Apple: iPad Pro is better than MacBook Pro

[TrueBlou]

The iPad Pro is a great system that can easily replace a traditional computer. I say traditional because obviously the iPad Pro is a computer. If and it's a big if, you don't need the extra advantages that an actual laptop or desktop system offers. Such as easier external storage interfaces (the iPad Pro can use hard drives, SD cards and so on with the addition of something like the Kingston MobileLite.) Or the obvious software that isn't available on iOS, for me that's Xcode.

I've got both. A 12.9" iPad Pro and a 2016 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. They're both great systems and they both have their own unique strengths and weaknesses. I can, and do, use the iPad Pro for work away from home sometimes if I know I won't be needing the full macOS experience and it handles the job admirably. I can always use Remote Desktop if I unexpectedly need access to macOS. Though if I'm totally honest, I mostly have both with me anyway. They both fit in the same bag, so why not.

Well, that was a lot of rambling pointless arse gravy in the end

 

[tubeexperience]

They can pick up an iPad Pro base model with keyboard for $814.39 in NYC area (with a high sales tax rate compared to much of the US). They could go even cheaper with an iPad Air 2 and a third party keyboard. Any of these options would probably be better than a $500 cheap computer for most users' needs. The iPad is NOT meant to compete with a MacBook Pro, iMac, Mac Pro, Alienware, Surface Pro 4, etc. Apple is not about being the "cheapest". I do not get the point you are trying to make. Nobody is forcing people to buy anything Apple. People keep saying the company is dead, but once again it's stock keeps climbing and its satisfaction numbers are above industry averages.

You can get a 15.6" laptop with Intel Core i5 (Skylake), 8GB DDR3L and Windows 10 Home for $500.

Also, let suppose that you can buy the iPad Pro with keyboard on sale for $800 (before taxes).

I am not sure how you manage to get $170 off, but let's roll with it.

What makes you think that the iPad and keyboard is better than the laptop?

 

[OneMike]

You're taking that ad very personally. They're aiming this at people that would be in the market for sub $1000 computers anyway. People that need an actual computer know that already and wouldn't be considering an iPad in lieu of a computer.

So in other words they're lying to people that don't know any better?

 

[JustinRP37]

You can get a 15.6" laptop with Intel Core i5 (Skylake), 8GB DDR3L and Windows 10 Home for $500.

Also, let suppose that you can buy the iPad Pro with keyboard on sale for $800 (before taxes).

I am not sure how you manage to get $170 off, but let's roll with it.

What makes you think that the iPad and keyboard is better than the laptop?

Okay well that computer you quoted probably has below average customer satisfaction. Will most likely come full of advertisement and demo software. It will also not come with built-in, best in-class encryption, and the support offered by the manufacturer will most likely only be via phone or third-party. I do not know why you think I quoted a price the tis $170 off. You apparently do not check Apple's store. a 9.7 inch iPad Pro starts at $599. An iPad Air 2 starts at $399.

Yes, you will definitely 'win' that a laptop is more versatile than an iPad. But MOST people truly are not looking for versatility. They are looking for ease of use, something familiar, and some that will work the same time every time with minimal amount of troubleshooting. Apple's iPad offers this. That is why I would say that for most people the iPad would be better than a crappy cheap computer. So does the Surface Pro, but guess which one is cheaper? The iPad! http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-apples-ipad-in-customer-satisfaction-dead-heat/. You can disagree with this all you want, but numbers are numbers and the stock indicates that shareholders are quite alright with the current results.

Apple is not telling everybody that this is the only computer they should ever use. Apple isn't even telling everyone that the iPad Pro is better than the MacBook Pro. They are simply pointing out that many users would enjoy using an iPad for a lot of different things. I can tell you I have see iPads deployed in everything from labs to constructions sites first hand. Now I use a MacBook Pro because I run intensive stats programs (so I do need Windows 10 occasionally on said Mac) and I use a citation manager/library to help me draft manuscripts. I also use it for many other intensive tasks as well. I also use my iPad to read documents, take notes, use the iPad in the lab and when I am out in the field. The best part, I can work on a Word document or Excel spreadsheet while out in the field or in a meeting and immediately have it on my MacBook Pro when I get back to my desk.

 

[tubeexperience]

Okay well that computer you quoted probably has below average customer satisfaction. Will most likely come full of advertisement and demo software. It will also not come with built-in, best in-class encryption, and the support offered by the manufacturer will most likely only be via phone or third-party. I do not know why you think I quoted a price the tis $170 off. You apparently do not check Apple's store. a 9.7 inch iPad Pro starts at $599. An iPad Air 2 starts at $399.

Hold on a second. Why would someone working on documents and spreadsheets and browsing the web needs best in-class encryption? Of cause, Windows does have bit BitLocker.

If he/she need some support, he/she can call Microsoft.

Pre-loaded software can be uninstalled from Settings.

The cheapest 12.9" iPad Pro is $799. The 9.7" model doesn't count because its screen is much smaller than most laptops' screens.

Then you have to pay another $169 for the Keyboard.

Yes, you will definitely 'win' that a laptop is more versatile than an iPad. But MOST people truly are not looking for versatility. They are looking for ease of use, something familiar, and some that will work the same time every time with minimal amount of troubleshooting. Apple's iPad offers this. That is why I would say that for most people the iPad would be better than a crappy cheap computer.

Wait! I thought you said that they want to edit documents and spreadsheets and browse the web.

Are you saying that a laptop with Intel Core i5 (Skylake) and 8GB DDR3L would have trouble doing this?

So does the Surface Pro, but guess which one is cheaper? The iPad! http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-apples-ipad-in-customer-satisfaction-dead-heat/. You can disagree with this all you want, but numbers are numbers and the stock indicates that shareholders are quite alright with the current results.

Also, iPad Pro is not cheaper than a Surface Pro 4. The latter is is $699 and already include the Pen (Apple charges another $99).

Apple is not telling everybody that this is the only computer they should ever use. Apple isn't even telling everyone that the iPad Pro is better than the MacBook Pro. They are simply pointing out that many users would enjoy using an iPad for a lot of different things. I can tell you I have see iPads deployed in everything from labs to constructions sites first hand. Now I use a MacBook Pro because I run intensive stats programs (so I do need Windows 10 occasionally on said Mac) and I use a citation manager/library to help me draft manuscripts. I also use it for many other intensive tasks as well. I also use my iPad to read documents, take notes, use the iPad in the lab and when I am out in the field. The best part, I can work on a Word document or Excel spreadsheet while out in the field or in a meeting and immediately have it on my MacBook Pro when I get back to my desk.

iPad Pro is just a bigger version of the iPad. It is not a computer replacement. It is neither cheaper nor more capable than a computer.

 

[JustinRP37]

Hold on a second. Why would someone working on documents and spreadsheets and browsing the web needs best in-class encryption? Of cause, Windows does have bit BitLocker.

If he/she need some support, he/she can call Microsoft.

Pre-loaded software can be uninstalled from Settings.

The cheapest 12.9" iPad Pro is $799. The 9.7" model doesn't count because its screen is much smaller than most laptops' screens.

Then you have to pay another $169 for the Keyboard.



Wait! I thought you said that they want to edit documents and spreadsheets and browse the web.

Are you saying that a laptop with Intel Core i5 (Skylake) and 8GB DDR3L would have trouble doing this?



Also, iPad Pro is not cheaper than a Surface Pro 4. The latter is is $699 and already include the Pen (Apple charges another $99).



iPad Pro is just a bigger version of the iPad. It is not a computer replacement. It is neither cheaper nor more capable than a computer.

But first: Yeah.. Call Microsoft. Your are right, phone support is so much better for Grandma or a non-tech person, rather than having them visit a store and sit with a human. Teach Grandma to uninstall in settings.

Surface Pro 4 starts at $699, iPad Pro starts at $599. And no the 9.7 inch does count. Stop being a troll. Just because a product doesn't meet your needs, doesn't mean it is garbage. You have contributed nothing important to the thread nor stated how you would make anything better. What is your point and why do you even bother coming to MacRumors if you clearly hate Apple? Provide me with true customer satisfaction stats that show that cheap computers have higher satisfaction. And again Apple does not care about going for volume with cheap pricing. They are attacking a different end of the market and they are killing it based on their financial performance over a decade. Until another company can come along and do better, they are still the best. I really hope that someone can come along and challenge them as competition drives innovation. But just be objective with your arguments. Usually if someone has stats to back up their arguments, then they can convert people.

Oh and the 9.7 inch iPad is a Pro model. Do I think it is more 'Pro' than previous versions. No, it is a stupid marketing term. But the screen and tru-tone is great. And lastly, everyone should care about encryption.

 

[Weaselboy]

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