 years ago (probably even 6 years ago) and it fits into a pocket - all for $330 (plus tax). How is that not amazing? You could benefit from a little perspective. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you don't think it's amazing, then don't buy it. If you don't see the point of the iPad Mini, don't buy it. Meanwhile, it'll sell like crazy.

Can I bash your head with a hammer for comparing a 2012 technology to a decade technology. The iPhones are amazing, the new iMac is amazing, the first iPad is amazing, even the iPad 2 and 3 are amazing. The iPad mini doesn't offer something new. No retina, A5 chip, crappy resolution and horrible prize. Apple released this turd just to fill a void.
 
Ugly iPhone 5; pricey inferior iPad mini, iPad 4th only 6 months after "the new Ipad;" badmouthing other tablets specifically and directly on stage; stale self-promotional presentations...

Apple is losing a lot of fans. I am still firmly one of them, but I am fairly disappointed in 2012. The only product in 2012 I really thought was a major leap forward and I felt compelled to buy was MacBook Pro with Retina display.

Most importantly, they are now a giant corporation and people do not like when a giant corporation behaves arrogantly. Unless they come up with a new product to revolutionize another aspect of peoples lives, this incremental progress will catch up with them quickly.

There was no bad mouthing of the competition. Just a statement of fact. 29% more screen real-estate in portrait, 67% in landscape. FACT. Speed metrics, FACT but hey you paid $130 less for it, so don't feel bad. You got what you paid for.
 
so I was going to upgrade from my iPad 2... all I'm getting is a 7.9" iPad 2 with Bluetooth 4.0 and the lightning connector, not really much especially considering how little bluetooth is used!!
 
$329 is £206...

The iPad Mini - Starting at £269 in the UK!

Im not enjoying the £60 markup at all.

Just don't forget that the UK price includes VAT at 20 Percent that is Sterling 40. US prices are always quoted without Tax.

Maybe a Sterling 20 difference is not that bad.
 
Welcome to Apple's unique currency conversion rate! Chosen with carefully with Apple's wallet in mind.

Did you take into I account that uk prices are with vat included, and you have to add sales tax to the US prices?
It's still a difference I know, but people often seem to forget this
 
not a shrunken iPad 2

You have misunderstood me. I don't complain about Apple's upgrade cycle. I don't mind whether my product is outdated after a month, although I understand the disappointment. What I do mind is that the iPad Mini is not state of the art when it comes to the display. It is essentially an iPad with iPad 2 technology. Apple goes great lengths to release new products with a Retina display, even on laptops. But it's too good for a smaller iPad? I predict that the next iPad Mini will have such a display. The only question will be when it is released. After today, this could already be in spring.


Wrong. IPad 2 didn't use in cell technology like this is. IPad 2 wasn't as thin as this is -- thinner than iPhone 5 -- and iPad 2 also didn't have as good cameras. So everyone who is saying this is the iPad 2 shrunken down is wrong. In cell technology is huge because it will produce better color reproduction and richer blacks.
 
Can I bash your head with a hammer for comparing a 2012 technology to a decade technology. The iPhones are amazing, the new iMac is amazing, the first iPad is amazing, even the iPad 2 and 3 are amazing. The iPad mini doesn't offer something new. No retina, A5 chip, crappy resolution and horrible prize. Apple released this turd just to fill a void.

Yet is is better than the competition.
 
Kindle Fire HD bombed in reviews. And I question weather Apple cares as much as a company about market share relative to 1) Profits $$$$ and 2) Quality products.

With their eco-system, market share = profits $$$$. And they haven't cared about quality in ages. Look at the build of the iPhone 5, feels like the cheap toy that it is. rMBP's and now iMacs that are so underpowered they're bad jokes. Apple = bargain basement quality and designer label prices. And at this rate in a year that label will be a warning not to buyi.
 
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