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EETimes notes that in one conference entitled "It's the User Experience, Stupid", a blue-ribbon panel of human behavior and technology experts agreed that the iPhone represents a model for mobile operators to follow. They agreed that the existing user interfaces on mobile phones were poor compared to the iPhone and suggested that the iPhone's simply structured internet plans may also serve to encourage mobile internet usage.
This isn't news, it's common sense.
 
What can you people tell me about when Apple is no longer obligated to AT&T and what they might do? I haven't kept up on it all and I heard that the contract is only 2 years exclusive. Is that true? And what happens after that? Any ideas or speculation??? What about that mandate to open the 700MHz spectrum to any device???
 
yup

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yes. The iPod touch doesn't use the edge network.


apparently their browsers are able to separate themselves too..!!
i read it in some thread at MR nly!!
 
This comes as no surprise to me (an iPhone owner)... the user interface on other cell phones is horrible. When Steve Jobs said that the iPhone was years ahead of everyone else, he wasn't talking about just hardware specs. After the iPhone came out you saw a bunch of other cell phone manufacturers come out with phones with similar "features" ("Touch Screen", "Mobile Internet", "Listen to Music on your Phone", blah blah). However, it is very difficult to turn a "feature list" into something that people actually like using.
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exactly.... many people think the same way, but you said it quite clearly...


The iPhone scores here for two reasons:

1) It's an excellent mobile browser. Definitely the best in class.
2) The unlimited data plans. Most contracts for other phones don't offer these as standard.
Time will tell if revenue can be made here. I suspect that if data plans were capped usage would drop like a stone.

As long as the caps aren't draconian, I don't think it would be a big deal. maybe 5GB/month or something. Now a phone modem/tethering plan or a mobile broadband laptop card plan NEED to be different since you can use much more data on a laptop. Not only because of downloading applications, video streaming, etc.. but because even at the same rated speeds, the data cards in practice have a much better throughput.
And even then, IMO, the best way to do caps (other than not have any!) is to NOT cut the person off, but to lower their bandwidth by 1/2 or something. Or they could have it progressive where your speed starts dropping off once you go over a limit.

I guess this explains why so many guys were quick to offer iPhone formatted versions of their sites. Even Bank of America, where I would have expected it to take years to roll out a new iPhone portal (I know, I used to work there- took forever and a thousand signatures to roll out any new tech.)
At first I was like- man... this is amazing. All these guys coming out with versions of their site for one phone from one vendor. But with these numbers, it is starting to make sense.

This is really nice for us and for the iPhone/Touch owners if you think about it. Apple doesn't need to get 90% of the market share for phones to start catering to us!

Yep, I think Google's website is incredible. I was planning on writing a native RSS reader until I found their online one to be everything I could wish for. and the Ajax is FAST and responsive.


apparently their browsers are able to separate themselves too..!!
i read it in some thread at MR nly!!

Well the fact that the iPhone uses EDGE and not the Touch doesn't matter at all. Google just sees an IP address and unless they know the whole block AT&T uses to connect your phone to the internet, they wouldn't be able to determine where it's coming from. Otherwise google looks at the user agent which I am not sure if it identifies if it's the touch or iPhone, but I am sure it probably does.


at Least Vancouver is getting an apple store sometime in the next year or so... or so they say. I'm not even holding my breath on that one...:rolleyes:

I was in vancouver last fall, and while I was on Robson(?) street, I got a sudden urge to go finally see the iPhone and new macs. You can imagine how COMPLETELY SHOCKED i felt when I went to google maps on my phone (Treo POS) to locate the nearest Apple store. VANCOUVER Canada with no Apple Store!!??! WHAT HORROR! Apple should be ASHAMED of itself. I demand Steve Jobs to build one there immediately!
 
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MyJelleo said:
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yes. The iPod touch doesn't use the edge network.

And how would Google know which radio you were using?
 
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And how would Google know which radio you were using?

It doesn't. It goes by UA. You used your (or a) Touch to post that. The person you quoted used an iPhone. But I bet that was your intention wasn't it? :D
 
As long as the caps aren't draconian, I don't think it would be a big deal. maybe 5GB/month or something. Now a phone modem/tethering plan or a mobile broadband laptop card plan NEED to be different since you can use much more data on a laptop. Not only because of downloading applications, video streaming, etc.. but because even at the same rated speeds, the data cards in practice have a much better throughput.
And even then, IMO, the best way to do caps (other than not have any!) is to NOT cut the person off, but to lower their bandwidth by 1/2 or something. Or they could have it progressive where your speed starts dropping off once you go over a limit.

Fair point. I would agree with that.
 
I love the Iphone, I love my Ipod touch, but the one thing that makes it so much better than any other mobile device is the size of the screen, and the "normal" looking internet browser- thats really all. The internet sucked on every other phone because the screens were never big enough to see anything or support anything even resembling what the internet looks like on a PC so they all sucked horribly. I cannot wait until Nextel comes out with a similar phone (they already have but I think it is delayed for some reason). It looks to offer similar features though.
 
Out of the box browsing experience its king as average users just use what is there (See DOJ busted MS for bundling IE).

Safari is by far the best native phone browser so it makes sense it has the most usage.

RIM still sells twice as much in the US as the overall package is better especially for power users - superior push email, third party apps out of the box, better phone, more form factors, and class leading corporate management infrastructure. But the browser sucks for non optimized content.

Any BB power user uses the free Opera Mini browser with similar scaling and zooming features of Safari and it was available about the same time the iPhone came on the market.

No flash = not "real" Internet like the commercial claims with so many sites using flash. On Windows Mobile you have several "real" Internet options while the iPhone is stuck with fake Internets probably until the SDK arrives:D

http://www.opera.com/b2b/solutions/mobile/
http://www.skyfire.com/

The creative founder of Apple [Woz] still uses a RIM Blackberry Pearl, so that is saying something (he say its a great smartphone but the native browser sucks):eek:

RIM needs to launch a switch ad campaign: Switched back :D
 
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