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And if you think Kaspersky will offer their consulting services for free, you're sorely mistaken.

I dunno. Him shooting his mouth off like that makes me think this relationship is much less than he's making it out to be. Apple gets pretty steamed over this kind of thing.
 
"Hi I'm a PC"

"Hi I'm a Mac"

I wish Microsoft would do an Advertisment clowning those days in light of all the new press.

Apple is about 20 years behind Microsoft regarding security

It would have zero effect. It's all about the iPad now ... :)
 
It would have zero effect. It's all about the iPad now ... :)

Most people I know who purchased an iPad have found themselves using it less after 6 months and returning to a PC for their needs. Trying to use an iPad for Office and professional activities is a frustrating experiance.
Most people like having a central location to store their files.
You may like your iPad but when it comes time for something other than Angry birds or web surfing, you too will want a PC. (Macs are PCs too)

Also, how can you say that 90% of the world who uses PCs wouldnt be influanced by that kind Of a jab towards the snotty Apple empire ?

It's just so ironic. It's hilarious.
 
Thank god it wasn't true. Kaspersky has shown they are inept, with their removal tool that was worse than the malware and its website that falsely detected java installed.
 
So what would it take for you to think that Kaspersky came to help Apple for money? A formal demand from Kaspersky that they be allowed through the pearly gates? Of course Apple INVITED them, why the hell would it be the other way around?

And if you think Kaspersky will offer their consulting services for free, you're sorely mistaken.


or...


Update: Kaspersky Lab has provided clarification to Engadget, claiming that Grebennikov's comments were taken out of context and that Apple has not invited Kaspersky to perform any security investigations.

Article Link: Apple Invites Kaspersky Lab to Consult on OS X Security Issues [Updated: No]


Employees at Apple must just LTFAO when they read about $#!% like this.
 
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. OSX has most, if not all, of the same security features present in Windows 7. The biggest difference between the two is that MS responds to potential threats far, FAR quicker than Apple tends to.

Repeat after me, geniuses: "Updated: NO".

I was right - Apple would not bother to consult Russian criminals for its own security needs. Now you can move on with your Windows AV installs. :rolleyes:
 
Repeat after me, geniuses: "Updated: NO".

Right, OSX has had ASLR since 2001, right? Nope! There was an incomplete implementation in Leopard, which was brought up to modern standards in Lion.

So repeat after me, genius: "Updated: YES".

edit: nevermind. I see where the "Updated: NO" came from. I figured you were saying that OSX has always had the same security.

...which begs the question, how does the update work in reply to my quote above?

I was right - Apple would not bother to consult Russian criminals for its own security needs. Now you can move on with your Windows AV installs. :rolleyes:

You're really reaching.
 
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So what would it take for you to think that Kaspersky came to help Apple for money? A formal demand from Kaspersky that they be allowed through the pearly gates? Of course Apple INVITED them, why the hell would it be the other way around?

And if you think Kaspersky will offer their consulting services for free, you're sorely mistaken.

This is just speculation, but it works like this.....

Kas: Hey Apple, we're a security company. Will we get sued if we analyze your OS?
Apple: No, don't be silly, go ahead
Kas: STOP THE PRESES! Breaking News! Apple invites Kas to evaluate the security of OSX!

Sensationalism is just as rampant in PR as it is journalism. I'd really like to see some details of the deal before we fall victims of the security racket. I'm sure Apple knows what they're doing, even if they aren't the quickest at patching rebranded 3rd party execution environments.

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I really liked your misquotes above - in any case, please feel free to show us the OS X viruses that everyone is so rabidly talking about...covering the last 11 years, I mean. :rolleyes:

Misquotes? Its the truth my friend. Ignorance is bliss of course right?
 
Interesting.

A while ago I relayed a story on MacRumors about meeting a friends friend who worked in marketing for MacAfee. We were at a wedding talking about our jobs, and I jokingly asked who are all these people that code viruses and how do they make a living to support themselves as it takes a lot of time, are they MacAfee and Norton employees throwing out security breaches to create product demand? We laughed, but he kind of half heartedly chuckled and winked. We got a little quiet at that point :).

You can't be serious. Can you?

If he went quiet, it was because he was embarrassed by the conversation.

MacAfee is a large, publicly traded company. If they were spreading viruses, and it became known (and there's a 100% certainty that it would become known) MacAfee would be a penny-stock within days. Same for Symantec (Norton), Kaspersky, ....



Reminds me of a 3 Stooges episode. They went into some woman's house, saying they're giving a free pest inspection, and they let out mice, moths, etc. saying the house is infested...

Can't say I'm not skeptical.

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Misquotes. You know as well as I do that Hitler never said exactly those words. :mad:

Never said it was a direct quote. Its a summary of historical events. Deny it if you'd like but its the truth. People throughout history people have made mistakes like those above. Its only a matter of time before things hit Mac's.
 
You can't be serious. Can you?

Yup, dead serious. Who knows what the inference was, it was humorous.

(and there is no 100% certainty it would be known, should that be the case, these companies have billions at stake, if this were true, and that's a big if, you can bet they're CTA's)
 
Most people I know who purchased an iPad have found themselves using it less after 6 months and returning to a PC for their needs. Trying to use an iPad for Office and professional activities is a frustrating experiance.
Most people like having a central location to store their files.
You may like your iPad but when it comes time for something other than Angry birds or web surfing, you too will want a PC. (Macs are PCs too)

Also, how can you say that 90% of the world who uses PCs wouldnt be influanced by that kind Of a jab towards the snotty Apple empire ?

It's just so ironic. It's hilarious.

Fix your skirt, friend. Your insecurity's showing. :rolleyes:

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Eh, I wouldn't go that far. OSX has most, if not all, of the same security features present in Windows 7. The biggest difference between the two is that MS responds to potential threats far, FAR quicker than Apple tends to.

That is the root of the problem. I was hoping that Apple had looked outside for help, but it looks now that Kaspersky's CEO was just making a fool of himself.
 
This is just speculation, but it works like this.....

Kas: Hey Apple, we're a security company. Will we get sued if we analyze your OS?
Apple: No, don't be silly, go ahead
Kas: STOP THE PRESES! Breaking News! Apple invites Kas to evaluate the security of OSX!

Sensationalism is just as rampant in PR as it is journalism. I'd really like to see some details of the deal before we fall victims of the security racket. I'm sure Apple knows what they're doing, even if they aren't the quickest at patching rebranded 3rd party execution environments.

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Looks like there was an update:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/14/kaspersky-exec-calls-mac-os-really-vulnerable/
 
Wow,
Lucky I'm not a conspiracy theorist type, or I'd think that there was a deliberate attempt across sections of the "PC" press to attack Apple and abuse their power to create an inaccurate perception in the general population.
Lucky.

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Also, how can you say that 90% of the world who uses PCs wouldnt be influanced by that kind Of a jab towards the snotty Apple empire ?

You spelled influenced as influanced. That's all I need to know about you.
 
Not grammar - spelling. I wasn't posting a correction, but just a comment on who would make such an error.

First of all: woosh.

Secondly: sometimes a finger slips, or you accidentally missspell something while in the midst of typing out a scathing retort. Generally speaking, if you want to judge someone on intelligence, it's better to look at the structure and wording of their arguments (the syntax, if you will) rather than the spelling itself.

I say this because I abuse commas like a straight up mofo, and I'm always looking for some way to excuse it.
 
Vulnerability isn't defined by the number of different threats present but by the susceptibility to any – even hypothetical! – possible threats!

It's not the number of attackers in front of the city walls! It's the number and size of holes in the walls! The absence of attackers don't negate the holes away!

While you are correct, how many purely OS issues have there been for Macs, how many that involved non OS Apple software. And how many involved non Apple software, which is more like having a guest hang a rope on the outside of the wall to let the villains climb in than an actual hole.


Companies like this want to make a name for themselves so I'm sure they were not upset about this misquote since it would create an air of endorsement by Apple. So much so that I question if it was really that much of a misquote at all or if they were trying to make it sound just as it came off.

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I thought Macs couldn't get viruses. :eek:

Not even Apple has made that claim. They said Mac OS is immune from all the PC viruses out there. Not all viruses.

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I explain the Pwn2Own hacking competition results in another post somewhat obliquely. The oft times winner of Pwn2Own, Charlie Miller, researches exploits for months before Pwn2Own.

What's funny about those competitions is how often the versions of the software are frozen for the big day only to have Apple release an update that renders their exploit mootdelays even weeks before they go to show it off.
 
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Not sure If you guys read up on it, but many people have very easily been able to gain root access of Mac OSX.. Thats where the issue lies..

So how exactly do you do that on a computer that has a fully updated version of Lion, no Flash, Java or Microsoft products installed (not even the Silverlight plugin). Keep in mind that this computer is on a hidden, passworded wifi (with a password that is at least 20 characters long and is a combo of letters, numbers and symbols with no actual words in any part of it), has zero sharing turned on in the firewalls, has 20+ characters on all user accounts. And you don't have physical access to it. There's zero pirated content of any kind as well

Something tells me you can't.

Common sense is one of the best av programs out there
 
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