So, would you believe it would be pointless to add a FrontFacing camera on maybe, say... the iPhone? Just curious - 🙂
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So, would you believe it would be pointless to add a FrontFacing camera on maybe, say... the iPhone? Just curious - 🙂
Actually, I wouldn't mind one on the iPhone. A smaller, lighter device is easier to hold up to your face and hold steady. However, I can't see people having long conversations with it like they do on laptops.
True - it would be easier for a smaller device. For some, using the iPad with video conferencing capabilities, may be a breeze. Some people may not find a huge distraction with holding up the 1.5 pound device. But then again, maybe some other people will find it cumbersome.
I still think it would be a great feature on either of the two. To have the ability to Video Call someone... anywhere.. that's pretty impressive. I know netbooks and laptops do this, but you know what I mean. The Apple iPad and iPhone are game changers.
Maybe someone will create a stand of some-sort, maybe like the casing avaible through Apple - that will utilize the functionality of Video Conferencing, by enabling a base stand that allows the Apple iPad to be swivled forward and backwards, like the stand for the 27-inch iMacs?
I know in this concept design people are going to wonder "Well who do you attach the stand to the iPad" - I really didnt think of that, but Maybe it can connect thru the 30-pin connector, and have it curve up from the bottom out to the back, and then down into a stand? - Im not at home, so I dont have my graphics program to do a better rendering - I resulted to using Paint on the Windows PC at work. But its just an idea... 😉
*** I also just realized that if this was the concept design, with the iPad being Helding by the Stand thru the 30-pin connector, that would take out the option of an iSight Adapter, and would rely on a built in front facing camera. ***
I agree. If the idea is, as Jobs said, "That you don't have to learn how to use it. It adapts to the user." I can't really see a front-facing camera being useable. How do you make it see your face in the various positions that are likely to suit it? On your lap, one angle. One the table with the case, a different angle. Lying in bed reading an ebook, yet another angle. If a camera were to work, it would have to have a moving lens that could track.
Another, perhaps briefer, question is, how would you implement a front-facing camera on a book, magazine, or newspaper? I don't think you could, given the variety of reading circumstances those media imply.
But it would get more geek points if it had a camera, usable or not.
Again, my question is this - do you think it would be useable to put a Front facing camera on an iPhone(instead of iPad)... and why? Is it because of the size, and weight? Would that make is more attractive and useable?
vincebio
macrumors 6502a
the camera is a non story....get a macbook.
those still pictures of Jobs holding the iPad at the keynote are very nice, but sadly they are nowhere to be seen on the keynote until you pause the video just as the red light refliection hits it as he turns the glossy screen in the face of that light and BANG< it just happens to look like a still of a camera.
Dream on people.
those still pictures of Jobs holding the iPad at the keynote are very nice, but sadly they are nowhere to be seen on the keynote until you pause the video just as the red light refliection hits it as he turns the glossy screen in the face of that light and BANG< it just happens to look like a still of a camera.
Dream on people.
I am dreaming - and you do HAVE a good point. I went thru all of the photos that I could find, from the Keynote, and sadly, in the Keynote video @ 9:03, thats where I could only find a snap shot of it. I dont think its the light sensor because... its too visible. I cannot for the life of me, see the one on my iPod touch, but I know it's there.
But there are also a few photos floating around, in regards to the Unibody frame that has the same inset design as the Macbook Pro, where the iSight Camera... so this is another reason why I'm hopeful! 🙂
Top: iPad frame, Center: Camera, Bottom: MacBook Frame
Great Idea - I would do that.. but unfortunately, I have to go - I'm at work.. and it's nearly 5:20am, and I gotta go finish up some bits of work, and head'er home.. 🙂 Maybe I'll do that when I get home, if someone hasn't... but I enjoy that idea!!
Thx mate!
Well, yeah. When dealing with a camera without someone to move it around, the camera and the subject have to be essentially stable relative to each other.
That's doable with a laptop, but more of a hassle with truly mobile devices. I mean, I guess I could carry the phone with me when I piss, but my girlfriend usually prefers that I just say, "be right back."
I honestly don't see a point other than saying that my tech can do this!1one!!!.
I have a laptop and a desktop for video conferencing. And I use them. I don't need iPad to do it. It's for other things, and I'm really pretty excited about it.
That's why I don't understand why people are bashing it. It doesn't pretend to be everything. It's a focused product. It's focused on what Apple thinks the netbook market should be. We'll see if they are right.
Although I'm a professional violinist, I don't really listen to music except when that's all I'm doing. I don't carry it around with me. I don't have it on when I'm working as a consultant or doing research.
Personally, it fits perfectly for me, and I can't wait to get my hands on one. It does exactly what I was hoping it would do. Web, email, basic productivity stuff, presentations.
That's exactly what I want. As a lightweight business device, this is just about as completely perfect as I could imagine. If I consumed more media, I could perhaps imagine being disappointed. But one thing I don't need in business is another camera to have to explain.
But I don't, and I think there are a lot of people out there like me.
More usable on iPhone because of size and weight but I still don't see long conversations.
There's a reason why video phones have never caught on. People don't want others to see them. In a video call, people can't multitask, lie about where they are, look like a slob, etc.
That's why video chats usually happen at home, where there is already a laptop/desktop, and ONLY used with people who you can't see normally (friends and family who live far away).
Actually it would not look shakey at all. The person in the frame would stay still but the background might and what not. it would look kinda like those "Fear Factor" type of TV shows.
Right. Because people use their cell phone cameras the same as they use their laptops.
Are you arguing that the person holding the camera wouldn't have to keep it pointed in the right place for it to make sense? Are you further arguing that keeping the camera facing the right spot is easy, let alone natural, or intuitive?
I'd like to see that implementation of camera technology.
Video calls will certainly do away with using the phone whilst on the loo, "Why are you straining like that"😀
SAG3194
macrumors 6502
i believe it was Johnny Ive that said "you don't need to change for the iPad, the iPad changes for you" or something like that
iBelieve you are correct. Sorry about that. But I don't think it changes my point in any substantial way.
What? iChat can use a built-in camera? Color me shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
/sarcasm
The idea of a camera in a fixed location at the top of a laptop has nothing to do with the fact that iChat makes use of that camera.
It's a completely unrelated idea.
Now think about how that might work on a device more portable than a laptop or a desktop. I think it's worthless. And I'm glad to not be paying extra for it when I get my iPad.
You are spot on with your comments - because I am JUST Like you. And I agree with the, "The Apple iPad doesnt claim to be everything" - only beef I have is the Flash deal.. but HTML 5 will kill it.. so Im not to worried. 🙂
Fair enough. Read your own posts. I don't have time to read them for you and tell you every little thing that is wrong.
I used to do that, but then I got busy.
Well, I'm glad to have at least one person agree with me. I could probably find a way to offend you, so maybe I should. That seems to be the tone here on MacRumors.
Maybe what I'm missing here is that I have all the computers I want and a few more, to boot.
I'm a consultant, and the companies who hire me pay for whatever I want. I have big MS installations, big Linux server installations, big Mac installations in what is supposed to be my bedroom.
My girlfriend hates it. But hey, when Intel is paying the bills, you don't get to gripe that much.
So what? I'm not really that important in the grand scheme of things. I'm just saying that this iPad had an almost perfect niche for business people.
I can't wait to see it in action. Obviously because I'm a hate-filled corporate shill.
It has and can never haz anything to do with the fact that it does exactly what I want it to do.
iGuess I got lucky since no one else likes it. 🙁