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Apple is 'Close' to OLED Screen Deal With LG and Samsung for Future iPhones

isomorphic said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Samsung Galaxy displays "Pentile"? In which case they are undersampling certain colors (typically blue) on the display. I don't see how one can argue that any such display is "sharper" than an IPS display at equivalent resolutions. If Pentile allows Samsung to increase the resolution by more than the undersampling, then perhaps it can be sharper.

OLED probably does provide better dynamic range--and possibly color--than any backlit technology because it is emissive.
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Your average person looks at a screen, make a judegement call on hich is subjectively better looking to them, and then uses buzzwords like "sharp", "pop", "pretty", etc. This isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but it is what it is. Plenty of people think the Galaxy line has sharper, prettier, etc. displays.
 
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What's on the screen on the iPhone in the OP?
 
musika said:
On OLED screens, black takes less power, while white on the LED tech on current iPhones takes less power. I'd like to see them offer a 'Dark Mode' or just a black-based UI in general, like the Apple Watch.

As much as I don't like the Apple Watch, the UI is pretty cool in places, especially because it seems to blend into the black bezel quite well.
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Interesting I like my Apple watch but the UI lets it down, the Samsung Gear S2 generally has a better UI, and it's upsetting for me to say that as I hate Samsung. Generally the UI on the watch looks ugly (music app and the app launcher are the only things which look good IMO) I find white text on a black background super hard to read compared to break on white, but I still think there should be an option for people who prefer it. I also find OLED screens too saturated, but maybe Apple can get it right, I really like the current screen of the iPhone, I can't see why so many people want OLED, I'm obviously missing something!
 
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lordofthereef said:
Your average person looks at a screen, make a judegement call on hich is subjectively better looking to them, and then uses buzzwords like "sharp", "pop", "pretty", etc. This isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but it is what it is. Plenty of people think the Galaxy line has sharper, prettier, etc. displays.
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I hope whatever Apple does they don't mimic the galaxy/note screens. There is something about them that bothers my eyes.
 
runeapple said:
... I really like the current screen of the iPhone, I can't see why so many people want OLED, I'm obviously missing something!
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I agree, the current screens are great. I know there is always a desire to improve and even if it's only for a bump to battery life, that's great. But I think the colors look better on iPhones than the super saturated OLED competitors.
 
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What is the implications on 'shorter life-span'? How much time are we talking about? Most people have their phone less than 3 years I would say. And the life span for a phone is what - 5 years? And if OLED works 5 years while LCD 10 years the effect is close to zero...
 
cocacolakid said:
I agree, the current screens are great. I know there is always a desire to improve and even if it's only for a bump to battery life, that's great. But I think the colors look better on iPhones than the super saturated OLED competitors.
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Exactly, I'd guess Apple would hold out until they can produce a color accurate OLED display, but as iOS is mainly white, I can't see there being much battery benefits over the current screens.
 
cocacolakid said:
I agree, the current screens are great. I know there is always a desire to improve and even if it's only for a bump to battery life, that's great. But I think the colors look better on iPhones than the super saturated OLED competitors.
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That saturation can be switched off. It's just a setting now. According to Displaymate, OLED screens have been the best, most accurate displays for the past couple of years running.

I7guy said:
I hope whatever Apple does they don't mimic the galaxy/note screens. There is something about them that bothers my eyes.
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I hope they mimic the ability to choose display settings. Samsung has Basic Mode (Accuracy), Cinema (Movies & Video), Photo (Adobe RGB color gamut), and the infamous Dynamic (saturated for pop).
 
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Infinitewisdom said:
I would absolutely love a Dark Mode too. I hate the all-white. It's a pain in the neck to use at night.
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Not sure if this is what you mean, but try Settings > General > Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut > Check "Invert Colors" when you click the Home Button three times.
 
macduke said:
I've always wanted Dark Mode on iOS! Even 2+ years after iOS 7 I'm still not a fan of all the white. I even went out of my way to design our app using dark backgrounds and UI blurs.
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Not sure if this is what you mean, but try Settings > General > Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut > Check "Invert Colors" when you click the Home Button three times.
 
smulji said:
If you're cranking out over 200 million iPhones a year, it better damn well be
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Try 300 million iPhones a year by the end of 2017. This is really where we might be headed. It is a crazy number, but I suspect that 6c is going to priced at a very compelling level. Apple won't make the mistakes it made with the 5c again. Not that 5c was a bust. But it wasn't quite what Apple wanted it to be and I think that was partly the pricing level. Apple is going to want to see growth in India's billion person market and the 6c might be part of that strategy.
 
musika said:
On OLED screens, black takes less power, while white on the LED tech on current iPhones takes less power. I'd like to see them offer a 'Dark Mode' or just a black-based UI in general, like the Apple Watch.

As much as I don't like the Apple Watch, the UI is pretty cool in places, especially because it seems to blend into the black bezel quite well.
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Years ago I hoped that overlapping e-ink displays would be a big thing. So with hardly draining the battery at all a phone could display the time, notifications etc. Now I'm hoping that OLED will give us that option. A barely-backlit time in a dark black surround would be pretty neat.
 
isomorphic said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Samsung Galaxy displays "Pentile"? In which case they are undersampling certain colors (typically blue) on the display. I don't see how one can argue that any such display is "sharper" than an IPS display at equivalent resolutions. If Pentile allows Samsung to increase the resolution by more than the undersampling, then perhaps it can be sharper.

OLED probably does provide better dynamic range--and possibly color--than any backlit technology because it is emissive.
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lordofthereef said:
Your average person looks at a screen, make a judegement call on hich is subjectively better looking to them, and then uses buzzwords like "sharp", "pop", "pretty", etc. This isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but it is what it is. Plenty of people think the Galaxy line has sharper, prettier, etc. displays.
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Yes, the S screens are Pentile while the Note screens are RGB. Samsung avoids these issues by making the blue sub pixel larger than the rest, and the green smaller.

But... moving along from your quote... people make a judgement, using buzzwords, and they aren't just thinking they're better looking... they're scientifically better looking too.

This isn't meant to insult anyone, but Samsung's been popping out the most color-accurate screens with unlimited contrast ratios since the S4, only ever beating itself with each subsequent release. The S6 being nearly perfect on color accuracy and gamut.

The only weakness that's still persisting today is dynamic brightness. They still tend to get washed out in the sun.

Source: Displaymate.
 
driceman said:
Not sure if this is what you mean, but try Settings > General > Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut > Check "Invert Colors" when you click the Home Button three times.
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Thanks, but invert colors ≠ dark mode. Many apps, such as Tweetbot, Weather Underground, and even first-party apps like Maps and iBooks have proper dark modes (as well as the "Private" mode for Safari). It's partly implemented in OS X with the dark menu bar, dock and spotlight search. I'd like to see a full implementation across both operating systems, with options to automatically turn it on in the evening and even adjust the color balance to be warmer at night, much like the jailbreak app f.lux, so that the daylight balanced screen doesn't affect our circadian rhythm before bed.
 
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freddiecable said:
What is the implications on 'shorter life-span'? How much time are we talking about? Most people have their phone less than 3 years I would say. And the life span for a phone is what - 5 years? And if OLED works 5 years while LCD 10 years the effect is close to zero...
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The problem, if I recall correctly, is that each color doesn't age at the same rate. Specifically, the blue led's change rapidly which effects the "hue" of the screen.

Apple puts a ton of work into getting their displays color accurate, and I believe this issue is why they haven't adopted OLED yet. That said, from their patents, they've been doing a ton of research to resolve the issue:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...ay-for-possible-use-on-a-future-iphone-1.html


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