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It is all about market share, not numbers. Android is skyrocketing past iOS, as seen in the DECLINE of market share for the iPhone. A simple extrapolation of the trend lines forward tells one that there are troubles ahead for Apple. Some refuse to see it because of brand loyalty blinders firmly affixed to their heads, but Android has more momentum than does Apple. For example, more households now plan on purchasing an Android device for their next phone by a significant margin over Apple.

Apple did own the mobile space, insofar as they set the agenda for years. It was iPhone verses everyone else, and Apple cleansed their clocks. The iPhone was THE default platform for App developers, much like Windows is the default platform for almost every application or program made. However, Apple is in the process of losing this position, hence they are losing the mobile space and their agenda-setting power in it. As Android gains in market share, it will become the default platform. Later, the best and most innovative apps will be deployed on Android first and then only later on the iPhone. This will create a spiral effect, where users will begin to leave the platform in droves.

Finally, I guess I cannot challenge your 5 'ever's" I mean, I might be able to refute 2 or 3, but 5 "ever's" in a row just shows your maturity level enough to anyone who reads this to make it pointless.

Wow. I don't think anyone here would argue that Apple has as big a command of the smartphone agenda as they had for a little bit there. But that's not what you said. You said that they had lost the mobile phone market. There is a big difference. As far as extrapolating goes, it wasn't that long ago that one could look at the numbers and argue that Android was a non-starter and Apple would reign supreme... if you did a simple extrapolation.

Point is, these markets are complex places. What's happening now could have very little bearing on what will be happening a year from now. A simple extrapolation is far too simplistic an approach to hang your hat on. I'm not saying that Apple doesn't need to do something to help them maintain some significance in thus market (though I would say that even if their market share continues to slip, it would be a long time, if ever, before they became an "also ran" platform from a development standpoint, for any number of a miriad of reasons), but I don't think that they are in anywhere near as serious of trouble as you keep insinuating.

aren't numbers related to market share?

this is a genuine question i am not being sarcastic or trying to prove you wrong.

Yes and no. If I'm selling 100 widgets a year in a market where 500 widgets a year are sold, then I've got a 20% market share. If, the next year, I double my sales (yay for me!) to 200 widgets, but the market jumps to a total of 2000 widgets (four times as many), then, despite the fact that I'm selling more, my market share will have fallen to 10%. To some extent, this is the situation that Apple finds itself in. It's selling as many iPhones as it can make (so we've been told), but the smartphone market is increasing in size faster than Apple's iPhone production capacity. Thus, they are holding steady or even dropping in market share a little bit.

Now, there are markets within markets, and it might well be interesting to look at the sub-markets to really get a better understanding of this. For example, what is Apple's market share behavior in the $500+ (say, $200+ with contract) smartphone market, vs. their behavior in the <$300 (say, <$100 with contract, where there is only the iPhone 3GS from AT&T, in the US market, anyway)? As Apple has always been more of a premium product maker, and there are a lot of less expensive Android phones battling for the lower end market, where Apple doesn't really try to play, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the iPhone was still superior to Andriod phones at this point, especially since the iPhone has now been releases on Verizon.
 
CANON is going to at this event apparently, I wonder why ?
Unless they have FCStudio News - I'll be a tad bummed out if they release a 2k 5dMK3 which is rumored, I just bought the FULL FRAME 5dmk2, nearly bought the crippled APC 7D but couldn't buy a crippled camera.
 
It is all about market share, not numbers. Android is skyrocketing past iOS, as seen in the DECLINE of market share for the iPhone. A simple extrapolation of the trend lines forward tells one that there are troubles ahead for Apple. Some refuse to see it because of brand loyalty blinders firmly affixed to their heads, but Android has more momentum than does Apple. For example, more households now plan on purchasing an Android device for their next phone by a significant margin over Apple.

Apple did own the mobile space, insofar as they set the agenda for years. It was iPhone verses everyone else, and Apple cleansed their clocks. The iPhone was THE default platform for App developers, much like Windows is the default platform for almost every application or program made. However, Apple is in the process of losing this position, hence they are losing the mobile space and their agenda-setting power in it. As Android gains in market share, it will become the default platform. Later, the best and most innovative apps will be deployed on Android first and then only later on the iPhone. This will create a spiral effect, where users will begin to leave the platform in droves.

Finally, I guess I cannot challenge your 5 'ever's" I mean, I might be able to refute 2 or 3, but 5 "ever's" in a row just shows your maturity level enough to anyone who reads this to make it pointless.


The iPhone 4 is the #1 selling handset in the world (Not just smartphone). The iPhone 5 will be the next #1 selling handset in the world. Apple as a company makes 52% of the profit in the mobile phone market. Apple's share of profit in the mobile phone market has gone up every year.

On top of that, you disregard the iPod Touch and the iPad as part of the iOS market when comparing to Android. PS Apple completely dominates the paid mobile App market and that trend shows no sign of changing.

I am sure Apple is very concerned about their position in the mobile world in your fantasy land. I am fairly certain they are comfortable being the number one mobile phone manufacturer on the planet.
 
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maybe, if they preview 10.7, theyll show some lion integration with the ipad 2.

also, if the 1st gen refurbs go down in price, ill just buy one of those, especially if ipad 2 isnt impressive.
 
This. Why is everyone waiting for iOS 5?

They are probably just basing it on the fact that there has been a new iOS update every year since it came out, why would this year be different.

2007 - iOS
2008 - iOS 2
2009 - iOS 3
2010 - iOS 4
2011 - ???

See a pattern?
 
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2011 will be the year of the iDevice? I thought 2010 and 2009 were as well? Maybe even a few more before that..?
 
Yeah right........

Apple sells millions of these things with very small updates because they've brainwashed people like you with marketing campaigns. The iPad 2 will be far inferior to the specs of most othe 2011 tablet releases. This will be a ridiculously minor update.

Tony
The only company that's been able to deliver a viable tablet to the market. They deserve all your vitriol and hate, why?
 
i was so excited when i read about this today at work. next week is going to suck while i'm working and missing this event streaming online.

i really think they will make this thing available soon after the announcement. they announced it in late January last year, then it was out early april, which made sense to have the time in between so developers would have time to make apps and all that.

this time that's unnecessary, and having an event on march 2 just to say "Hey, the new ipad is coming out in a month or 2 but we thought we'd tell you about it now to take wind out of the honeycomb sails," doesn't make much sense.

this event is obviously focused on the ipad 2, so i think they'll surprise us with its features, then surprise us further with when it's available, which i think will be soon, either that day to order/preorder or a week after. i don't see what would make them wait around to order this if they are at this point announcing it and having an event focused on it.

seeing this announcement for the event makes me disbelieve every rumor i've read about this device.
 
i can see it now: they introduce facetime for the ipad 2, and they facetime steve jobs while he's at home recuperating.
 
sorry for so many posts lately in this thread, but just an observation about ipad 2 coming out sooner than later:

Although March 2nd will be the introduction date for the iPad 2, it could actually become available at any time thereafter. Once Apple puts the iPad 2 in the spotlight, sales of the original iPad will tank immediately, so don’t expect there to be a gap of more than a week or two at the most. Possibly quite a bit less

—from beatweek
 
So, a fairly obvious hint that this is the new iPad in the picture. And we also notice the only icon that is visible is the Maps icon. Something new with maps? Apple rolling out their own service?

I sure hope so... or really I just mean that I'd love to see Maps get some more functionality.

I'd love to be able to drop and save pins, for example. Make notes on certain locations. Plus, I hate that the maps aren't pre-loaded. You should be able to set a range that stays stored in the iPad (for those who grumble its too much to save it all), like City, State, Time Zone, Country, or other save level. I hate that sometimes my 3G coverage is sketch (or damned slow) and I'm waiting for a map to load up.
 
A more detailed look at 10.7 (Lion) on March 2nd would be great, along with features of iOS 5 (presumably). If the new Macbook Pros are announced next week along with the iPad, and the aforementioned software, it will get tails wagging!:p
 
wondering if the boxed shipments heading to retailers could possibly be the new ipad 2 after all after reading today's news about the march 2 event..

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also, on this image, why is the upper right corner have the gray shade over it? maybe they'll pull back this cover and it'll show a retina display??? eh, eh?? haha
 
The Thunderbolt connector is too large for an iPad. The connector is thicker than USB which won't fit on the current iPad. Future iPads will be even thinner. How will they solve this one?

Thunderbolt has 20 pins - they could run Thunderbolt over the existing dock connector and maintain backwards compatibility with the huge installed base of dock connector devices.

How else could they solve it?
 
Big iPad: obvious.
"Come see what 2011 will be the year of": ...year of the Lion. Yes, 2011 is the year of the rabbit, but I think the allusion is supposed to be to an animal.

iPad 2 and some more info (and maybe a launch date) for Lion.

I wouldn't expect too much from this, I think it'll be a relatively small event. Or, at least, only one or two solid things will come from it, rather than a whole bunch of cool little things.
 
Big iPad: obvious.
"Come see what 2011 will be the year of": ...year of the Lion. Yes, 2011 is the year of the rabbit, but I think the allusion is supposed to be to an animal.

iPad 2 and some more info (and maybe a launch date) for Lion.

I wouldn't expect too much from this, I think it'll be a relatively small event. Or, at least, only one or two solid things will come from it, rather than a whole bunch of cool little things.

i dunno, they aren't releasing lion until the summer. so it would be more like the half year (maybe even four months) of the lion, so i doubt it's that.

the first thing i thought of when i read the teaser on the invite was how the media in 2010 for tech basically called the ipad the device of the year, the year of the ipad, all that stuff praising how great the ipad was and how well it did. so i think that apple is trying to say this year will be the year of the ipad 2, which i think means this will be better than just an update, it'll be another game-changer, worthy of the praise of the year of the ipad 2, at least in apple's collective mind.

i still think it's possible they release some kind of iOS that's a little more tablet-focused, like how honeycomb is to the android tablets. i really hope they show something like this on march 2. i can see the ipad 2 launching in the next couple weeks, then the tablet-focused iOS launching in the next few months?
 
ATV Thunder

I have not heard any mention of the ATVThunder settings since Lightpeak has started being referred to as Thunderbolt. Perhaps if the iPad 2 has Light Peak there will be some integration with Apple TV for gaming.

This year should be all about Apps for ATV and possibly games. There will of course be a new iPad and various hardware refresh, but the next big thing is an ONLIVE style game service.
 
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