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Apple iPhone on June 15th?

Hmmm, I've been wondering about this for a while. How could Steve have used the iPhone to make a call if it was not passed through the FCC? Is using a non-approved FCC phone even legal? I could see that it would be legal for internal testing, but Steve was clearly not testing the phone at MacWorld, hmmm

I bet that the iPhone has passed FCC testing, and now Apple is just fixing software bugs and finishing the non-wireless technology. What do you guys think?
 
Sean7512 said:
Hmmm, I've been wondering about this for a while. How could Steve have used the iPhone to make a call if it was not passed through the FCC? Is using a non-approved FCC phone even legal? I could see that it would be legal for internal testing, but Steve was clearly not testing the phone at MacWorld, hmmm

I bet that the iPhone has passed FCC testing, and now Apple is just fixing software bugs and finishing the non-wireless technology. What do you guys think?
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I think they have finished the physical iPhone and are waiting for Leopard to be completed.
 
ChrisH3677 said:
Does Apple still use a colored logo on any of it's corporate letterhead? I thought the grey Apple logo was the standard.
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Who knows. Apple may use different letterhead for different departments and different addressees. (The orange logo could be the iPod departments letterhead for internal discussions or even for FCC/Government communication).
 
Rocketman said:
I do believe I can prove it to your satisfaction.

It did not have an iSight on the front of it yet.

Rocketman

Never forget I am imperfect. Only 70% of my predictions/observations are accurate.
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If Apple is going after Video phone (Aka Video iChats) capabilites, move over George Jetson, which would be really cool, I would have to agree with you.
Yes I was wondering why they only had a camera in the back like simple phones.
 
Sean7512 said:
Hmmm, I've been wondering about this for a while. How could Steve have used the iPhone to make a call if it was not passed through the FCC? Is using a non-approved FCC phone even legal? I could see that it would be legal for internal testing, but Steve was clearly not testing the phone at MacWorld, hmmm

I bet that the iPhone has passed FCC testing, and now Apple is just fixing software bugs and finishing the non-wireless technology. What do you guys think?
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The FCC rules say it has to be approved to be sold. It has not been sold to anyone yet. The FCC knows companies need to test their products and demo them before they are approved.
 
Thaks Rocketman for your reply.

Now here is one for you....
We are waiting on SantaRosa architecture machines, Leopard, iWorks, iLife, iPhone and many more products, It would seem that if most of them release in the June to July timeframe (later for video iPod); Apple will not be able to keep up the hype machine from month to month and the majority of the press will be lumped into a single period.
Maybe im missing something but the above situation does not seem to work as well for apple as releasing something UBER every 3 to 4 months.
Maybe the products are just not ready to release befire June.
 
Peace said:
Well this is kind of a drag.It looks like the iPhone won't be out till WWDC which means Leopard probably won't be out till June also since the iPhone depends a lot on Leopard technology.
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I don't think they are related. Although the iPhone is said to run a version of Leopard, if it is it has to be an extremely simplified version of Leopard. Apple could have easily finished the iPhone edition of Leopard while the full version (for a whole range of hardware platforms instead of just one) is not ready yet.

It won't be a syncing issue either. Apple would be really foolish releasing a phone that is not compatible with at least Tiger, Leopard, XP and Vista (possibly after updates for all but Leopard).
 
More excuses

Assuming the iPhone hardware and FCC approvals are going on or ahead of schedule, and assuming Leopard is at least "good enough soon enough", what else could delay it?

Apple/Steve stated Cingular (now AT&T) had to do significant software upgrades to their network. They have a vast network. That could take some time. If they have added new features (random voicemail announced, EDGE 2.0 not announced, internetwork operation not announced, wimax not announced, such deployments could take considerable time. Perhaps 6-12 months PAST a June deployment start (announce) date.

The stated initial deployment of 10,000,000 units is till the END of 2008.

A lot of very cool stuff is going to happen between now and then on deployed hardware being upgradeable as access warrants to ever improving network deployments. iPhone (ATN:) ) is SIMPLE to deploy as compared to network capabilities.

This is a situation where Apple is creating demand to justify supply. Very cool.

Rocketman
 
EagerDragon said:
Thaks Rocketman for your reply.

Now here is one for you....
We are waiting on SantaRosa architecture machines, Leopard, iWorks, iLife, iPhone and many more products, It would seem that if most of them release in the June to July timeframe (later for video iPod); Apple will not be able to keep up the hype machine from month to month and the majority of the press will be lumped into a single period.
Maybe im missing something but the above situation does not seem to work as well for apple as releasing something UBER every 3 to 4 months.
Maybe the products are just not ready to release befire June.
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Summertime is slow for media coverage.

BUT summer is when people are out and about buying stuff.

Have faith.

Apple does not use the hype machine all that much. It uses the web and physical retail.

Rocketman

Peace!
 
i would love it tomorrow but i can wait, I hope they make a few improvements like 3g and AIM but does that have any effect on the FCC? I can wait, i wouldn't mind it june as my b-day is early July so i guess i know my b-day present
 
The more I look the more it looks fake

Why a fake?

- Orange, not grey Apple logo
- Letter starts higher on the page than the logo
- Right margin is too near the edge of the page (though that could be image cropping)
- Address extends beyond the footer horizontal line
- The signature spills over into the footer
- Why repeat the address in the signature?
- Also WHY would it be addressed "To Whom it May Concern"??? Gimme a break!! Apple doesn't know who they're dealing with at the FCC???

If this is real, Steve Jobs will be having kittens on its appalling layout.
 
I find it interesting that the requested date is the ending date of WWDC. Not that it necessarily means anything, but it could mean they will be discussing iPhone technologies at WWDC.

It could also just be a coincidence, as the 15th is the middle of the month.
 
June 15th is a Friday - I doubt very much Apple will release their next 'revolutionary' product on a Friday.

Even the 'new' shuffles come out on a USA Tuesday!

Z
 
iPhone can't come soon enough

I bought a new Blackberry Pearl after Apple introduced the iPhone (had been waiting for it) and I realized I could not get one until summer.

The Pearl is okay, but really, it sucks bad when you consider the possibilities that Phones could rise to achieve.

The user interface is clunky, the internet browsing is basically useless except for the weather.

Email works great. Everything else is useless, basically -- all for $200 bucks with a 2 year contract and a voice and data package that is costing me $90 bucks a month.

I would Gladly spend $600 with a similar data package for a phone with some teeth -- at least a usable browser, larger screen, etc.

Bring on the iPhone.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
What does ATN mean? I see peeps using it... and i'm lost.
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Attention is what I always thought... not sure what its being used as above...

EDIT: see "An augmented transition network (ATN) is a type of graph theoretic structure used in the operational definition of formal languages, used especially in parsing relatively complex natural languages, and having wide application in artificial intelligence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_transition_network
 
i believe ATN is a Rocketman et al abbreviation for 'Apple Tablet Nano' that is, a better/more descriptive name for this device. :)
 
PBGPowerbook said:
i believe ATN is a Rocketman et al abbreviation for 'Apple Tablet Nano' that is, a better/more descriptive name for this device. :)
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et al? Pretty sure it's just Rocketman using it. I'm yet to see anybody else use his made-up term.

Meh, whatever.
 
scrambledwonder said:
I want an iPhone now too. Or maybe a flip iPhone with two touch screens. . .
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haha, that's a scary thought. An iPhone that plays 2 movies at once, with 2 headphone jacks, each tied to one of the screens... so you and your SO can sit together and watch 2 different things... separate, but together! That sounds like something MS would think was a cool idea ;)

but seriously, I want an iPhone with a multi-think interface. That way, my phone could truly be as confused as me...
 
szark said:
I find it interesting that the requested date is the ending date of WWDC. Not that it necessarily means anything, but it could mean they will be discussing iPhone technologies at WWDC.
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heh, why would they discuss the iPhone tech at WWDC? for one, they probably want to keep it under wraps. But mostly, why would any developers outside apple care? they can't develop for it.... ;)
 
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