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Apple, iPhone and Corporate America..
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Obviously I'm referring to the USA/Apple/ATT...
I have a hard time believing apple sits back and makes no mention to ATT of what to do with the pricing plans.
Shoot, I know what you mean. I bought a spindle of a hundred DVD-Rs, 417 GB, for 20 bucks after rebate. Those hard drive prices sure are a ripoff.
Horrible that they're charging what they've been charging for PDAs for, you know, ages.
Or so you think. Like i said i find it hard to believe they make it a mandatory data plan, make texts seperate, yet you sit here and tell me apple had no collaboration with att? Please. thats what they TELL you.
No. You're financially screwed if you buy a phone that you can't afford to pay the pricing plan on. There are plenty of phones (and carriers) where you can be paying less than $40 a month.
Clearly you didn't bother to read them.......I'm referring to the rule stating that you must check to see if similar threads have already been posted, since you have already acknowledged that there are other threads like yours, you clearly knew you were breaking them......go rebel!
AT&T charges for the phone service, not Apple. It's a phone... they obviously need someone to provide the cellular network, because last time I checked Apple didn't have one.
$30 + $20 is what you have to pay for EVERY SMARTPHONE. Blackberry Curve, Moto Q, Samsung Blackjack, whatever. How is it a "contradiction"? If anything, the previous pricing was a contradiction because while the iPhone was classified as a smartphone, it was exempt from the traditional AT&T pricing scheme for smartphones.
Like others have said, Apple is a business and they need/want to make money. If you don't like it - you don't have to pay. There are other phones that are free, with cellular contracts that are cheaper.
You think the guys at AT&T are going to let another company, not even in the wireless business, tell them how to recover their infrastructure costs? That's ridiculous.
Again, the rates for the 3G iPhone are exactly what AT&T has been charging PDA users all along. No consipiracy, no input from Apple.
Thats where consumer discretion comes into play.
I know what i can afford, but i also truly believe that both Apple and ATT should have made a LOT of changes with the first iphone, both hardware, software, and financially.
I seem to have hit a sore spot with all of you on the apple bandwagon. Corporate america dicks over the consumer, and the consumer defends the corporation. Priceless.
If you would replace the word APPLE with AT&T, your rant would make much more sense. i too cant stand how much is being charged for things. But i know very well it isnt APPLE's doing whatsoever. The rate plans are COMPLETELY up to the service provider. Look at all the crap Rogers is getting for their "rate plans" and other carriers around the world are getting the same response. Sadly it hasnt been the same case here in the states cause others justify it as "well, thats what all data packages have been for BBs and such" Well I believe all of ATT plans are overpriced and especially their text message plans. I think ATT is a total ripoff with their text plans, and i will not get them IF i get the new iphone. BB users, WM users and the others pay the same price as Iphone users will be paying. Is it fair? yes it is, is it overpriced, HELL YES! The first gen iphone was priced high and unsubsidized due to the APPLE/ATT revenue sharing agreement with the rate plans. That is why there werent any rate plan discounts available. Now since the revenue sharing is over, people can use their FAN discounts. Again you should really research before you post something like that. Your whole rant was mostly directed at APPLE for rate plan pricing. Apple doesnt sell rate plans
So, based on your theory, Apple had the input for EVERY smartphone contract with att?? Think about it ffs.....
Trust me on this - I've used close to a dozen different model phones with different carriers...and in my experience, a touch screen would help me TREMENDOUSLY. Not to go as far as to say for everyone, but for me it would. I loved it when I had my friends iphone for a week.
I'm so sick of these threads.
Apple is not the one charging you monthly fees. See that at&t bill? Yes, that's at&t "overcharging" you. Got a problem? Go post it in an at&t forum.
Also, they've changed nothing. The data price for 3G has always been $30. ON EVERY PHONE FOR AT&T. And guess what else? None of the other plans have text messages included either! Go figure!
Before you lay out a complete waste of text composed of misdirected complaints, get your facts straight. Until then, I'm not even sure why I'm wasting my time with these threads.
Apple is not the one charging you monthly fees. See that at&t bill? Yes, that's at&t "overcharging" you. Got a problem? Go post it in an at&t forum.
Also, they've changed nothing. The data price for 3G has always been $30. ON EVERY PHONE FOR AT&T. And guess what else? None of the other plans have text messages included either! Go figure!
Before you lay out a complete waste of text composed of misdirected complaints, get your facts straight. Until then, I'm not even sure why I'm wasting my time with these threads.
its not a sore spot you hit. was just a very misinformed post against apple. your post shoulda been directed against ATT. but at least ATT isnt treating the iphone like some other carriers (rogers)
i dont qualify for an upgrade for either of my two phones on my family plan so ten to one i wont be getting the two 16GB phones. The phones just arent worth $1000 total for me. I was going to use my dads two lines to upgrade and get the phone but now im hearing that ATT once again is treating this phone as so special that you cant use someone elses upgrades to get this phone
i dont qualify for an upgrade for either of my two phones on my family plan so ten to one i wont be getting the two 16GB phones. The phones just arent worth $1000 total for me. I was going to use my dads two lines to upgrade and get the phone but now im hearing that ATT once again is treating this phone as so special that you cant use someone elses upgrades to get this phone
I'm not defending the corporation. I'm defending my right to what you call "consumer discretion".
I weighed the pros and cons of this purchase. How much extra it would cost me to have the iPhone 3G over my current one, and whether the extra features/benefits were worth it. I decided it was.
Would I like things to be cheaper? Duh. Who wouldn't.
I'm just finding a lot of hypocrisy in your statements saying that you're getting screwed over as you voluntarily fork over your cash. If you really thought the iPhone wasn't worth the money and chose not to buy it, I'd actually respect you.
Yes, FAIL. Because we all know America is better
If you say so, but atleast we have a good iPhone 3g plan.....no thanks to Apple though
I haven't decided yet. It hasnt even been released. I still may stick with my Pearl / Tmobile.
If you say so, but atleast we have a good iPhone 3g plan.....no thanks to Apple though
I'm about to move there anyway. GB ruined this country!
Let me clarify instead of responding to individuals..
Why I'm upset:
@Apple - Marketing, press releases, open source, pricing on phone models, etc.
@ATT - Pricing, customer service, ShaftingTM
I guess i blurred the lines.
Read that again.