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Apple iPhone is 4th Top Selling Mobile Phone in U.S.
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The key is the 2nd generation. I think we only need to look at the iPod history to see where it will go.
And, yet people keep buying them.
We have this thing, here in America. It's called profit. Companies that prosper are profitable and those that don't perish. Look to your governments and cell phone companies as to why the plan is so expensive. My ATT plan is very reasonable and I love my iPhone.
Yes and there are a bunch of PCs sold in the world each year. And it used to be that 96% of them had windows, and even greater monopoly than Nokia.
Now that number is headed for 80%, with Linux and Mac eating away at Microsofts share. Hey in the last year Apple PC market share has gone from 4% to 8%, DOUBLE and climbing fast. It's physically impossibe for Microsoft to double it's market share. IT IS POSSIBLE for Microsoft to get it's share of the market cut in half. That's still possible. There are a lot of unhappy Vista users who aren't seeing "The Wow"! Not to mention the Zune users who aren't enjoying "The Social".
Apple can still double it's market share another 3 times, while Microsoft has nowhere to go but down.
Actually what Verizon does have is more customers and a better network. And they don't have to become AT&T's bitch, either.
Only the vast majority of phones nokia sells are the low end models with small margins. They sell nowhere near that many of the n series. If apple was to take just 10% of the consumer smart phone market, nokia will be worried.. Just a few % of the mobile market for apple means perhaps double the share of market revenue if not more.
Rom, you've got your figures wrong. There will be more that 1,000,000,000 cellphones sold this year in the world. 40% of those are Nokias. The number of cellphone users in the world today is about 3,000,000,000. Because Nokias share has been rising, less than 40% of those are Nokia users. Still, it's quite safe to estimate that over 1,000,000,000 people user Nokia cells in the world today. Compared to 1,225,000 iphone users.
I see it also says the typical iPhone customer has a 6 digit family income. Are the majority of macrumors readers rich or just not your typical iPhone customer?
Even though Nokia sells a lot of cheap cells, it also sells more smartphones in a week than Apple sells during a quarter...
The mistake Apple made with iPhone was to make it operator specific. From the numbers publish by Strategy Analytics one can estimate that Apple would probably have sold about 3m iPhones during the first quarter if it was available for all the cell networks in the US.
That's a bold statement considering they are getting monthly revenue directly from AT&T. No one really knows how much they are getting but even if it's 1$ a month, that's 1.1Million in revenue every month for the next two years. Assuming they have the same revenue sharing agreements with the other providers, I don't think they mind the slower growth rate.
Many Americans are also living beyond their means and in debt to their eyeballs. I make a 6 digit income but you won't see me buying the current generation mainly since I still have a T-Mobile contract. I'd also prefer a flip or slider (Shuffle-like) version. I'm not a candy bar phone lover.
That's a bold statement considering they are getting monthly revenue directly from AT&T. No one really knows how much they are getting but even if it's 1$ a month, that's 1.1Million in revenue every month for the next two years. Assuming they have the same revenue sharing agreements with the other providers, I don't think they mind the slower growth rate.
such a bold statement that i actually did the math before making it
well you can do the math yourself. assuming 1.1m sold locked and 3m sold unlocked / quarter, $120 profit / phone (in line with independent reports) and $1 / month from att, the cost of the 5 year deal with att in lost sales is about $4b.
Correct! I don't know if you meant Apple's bitch though. From what i heard, AT&T is getting a very reasonable deal out of the iPhone, they are making good cash, not great cash, since they only collect from the contract and not the phone itself; and that Apple is collecting from the phone and a small percentage of the contract.
Verizon and Sprint don't seem to be too worried about the iPhone, because like the iPod market, there will be plenty of knock-offs that offer better features at a better price. And since people keep bringing up the iPod market to compare the success of the iPhone, I can see it being a good example of it's failure. Palm (if they use their heads for once) may wow us with a new OS based off of Linux, and a professional smartphone that blows away anything the iPhone may have to offer.
Both, some of us are rich, and we are rich because we don't waste our money on certain things, and some of us are poor, because we are poor plain and simple.
The others just have money to waste, and are poor because we do waste our money.
Many Americans are also living beyond their means and in debt to their eyeballs. I make a 6 digit income but you won't see me buying the current generation mainly since I still have a T-Mobile contract. I'd also prefer a flip or slider (Shuffle-like) version. I'm not a candy bar phone lover.
I don't mind the candy bar look, but I'd love to see an iPhone made like the Nintendo DS and other phones, that opens up along the width of the device and has more functionality. It could still use the touch UI.
As a long-time Mac user, I have to admit marveling at the irony that Motorola is the one standing to lose so much to the iPhone's popularity--considering how much damage was done to Apple's sales and image many years ago due to Motorola's apparent disinterest in boosting the speed of the PPC chip. Are we seeing Apple's revenge?
Anyway, strange how things change, and how a company that was once a partner is now the competition. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out (although if Motorola's track record is any indication, they will basically crawl along at a slug's pace while Apple charges right past them.)
Anyway, strange how things change, and how a company that was once a partner is now the competition. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out (although if Motorola's track record is any indication, they will basically crawl along at a slug's pace while Apple charges right past them.)
please show me the data of that 80%
as well as
8%
thanks
also
#4 is a vague statement, can we get the full report and get a whole idea? any links?
He obviously didn't see this N95 for $576.
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N95-Sil...5757?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1193086533&sr=8-1
My iPhone was only $299.
Plus, I think it started selling even better with the price drop and when the unlock hacks came out...
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Yeah... and with the unlock hacks and the update I am sure everyone is happy with their new iBricks. Seriously though... the N95 has ten times the amount of features the iPhone has, and if it works on more than one network (which is does) it's already better than the iPhone.
The only two features I need from the iPhone is to get my laptop online through bluetooth or USB and to be on a faster network.
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Umm,
these numbers suggest there's something wrong at AT&T.
AT&T's best selling phone is number 4 ?
So there are 3 other phones selling better, all on other networks?
or is it that the 3 other phones are available on multiple networks?
these numbers suggest there's something wrong at AT&T.
AT&T's best selling phone is number 4 ?
So there are 3 other phones selling better, all on other networks?
or is it that the 3 other phones are available on multiple networks?
