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Apple Introduces “Next Generation MacBook Pro” with 15.4″ Retina Display, Starts at $2199
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"Will the 2880x1880 provide the same "physical" work space of the current 15" MBP without the hi-res screen, or is there an option to tailor it to how you want it, like rumours suggested?"
Doubtfull. All the OS UI elements will be designed at 2X size for retina display. Otherwise if they stayed at current resolution everything would be super tiny. I continue to be underwhelmed.
Doubtfull. All the OS UI elements will be designed at 2X size for retina display. Otherwise if they stayed at current resolution everything would be super tiny. I continue to be underwhelmed.
What a joke this show. At the end to use it commercially, it will be >$3000.-in the US, which is useless to begin with. An ultimate gadget for poseurs. At starbucks. However it may be to early to deduct a new 13 at this point, and this may repair things a bit.....then the pathetic "pass...something"...hey geeks invent something for the already isolated american society to interact person to person a bit more rather than now automating a fart. Where is the Mac pro? Tim, tack your shirt like you do when visiting Chinese assembly workers at Foxconn.
The conference just started. iMacs and Mac Pro's probably will get updated during the week together with Mini's.
Oh god i was waiting all time for retina display Macbook pro but 2199 
!!!! that is tooooooo much .
Going to settle with 1199 model with good external display and connect through HDMI
!!!! that is tooooooo much .Going to settle with 1199 model with good external display and connect through HDMI
Have they mentioned anything else about how the resolution will work?
Will the 2880x1880 provide the same "physical" work space of the current 15" MBP without the h-res screen, or is there an option to tailor it to how you want it, like rumours suggested?
I don't want a 2880x1880 display if it's just a crisper version of the current low-end displays... I'd rather just buy the 1680x1050 hi-res version and have more physical space to work with.
EDIT: they better keep the 1680x1050 option on the 15 inch otherwise, I'm gone. I won't spend £2400 for a laptop, ever.
It's going to work the same way it technically works on the iPad. UI elements are pixel doubled. Photo and video assets are rendered doubled unless they are told to render at 50%, although on the desktop this will probably be a bit "smarter". You get the real estate where you need it, but not at the cost of usability.
That's what actually happens on an iPad. A 200x200 image shows up in 400x400 pixel space unless you tell it to render at 50%.
On the desktop you have the luxury of just "zooming out". If you are in a browser for example, you can just zoom out. If you do that right now, you'll notice that it becomes unreadable pretty fast. But on a higher DPI display you can zoom out further and still have everything be legible.
So it's like a Macbook Air when it comes to user upgradability? I'm definitely out on that alone, then.
Hopefully they keep the 1680x1050 option for the "normal" 15"... I'm looking on their site at the moment, and the tech specs suggest it's staying, so that's good news... maybe the price will be bumped down a tad for the 1680x1050 resolution upgrade now they have better available?
Hahaha - as if... who am I kidding!
£1799 or £2299
I know right! I almost though the £2299 was for a 17incher! The lower 15" seems 'ok' prices, though the storage isn't that great.
That's funny. Haven't people been crowing about how OSX supports high-dpi displays for years now and is already scalable.
The MBP is irrelevantly thinner, but now does "sports":
- *no* ethernet port
- *no* optical drive
- similar battery life
- *no* 17" model
- *no* new look
- *no* microphone input
- *no* way to upgrade RAM
- and finally, way way more expensive (*starting* at $2200 to $2800)
... and that's just from the top of my head.
The MBP is a MacBookAirPro (which is evident by the fact that Apple still sells the "old" MPB basically under the same label)
Fine, but actually the older MBP with the flash storage options (to 512GB) and a retina display would have been considerably better.
Now one can choose to see this as progress, but then one needs to step out. This is regress.
I'll pass.
- *no* ethernet port
- *no* optical drive
- similar battery life
- *no* 17" model
- *no* new look
- *no* microphone input
- *no* way to upgrade RAM
- and finally, way way more expensive (*starting* at $2200 to $2800)
... and that's just from the top of my head.
The MBP is a MacBookAirPro (which is evident by the fact that Apple still sells the "old" MPB basically under the same label)
Fine, but actually the older MBP with the flash storage options (to 512GB) and a retina display would have been considerably better.
Now one can choose to see this as progress, but then one needs to step out. This is regress.
I'll pass.
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Lol, yeah. My monitor is 2560x1600, my GTX580 can still run almost everything max, full res, 60fps, but I can imagine the combo of mobile GPU and thin form factor will really struggle at full resolution. Awesome laptop though, anyone buying it mainly for cutting edge games is a numpty anyway
This sucks!!
Hardly anyone was really expecting an iPhone 5 announcement. I hope you'll treat this as a "teachable moment."
That's funny. Haven't people been crowing about how OSX supports high-dpi displays for years now and is already scalable.
The special build will probably include high res artwork for all apps, which isn't necessary on other builds to take up extra space.
Yay!
I saw this as well when browsing the store.
Unless that is an error, it sounds like there will be an updated Mac Pro. I wonder if it will retain the same look or be given a facelift?
I saw this as well when browsing the store.
Unless that is an error, it sounds like there will be an updated Mac Pro. I wonder if it will retain the same look or be given a facelift?
I really think the price is a little high on the macbook pro hd, the only thing that really draws me to it other then the mac pro is an HDMI output I wish they added that to the macbook pro line up.
Can you still buy a normal 15" macbook pro in store?The MBP is irrelevantly thinner, but now does not have:
- ethernet port
- optical drive
- improved battery life
- 17" model
- a new look
... and that's just from the top of my head.
The MBP is a MacBookAirPro.
Fine, but actually the older MBP with the flash storage options (to 512GB) and a retina display would have been considerably better.
Now one can choose to see this as progress, but then one needs to step out. This is regress.
I'll pass.
At least they updated the specs of the current MBP. For the same price as the base Retina model you get more ports, more storage and faster CPU and GPU.