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Euge

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Aug 2, 2006
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LOL, so you can't make a case for the iphone unless you follow what Apple says? Or you just can't say its MFI certified? Why can't anyone just make a case the way they want and say its for a iPhone #. This seems retarded to me. That's fine if they want to slap a label on that says tested up to 1 meter.. but telling case makers you can't put "made for iphone 6" on the box unless it complies is just stupid.

You can't say something is MFi certified unless it meets Apple's standards. Thus the use of the word "certified." Vendors pay a license fee to use the term. That way when you buy something that is MFi certified you know it meets certain standards.

Otherwise you can say anything you want, like "made for iPhone 6" or "compatible with iPhone 6." These terms aren't licensed.
 

petsounds

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Jun 30, 2007
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The best cases I've had were the rubber cases that incase used to make. Rubber does a much better job of distributing impact than those hard cases which everyone makes now. I dropped my 4s with rubber case over a dozen times on concrete and other hard surfaces, without even a scratch. I can't even get a rubber case now without looking like I'm ready to hike in the Amazon.
 

themorb

macrumors newbie
Dec 11, 2014
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How about a case that doesn't let the phone bend?

Seriously. My 6 has an Apple silicone case "clone" ($10 from mall kiosk) and it bent in my front jeans pocket. I can just see in the future "sorry, you were not using an approved MFi case."

As it is, Apple is sending me a replacement so I am happy about that.
 

threesixty360

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May 2, 2007
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If you want to sell cases in their store or through a major retailer I can imagine it helps to be certified. That's a big enough reason for many case producers I expect.
 

kaielement

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Dec 16, 2010
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The way iPhone owners express righteous indignation after dropping their phones and shattering their screens cracks me up. "It's all APPLE's fault!!" Sorry folks, anything made of glass has the possibility of shattering when dropped, so let's not fault them for trying to help protect against accidents by asking for sturdier cases.

Incidentally, this isn't an Apple-only complaint as some would like to believe. I was in an AT&T store waiting to get a glass screen protector installed and there was a guy with a Galaxy S5 absolutely losing his mind. His phone looked like someone took a ballpene hammer to it with big chunks of glass missing. He was yelling at the manager claiming that he knocked it off his 3 foot nightstand onto a shag carpet and it just "exploded".

No one wants to take personal responsibility anymore.

You just summed up my life right there. Or my life as it is at work. I work for a company that sells cell phones and we see so many broken screens and not just iPhones. We see all makes and models. Really at the end of the day people need to take responsibility for their actions. This is great that apple is trying to do their part. How to get the consumers on board.

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Agreed. They should use glass that doesn't break like every other smartphone maker.

It's people like you who make me mad. I see tons of other manufacturers with tons of cracked screens. As I stated before I sell cell phones and see all kinds of broken screens NOT JUST APPLE. Even my Samsung reps s5 had a cracked screen after he dropped it in he parking lot. So please until some company makes a phone that can never get damaged please stop making things up.
 

dannyyankou

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Mar 2, 2012
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I've dropped my 5s dozens of times without a case, lots of times face down. Just some scuffs on the edges and a small scratch that isn't even noticeable when the screen is lit up.
 
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ttss6

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Mar 28, 2014
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I dropped my 6+ in an Apple leather case from the height of my car seat and due to the lack of protection on the bottom I now have a ding between two of the speaker holes
 

69Mustang

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Jan 7, 2014
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In between a rock and a hard place
Not sure how many case manufacturers case about the MFi program (I could be dead wrong) but given that a non-battery case has little need to have that accreditation for many consumers to buy it, why adhere to strict guidelines like this.

Clearly Apple wants to have as much control if they are allowing their branding. Makes sense. Esp since broken screens and bent phones are something the genius desk has to deal with.

I do wonder if in the future, AppleCare will adjust their policy to only be inclusive of accredited cases, etc for claims.

Seems to me, this is more marketing than anything else. As you stated, cases don't need MFi certification. More importantly, as far as I know, the certification doesn't offer any indemnification to consumers. Outside of the ability to put MFi on packaging, the benefits to consumers seem minimal at best. MFi doesn't offer any guarantees that damage won't occur from less than a meter. If it does in the future, then I can see a benefit. Until then MFi on a case is just another marketing bullet point. As is, if someone is worried about damage there are numerous cases available, without MFi certification, that protect phones from greater distances than one meter.
 

mdelvecchio

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Sep 3, 2010
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Maybe they should make more robust phones.

phones arent meant to be dropped onto pavement.

maybe they should make less accident prone customers?

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I don't get it...how can apple force a third party company to ensure their product protects a device from accidental damage? Will the company be banned from making cases for their products?

youre reading it wrong.

all apple is doing is specifying design requirements in order to obtain a MFI case badge. there is no liability from anyone.
 

sailmac

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For those cases that do get certified, I'm glad to know about the requirement to use fewer toxics. Protecting the device is important, yes, but protecting people and the environment is important, too. Small step, but a step in the right direction.
 

mdelvecchio

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Sep 3, 2010
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LOL, so you can't make a case for the iphone unless you follow what Apple says? Or you just can't say its MFI certified? Why can't anyone just make a case the way they want and say its for a iPhone #. This seems retarded to me.

youre reading it wrong, too. nobody is preventing anyone from making a case. but if you want the official MFI badge, then they must follow the spec.
 

Rychiar

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May 16, 2006
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i love how everyone talking about break free drops here is talking about iPhone 4s and 5s. My iPhone 5 was dropped at the gym like 5 times and never a mark on it. it's a small light phone with a screen that doesn't go to the very edge... the iPhone 6 plus on the other hand is a huge heavy phone with a rounded edge glass that is right to the edge and makes direct contact on drops. one drop on a gym machine killed mine a month after i bought it... and no case without a bottom lip would have saved that:rolleyes:
 

HenryDJP

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Nov 25, 2012
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I don't get it...how can apple force a third party company to ensure their product protects a device from accidental damage? Will the company be banned from making cases for their products?

They can force the company if the product carries the "Made for iPhone" label. Every other company they have no stronghold I believe.
 

mtbdudex

macrumors 68020
Aug 28, 2007
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I hate iPhone cases, they are overpriced so much, a huge profit margin for all makers.

I've gone totally "naked" with my iPhone5s for 1 year now, so has my wife.

It's simple, just know where you are, and pay attention to your surroundings.

My iPhone 4 had a case for 5 months, hated it and went "naked" with that, no issues either.

The cases are meaningless if the glass happens to hit a protruding stone/corner/anything on the way down.

Who else here goes "naked", to h#ll with giving my hard earned $$ to the makers of cases.
 

HenryDJP

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LOL, so you can't make a case for the iphone unless you follow what Apple says? Or you just can't say its MFI certified? Why can't anyone just make a case the way they want and say its for a iPhone #. This seems retarded to me. That's fine if they want to slap a label on that says tested up to 1 meter.. but telling case makers you can't put "made for iphone 6" on the box unless it complies is just stupid. Not to mention I hate cases that have a ridge around the entire phone, it collects so much dust when you put it in and take it out of your pocket, I like having the top and bottom, or at least one free and clear so I can easily wipe the dust off.. Apple you are really going to far with this.. I didn't know it was April 1st today.

I hope you realize how ridiculous your post sounds. Utterly ridiculous. Although Apple could certainly just make more impact resistant phones they are getting the 3rd party case makers to make a stronger case. Why in the world you even argue this? :rolleyes:
 

LostMyiPhone

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Dec 19, 2012
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LOL @ cases

I stopped using a case on my iPhone 5 and I don't intend to use one again on a regular basis. I have a case that I put on when I know I'll be somewhere more likely to drop/break my phone (honestly, I use it more to add bulk and increase grip when I'm on the trail) but otherwise, no case at all. Why? Because I've seen too many broken phones IN CASES and heard stories about many many more.

In turn, I've also dropped my caseless phone (iPhone 5) several times and while it didn't escape unscathed, it also didn't shatter the screen either. The most notable was from about shoulder height, onto concrete, in a forward (think tumbling across concrete) motion. I got a fingernail-clipping size chip on the corner of the screen and continued to use the phone for many more months after.

What am I getting at? Well, it really seems that, even with moderate precautions taken, you're still vulnerable to breakage in some way. Sure, a caseless phone will suffer worse cosmetic damage than one with a case -- but if the expectation is to help mitigate damage that would render the phone useless (let's just say "break the screen"), I think many cases out there are not up to the task as much as we think they are or should be. Further, the more protective ones are usually more bulky, and not every case has been tested for every scenario (obviously) so you could very well come across a scenario not considered by the case designers.

I'm not sure how Apple will go about testing or enforcing these new MFi policies regarding cases because every drop story I hear has a very different situation and circumstance. Surely they will just set some more detailed criteria and go with that -- but as someone who has gone from being uber-anal about my iphone to not even putting in in a case, I would say try it. You might like it.
 

malexandria

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Mar 25, 2009
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Need to Fix Headphone Jack!

What's with cases these days requiring some stupid dongle in order to use your headphones? Not only is it inconvenient to have to carry around a dumb extender but it also ends up breaking the remote control functions on the headphones. Every case that I tried for the iPhone 5 had this issue and now the iPhone 6 (unless it's an open bottom).
 
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