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jsnuff1

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The fact that none of Apples current laptops are SSD upgradable, still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022, and force 200 dollars for a 250gb upgrade is ridiculous.

1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.
 

MarkC426

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This brings to mind a recent find when sorting through old documents.
My 'PC' (before I saw the light) purchase in 1992.

What a 'huge' spec......:p

4B68FF38-AE97-4E10-BC80-80C72FD6D541.jpeg
 

NT1440

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The fact that none of Apples current laptops are SSD upgradable, still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022, and force 200 dollars for a 250gb upgrade is ridiculous.

1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.
When you actually purchase computers often, you pick up that this industry standard…
 

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jav6454

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The fact that none of Apples current laptops are SSD upgradable, still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022, and force 200 dollars for a 250gb upgrade is ridiculous.

1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.
Here is the thing, yes the prices are outrageous, but people have moved beyond localized storage.

For instance, there is no longer the need for large main drives or secondary drives for TV/movies as you can easily stream those or download the necessary ones.

Need to store documents for quick access? Google Drive, MS OneDrive, DropBox and several other are available, some even with large storage capacities on the cheap; more so if your company has cloud storage.

Media producers? NAS drives are standard for them or large external drives.

Photos and home videos? You can easily hold 10 years of those within 200GB for the average person. I for one have pictures and videos all the way back to 2006 and still use under 100GB to store those.

So in the end, large main drives have lost focus.
 

dogface1956

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I remember installing a 10MB GCC HyperDrive (the very first internal HD for the Mac, that you could boot up the mac without a special floppy disk to start up) in my Fat Mac (Mac 512K) for the about $2,200 bucks and it being the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think any upgrade I have ever done matched the performance and just basic ease of use of having the HyperDrive installed, at that time it was worth every penny.
 

exoticSpice

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Or, you can do like most people do and buy your SSD elsewhere that's priced more competitively at ~$200/2TB and upgrade it yourself. Some Lenovo models even come with two NVMe SSD slots.
Some do. Ultra books like the M2 Air on the PC side do not have two slots. The ThinkPad Nano is an ultra book and it does not have 2 slots
 

Juicy Box

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still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022
IDK, I guess I understand wanting more for less, but the starting storage size is just that, the starting storage size. Not everyone needs more than that.

For example, I was thinking of getting my wife the M2 MBA to replace her Mid 2012 MBA. She is currently getting by without issue with 64GB, so 256GB would be overkill for her. Having 512GB as the base would be double overkill, so I am glad they have an option that is lower.

Now, if the 512GB was the base storage, but the same price, I wouldn't complain, with the exception of I wished they would have a cheaper option for people that didn't need that much storage.
 

Juicy Box

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Here is the thing, yes the prices are outrageous, but people have moved beyond localized storage.
This is true, and at least there is larger storage size options available fo the people that need it.

The Apple TV 4K2, comes in only two sizes 32GB and 64GB. 32GB is more than enough for people that just do streaming, but the larger 64GB isn't enough for people that play games.

So, I am just glad that with more and more things becoming cloud based, there is still options for larger storage on the Macs.
 

mi7chy

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Here is the thing, yes the prices are outrageous, but people have moved beyond localized storage.

Highly doubtful. Cloud storage might be an alternative for 3rd tier local NAS but it's too slow and not always available to replace 1st and 2nd tiers.

1st tier - local storage
2nd tier - USB/TB connected external storage
3rd tier - local NAS
4th tier - cloud backup storage
 

sebfrey

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I remember installing a 10MB GCC HyperDrive (the very first internal HD for the Mac, that you could boot up the mac without a special floppy disk to start up) in my Fat Mac (Mac 512K) for the about $2,200 bucks and it being the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think any upgrade I have ever done matched the performance and just basic ease of use of having the HyperDrive installed, at that time it was worth every penny.
Those were the days! We bought like a 5 (10?) MB Winchester external hard drive the size of 2-3 shoe boxes for my Apple II+ in about 1982 for, I wanna say, like $1500. Inflation adjusted that would be about $4,500 in 2022 money.
 

bobcomer

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The fact that none of Apples current laptops are SSD upgradable, still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022, and force 200 dollars for a 250gb upgrade is ridiculous.

1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.
Ridiculous prices, yes, stealing, no. We choose to pay the prices, or not. Best you can say is we're stupid for paying the price. And I'm counting myself in that group even though most people here think of me as anti-apple.
 

jz0309

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The fact that none of Apples current laptops are SSD upgradable, still ship with a measly 256GB on base configs in 2022, and force 200 dollars for a 250gb upgrade is ridiculous.

1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.
Apple's prices are published, hence people buy by choice and are not getting "robbed".
You do have choices, buy external, cheap USB3 or TB3/4 for more money.
 

Zorori

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1TB drives go for under 100 bucks now, there is no way apple is not getting 1TB chips for over 50 USD. They are literally robbing people with these upgrades.

I would understand a 1TB base config and then charge 200 per extra terabyte. But 200 for an extra 256?? Seriously??

Kingston A400 240GB M.2 2280 SSD | HDD Replacement$27.99$35Kingston Shop - US

Dont understand how more people are not up in arms about Apples storage policy.

Still a rip off, but I think this is the mote appropriate SSD for comparison:


You have to be careful with SSDs, they aren’t all built the same. The model you linked is rather slow compared to what’s in the Air.

The SSD in the M1 manages ~2-4Gbps according to reviews and posts on here. The model you linked has claimed speeds of 500Mbps
 

bobcomer

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Wrong comparison since Thinkpad X1 Nano is two classes lighter at 1.99 pounds while the M2 MBA is 2.7 pounds. Thinkpad X13 at 2.6 pounds and X1 Carbon at 2.5 pounds have upgradable SSD.
and I must say the X13 is one sweet machine, at least with the ryzen processor. (my work machine) You can even replace some of the parts yourself. I love the way Lenovo makes their Thinkpad X series laptops.
 
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bobcomer

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Highly doubtful. Cloud storage might be an alternative for 3rd tier local NAS but it's too slow and not always available to replace 1st and 2nd tiers.

1st tier - local storage
2nd tier - USB/TB connected external storage
3rd tier - local NAS
4th tier - cloud backup storage
Cloud storage is pure backup, offline land for me. It's never good enough for working storage, even on my own LAN. And I have 2 NAS's. 1st tier and 2nd tier for anything I'm doing actively.
 
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