Well, you didn't give it time before proclaiming nefariousness.
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Apple Issues Takedown Order for Popular YouTube Channel That Archived WWDC Keynotes
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Since their legal department historically can NEVER win against Google and Microsoft for copying IP, they might as well go after the small fish and pretend they've won something.
Oh really? Did I previously hate the company?
Or do you mean the company that I previously liked/loved was never what I thought it was?
If so, what do you think I thought it was?
It would be nice to think your post was a comical play on 'you're holding it wrong'. But, this being 2022...
But his You Tube channel is getting ad hits/revenue for content he didn’t create. No different than hosting your own channel for the “Marvel Universe” content and making money off of it. He could create his own content host all day - but he may find he isn’t as popular. Always interesting that people think it is ok to steal content/copyrighted material if it belongs to a big company. But if he were showing some small-time creator’s work, it would then be considered wrong.
That's why the current designers are leaving; they don't want to go bald from the stress of trying to satisfy MR members. 🤣
No, I'm saying I believe you may be looking at the company in the past through some filters.
But when you say this:
I disagree.
The debunked "Apple is greedy" meme.
1. Apple drops the price of Logic from $1,500+ to $200 WITH FREE updates.
2. Considering all costs, Apple hardware is cheaper than knockoffs and wannabes.
3. Free 4K updates for iTunes users costing Apple BILLIONS in revenue for the sake of the customer.
4. Free updates on damn near everything!
5. Apple Music the only service paying artists a decent pay.
6. A charitable tech company.
7. Losing BILLIONS for the sake of the environment.
8. Losing about a TRILLION for the sake of customer privacy.
Those were just off the top of my head. Go ahead and add more.
A guy down the street is hanging posters about my shop and people stop by the store to look up those posters and by
i asked about being “right” and you answered about being “in the right”, which clearly has a different meaning. So this is obviously not an honest debate and is thus going nowhere. I shall now retire.
It's irrelevant to the law if it was "right". The YTer violated the law. And yes, the above is disingenuos.
“Nefariousness is why I wake up in the morning! If I don’t proclaim Apple’s nefarious acts at least 7 times before lunch, … then what is life for?” /s
Apple took down the original AirPods ads.
Those were the most beautiful ads in Apple history. Can't find them now...
Those were the most beautiful ads in Apple history. Can't find them now...
I guess they knew what they were doing all along.
Is he not showing videos of public events, quick question, is Joe Six Pack allowed to film these events in person? Do you even know if he is showing ads on these videos?
And yes, the end of your post is called nuance, a billion or trillion dollar company vs. a struggling artist, there are differences.
These are public interest educational videos, there is no reason why Apple should give two f**** about them, but again, look to Laurene Powell Jobs, she wants every audio and video of Steve Jobs taken down, everywhere.
It’s not a public event if the people have to be from an exclusive subset of people. Such as developers. It’s only public if anyone can enter without restriction.
There is no difference if it’s a company or an artist. Copyright is copyright.
I have no idea what a "public interest educational video" means. Are you saying that because the public are interested, it should be Public Domain video?
True but with no statement and really nothing from the uploader …
Why on earth has it taken Apple sooo long to even think about, let alone act upon it?
Hmmm. Easier to think nefarious ideals than anything positive giving such a long long long length of time.
I mean Apple didn’t wait too long to attack Pear, Inc regarding the similar pear logo resembling Apple’s logo.
Is he showing HIS videos? (hint, that’s a rhetorical question) The venue Apple recorded the content in, public or private, is not relevant - he did not create the content. And the use of someone else’s content or work without permission or license is an infringement on the owner’s rights - struggling or not - no “nuance” about it. If you think it is OK to steal from a department store, but not the struggling artist, you're still a thief. Your idea of “nuance” is simply personal justification that it is alright to take from some, and not from others.
Maybe because they were about to release the "Ask Apple" Developer program and the videos are
- officially outdated,
- not in line with current practice and
- not the direction they want to deal with developer programming.
What?
That’s developer program to ask Apple has nothing to do with old wwdc videos.
Many developers have apps that do NOT use the latest API’s nor need to be updated to do so as many legacy apis function just fine on older iPhones that may be vintage or 4-5yrs old.
Example.
Do you think the iOS version of Karateka NEEDS the lastrar iOS API’s?!
No it doesn’t. Still works on iPhone 14 Pro on iOS 16.1 as well as iPhone 13 mini same iOS version or iOS 12 on iPhone SE OG! No difference in performance or very noticeable load time differences.
The Ask Apple Developer program via an app or online can still co-exist. Older WWDC videos can still exists on the web as they’re time stamped! What developer would think WWDC news from 2007 still applies today?!
Did you just say that the Developer Program has nothing to do with the World Wide Developers Conference? Sure, one is a conference and the other is the method by which Apple wants to move forward. But they certainly have a nexus.
Isn't it Apple's point to have Developers update their apps to the latest standards?
It can't be asked in the Ask Apple Developer program? Wouldn't the latest "best practice" be to get the best information from the Dragons Den?
Why is it needed then?
What I have written is just a view that Apple is moving in a certain direction, and has a program that they wish to support. By removing the WWDC videos, Apple is playing the game by its own rules. I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying what I see from the sidelines. I'm just asking the question. I'm not an App Developer and just an onlooker of what Apple is doing.
Not in a legal sense, just in a sense Apple is not going to make any relevant money off these videos, the brand can't be harmed by these videos, they are there for tech nerds and researchers.
Come on, you are talking about theft in black and white terms here, if you go by the letter of the law, everyone is breaking the law at multiple times in their lives, at one point, heck it still might be technically, it was considered against the law to record movies off HBO for home use, was that ever theft?
You can call me a thief for uploading a 1985 Mac Apple commercial or a 1984 Steve Jobs Mac keynote event, or the other day I was watching a 2002 Paul McCartney concert on Youtube, it was uploaded by a random Youtube user, call it theft but in reality the guy who did it is no thief, McCartney is worth hundreds of millions and he simply won't care about nickels made on this concert relic, hey, maybe even the struggling artist won't care if his or her name is getting out there from the so called thief.
But if McCartney's team reaches out to the Youtube user and takes down the video, so be it, don't do it again, but nobody should feel like a thief or bad about it.
If you don't think there is a moral difference between stealing a candy bar or hundreds of millions like Madoff, well, I can't help you.
I used to record music off the radio, was that theft, in your eyes, probably, but again, I guarantee you have committed crimes in your life, you have driven over the speed limit, but there is a good chance you are a fine upstanding citizen, Bernie Madoff is a pure evil scumbag, the candy bar thief should not do that, but an arch criminal he is not.
And the WWDC uploader is not some moral reprobate. In certain cases the economic impact of uploading said videos could benefit Apple more than the pennies made by the Youtuber, people here I'm sure understand that you make garbage money off Youtube unless you are in the stratosphere of views, hey, maybe even Googe are thieves, has CBS/NBC/FOX given them permission to allow people to upload tons of vintage content from those stations.
Google claims they takedown pirated videos, but do a Youtube search and you will find endless links to pirated sites of top shows/movies, is Google really doing such a great job or looking the other way to profit off the pirates in an off handed way.
How much code did Jobs steal from Gates to create their early OS, damn thieves.
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You're talking different things. Recording an HBO movie and then watching it from home may have been technically illegal, but take that same recording and play it in a movie theater and make money from it, is an entirely level of illegal.
Youtube is still bound by the laws of the locales it operates in. And copyright theft is copyright theft.
Feeling bad is irrelevant.
In the eyes of the Bible, theft is theft. But in 2022 stealing a candy bar is a vastly different scenario than bilking investors to the tune of billions. You are arguing about morality which is not what this is about.
You are arguing being technically illegal vs using a tech platform to monetize content you don't own. It's a vastly different level.
I call ******** on this. As a third party, you cannot justify what Apple may or may not make in revenue with the fact that the content was not in the public domain.
Throw the baby out with the bath water? Because there is one youtube video that shouldn't be there it doesn't mean all should be allowed.
I can guarantee you, anything Jobs "stole" was not actually stolen. It was either ideas that couldn't be patented or copyrighted or patented ideas that were paid for. Copying an idea that is not copyrighted is not stealing.