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I read a wonderful article in realtion to the point you just made. It stated the iPad symbolises the end of the "geek era". No longer can tech savy geeks help people with their computer problems. No longer will average PC tech heads charge themselves out at £400 per day to fix user issues. Geeks smell the end. iPad shows that when a device is at a price point for the mass market and doesn't need an entire IT team to support it the end is neigh. That's why the geeks are up in arms about not bring able to spend 4 billable hours downloading drivers for a new printer. It's all over and thank-god for that.

When hot girls will be able to fix their own computter problems. The geeks are worried.

The geek will no longer be useful.

So the iPad is this decade's iMac?
 
I really hope this is right..... In the past if you pre-ordered a product from apple online did you have it at your house on the day it launched in stores?

No. People who pre-order are a source of endless amusement around here. Those "XXX shipping???" threads are hilarious. Oh the hysteria, the anxiety, the anticipation of checking the Fedex tracking page every 15 minutes, and the bitter disappointment of seeing other people walk out of the Apple Store with one of those XXXs while yours is still somewhere over Kamchatka :D

If you want an iPad, just wait for them to hit the stores. There will be plenty to go around, I'm sure.
 
What are the chances they jailbreak the iPad to let you tether your iPhones internet connection with it?

You wouldn't need to jailbreak the iPad for this, just the iPhone... Unless you're saying you have a 2G iPhone and want to tether it to the 3G connection on your iPad.
 
The only thing holding me back on this is the lack of front facing camera. I think I would definitely find the cash to get a 3G model if that was included. 2nd Gen version then I guess.
 
No. People who pre-order are a source of endless amusement around here. Those "XXX shipping???" threads are hilarious. Oh the hysteria, the anxiety, the anticipation of checking the Fedex tracking page every 15 minutes

You're missing the point.
One can pre-order then get on with life.
When it becomes available it shows up on my doorstep.
No dealing with crowds.
No stores (none within a reasonable drive anyways).

Just fire and forget. Works great.
 
Why is a full osx better than the iPhone os on the ipad?

I have never heard the argument clearly stated.

Because I would like to be able to run my existing desktop applications and access my existing data.

With the iPad SDK one can run iP apps on the Mac. This will soon get integrated into iTunes and then perhaps the MacOS fully such that Apps will run on the Mac.

Similarly the iPOS could have an advanced mode where full MacOSX is available for the users who want it.

Similarly the MacOS on laptops and desktops could have a simplified mode where it acts more like the iPad/iPhone/iPodTouch iPOS.

Together these would give the advantage of a unified operating system over which all data and applications could be accessed provided the hardware is there. Simplicity from the user experience point of view.

Apple tried this before in a manner of speaking back before OSX. They may again try for a beginner/advanced mode. Many cameras have this and it is wonderful. My wife turns the little knob on my camera to the red selection and then the camera takes care of all the settings for her. I turn it to manual and choose my shutter speed, aperature, ISO, white, focus, etc. Everybody's happy and it only takes one piece of hardware.
 
Maybe the ipod touch is just a small less useful iPad
Great verbal judo with a Zen kick!
Truely isn't the Touch really a less useful IPad?. That does beg the question which I have been mulling- where does the Touch go from here? Is this the end of the product line or will there be a next generation and if so when will we hear of it and what would it be like???
 
Because I would like to be able to run my existing desktop applications and access my existing data.

With the iPad SDK one can run iP apps on the Mac. This will soon get integrated into iTunes and then perhaps the MacOS fully such that Apps will run on the Mac.

Similarly the iPOS could have an advanced mode where full MacOSX is available for the users who want it.

Similarly the MacOS on laptops and desktops could have a simplified mode where it acts more like the iPad/iPhone/iPodTouch iPOS.

Together these would give the advantage of a unified operating system over which all data and applications could be accessed provided the hardware is there. Simplicity from the user experience point of view.

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None of that would really work unless/until Mac OS X is fully multitouch enabled. Which is also the reason why you can't just force fit Mac OS X apps to the iPad, since everything is designed for a full time keyboard and mouse. The best you can hope for is what apple did with iWork- that developers make iPad specific versions of your favorite apps that are designed for multitouch and the other advantages/limitations of the iPad.

iPad apps don't work all that well in the simulator because you have click around with a mouse pointer on apps that were designed for you to reach out and tap the screen. It's just a developer tool. And Mac apps on the iPad screen? Wait until it comes out and use something like Remote Tap to remotely control a Mac OS X machine. While it's great in a pinch (i like it on my iPhone), you'll see why a touch/multitouch interface isn't the best way to interact with unmodified Mac OS X apps.

Eventually I would think a unified OS X could exist but I think we're years away from that convergence.
 
I was going to get a 17" MacBook Pro with a 1920 x 1200 screen, then i realized it's the exact same thing as a netbook with a 1024 x 600 screen. I can't imagine being able to do anything on a larger screen that can't already be done on a much smaller screen. In fact I'm replacing my iPod Touch with a .7 inch calculator watch :)

The question is if you have a MBP and an iPhone/Touch what gap is the iPad really filling? Do you want to deal with a 3rd device?

The iPad will sell some from being cool, to some niches, and to people who may not be on the iPhone/Touch train yet. The iPad does very little beyond a iPhone/Touch except have a bigger screen, which when it comes to portability is a negative instead of a positive.
 
Great verbal judo with a Zen kick!
Truely isn't the Touch really a less useful IPad?. That does beg the question which I have been mulling- where does the Touch go from here? Is this the end of the product line or will there be a next generation and if so when will we hear of it and what would it be like???

Surely the clue is in the title - the Touch is an iPod which also runs apps; the iPad is a tablet which happens to have an iPod in it. Or to put it another way, the Touch is a pocketable iPad, and that is its selling point. I can't see the Touch-iPhone 'bridge' effect - where those who can't yet afford an iPhone get a Touch - going away any time soon.

The question is if you have a MBP and an iPhone/Touch what gap is the iPad really filling? Do you want to deal with a 3rd device?

The iPad will sell some from being cool, to some niches, and to people who may not be on the iPhone/Touch train yet. The iPad does very little beyond a iPhone/Touch except have a bigger screen, which when it comes to portability is a negative instead of a positive.

If I were you I'd reserve judgement until we see what developers do with that larger screen. They'll be some who just make bigger iPhone apps of course, but I'm betting they'll be a feeew iPad apps out there that would NEVER have worked on the iPhone screen.
 
It would be nice if Apple actually updated the Apple TV...it's been over three years without new hardware...THREE YEARS!:mad:

Apple is probably like "Well....it works. Why change it?"

There's a reason computers are updated so often, but Apple TV is pretty one-dimensional.

But.....yes......updates are always nice to see.
 
It would be nice if Apple actually updated the Apple TV...it's been over three years without new hardware...THREE YEARS!:mad:

Just out of curiousity, what would new hardware change? I'd imagine from Apple's perspective, if you are getting all your media through iTunes, it still works fine. I have 2 of them, and while I wouldn't mind new hardware, I don't see the point from Apple's side yet.
 
At first i was unimpressed, but with more time to think about it, i think the ipad is going to be great. Even if I just use it 'on the can' to just browse the net.
I constantly get feed up of using the tiny iphone screen for the web and then just use my laptop instead.
I am really looking forward to the day when I have the ipad. The first thing i am going to do is clean up my iphone so it just has my music, email, and 10 of the best apps. Then have the ipad full of all the other pages and pages of ok apps that i dont have the heart to delete cos i paid 99 cents for!!
For a cleaner iphone, the Apple is getting my $499!!
Thanks Steve for making me part with my money for something I never thought I would need....

You've raised an interesting point: do we have any reason to believe we'll be able to copy or transfer apps from iPhone to ipad, and not have to re-buy the apps for the new device?

(besides, I'd rather have matched sets of apps on both: I don't want to have to try to remember which device to go to to use which app)
 
Notice there is a completely blank key on the iPad's keyboard/dock. Probably for Dashboard.

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The question is if you have a MBP and an iPhone/Touch what gap is the iPad really filling? Do you want to deal with a 3rd device?

The iPad will sell some from being cool, to some niches, and to people who may not be on the iPhone/Touch train yet. The iPad does very little beyond a iPhone/Touch except have a bigger screen, which when it comes to portability is a negative instead of a positive.

But the iPad is much more portable than a Macbook Pro (especially 15"+), weighs much less, and especially in the case of a MacBook Pro, is much less valuable. But at the same time it allows you to do several things that can not be done well on a smartphone (basic word processing, reference book reading, standard sized web browsing, near-laptop types of games, run presentations).

I would love to have the option of a 3rd device- it would really just be replacing the laptop for much of the time. I actually just sold my netbook in preparation for the iPad because I think it will do a much better job (battery life, apps actually designed for a 10" screen) and be more fun while doing it.
 
You've raised an interesting point: do we have any reason to believe we'll be able to copy or transfer apps from iPhone to ipad, and not have to re-buy the apps for the new device?

(besides, I'd rather have matched sets of apps on both: I don't want to have to try to remember which device to go to to use which app)

I'd say we'll definitely be able to install existing iPhone/iPod apps to our iPads.

Apple says:
iPad will work with almost all of the apps designed for the iPhone. Just download them from the App Store. Or, if you already have apps for your iPhone or iPod touch, you can sync them to iPad from your Mac or PC. Then run them in their original size or expand them to fill the screen.
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Im guessing a lot of developers will want to charge a bit more for iPad enhanced versions though.
 
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