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Apple iWork - Now in 3D?
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You should rephrase that into I wouldn't rely on any Apple first gen software. I mean really can someone name me a first gen Apple product be it software or hardware that wasn't glitchy as heck? iTunes 1.0? 10.0? Aperature 1.0? iPhoto 1.0? iAnything 1.0? IMHO Apple does A LOT of testing of their software on release. A little too much IMHO.
I keep talking this up a lot but I really believe in public release candidates. As much as people love to bitch about MS they catch a LOT of their bugs via these release candidates. Vista for all of its flaws is basically the equivalent of Apple's 10.0. We all know what kinda of growing pains OS X had between 10.0 -> .1 -> .2 I'm 100% certain that the reason why Vista isn't buggier then it is is because it was open to the masses to download and try. Which in return resulted in a crap load of data being returned via their error reporting service.
If Apple did the same I'm certain you wouldn't be seeing x.y releases within 2 months of a new release.
getting p.o.'d with apple
after waiting forever to hear about leopard's 'secret' features (which were not that fantastc anyway) not a word about ilife and iwork. as mentioned by european telcos, apple has become incredibly arrogant. jobs seems to think apple fans will put up with any b.s. his company comes up with. unfortunately windows vista sucks, but I have been checking out ubuntu linux and can say that it offers everything the average casual computer user needs.
after waiting forever to hear about leopard's 'secret' features (which were not that fantastc anyway) not a word about ilife and iwork. as mentioned by european telcos, apple has become incredibly arrogant. jobs seems to think apple fans will put up with any b.s. his company comes up with. unfortunately windows vista sucks, but I have been checking out ubuntu linux and can say that it offers everything the average casual computer user needs.
3D? In an office application? Hmm. Does this mean we are going to get some beautiful looking pie charts?
Yep! On the iPhone!
Wishful thinking, but hey, it could happen! After all it;s not a 3rd-party app!To my recollection the first version of Keynote was not bad. Short on some features but I don't recall a lot of bugs. The ppt export was perhaps a little buggy. Was iTunes buggy in the beginning? Cyberdog? TextEdit? Garageband?
3D could be interesting. For example, it could add the element of time to measurements taken on a sample. A classic SEM/EDS is observation of Na ions fading away and then reappearing in the microprobe analysis of glass.
As far as 3D goes, I'd be happy if Apple would make Keynote support QTVR.
As others have pointed out, this hiring is likely to impact next year's iWork, not the one we hope to see in October (or earlier).
i don't see how 3D is going into iWork, but it sounds cool nonetheless. i just hope we see iWork and iLife soon
Generally when Apple does something, it does it right. Given that Microsoft is the leader in productivity software for the desktop, I can totally see Apple upstaging Microsoft with a completely rethought and reworked office suite that blows Microsoft Office out of the water. Apple can do it. It just needs the motivation.
I am not a huge fan of Microsoft. I just bought a new PC notebook for 3 reasons. 1) The price for the quality and performance was very good. 2) I needed a way to run Windows and did not own a copy to run on my iMac and last 3) I figured I already had a modern Intel Mac so I might as well try a PC for a notebook.
With that said, After running Vista Business (which came preloaded) all I can say is that it is ok. Even with 1GB of RAM running on a Core Duo 1.86 Ghz it can bog down at times. Granted another gig of RAM would help, but those are decent specs for a notebook. Vista looks pretty and works ok, but feels SO much slower then Mac OSX.
In fact the only software that I will pat Microsoft on the back for is Office for Mac. When you say that Apple can easily upstage Microsoft I can honestly believe your statement after running OSX and Vista. To upstage Office, however, which I think is an excellent, very mature and developed product they should have started years ago. iWork has been a very mediocre effort up to this point. Sales of the software has been poor and even Apple admitted to that. Unless something big changes I just don't see people who really need a great office productivity suite dumping Office for Mac off their computers and going with iWork.
Do you think that iWork and MS Office are aimed at the same people?
I use both, MS Office at work and iWork at home. For home use I just could not afford Office and I would not use all the features. iWork at home just about makes it for me, although I need a spreadsheet.
I would guess that many home users also think MS Office is too expensive for them and/or to complicated.
I will be glad to watch iWork grow year on year into a more complete suite but I don't need something as fancy as MS Office.
Well I wonder if am in the minority then because I use MS Office at work and at home. I like knowing that I can send things back and forth from my Mac at home to the PC at school and not worry about any issues on the other end.
not sure if anyones said this..
coverflow in iwork..being able to flip through pages of ur documents rather than scrolling?
or 3D toolbars with heightened capabilities over the existent 2D toolbars?
im no software engineer so dont go shooting me down for such "stupid ideas" but thast just my $0.02
coverflow in iwork..being able to flip through pages of ur documents rather than scrolling?
or 3D toolbars with heightened capabilities over the existent 2D toolbars?
im no software engineer so dont go shooting me down for such "stupid ideas" but thast just my $0.02
Um...they will probably get started on it sometime after they are done with the iPhone. Remember everyone had to work on the iPhone a couple of months ago.
Seriously though I would expect the next iLife to come when 10.5 comes. That is my best guess.
Ummm... for the people commenting, "if they're just getting started now..."
Perhaps whomever was working on it before might have just given notice, or maybe they need a little more programming effort in addition to the people already working on it. It's really hard to say at all with so little.
Perhaps whomever was working on it before might have just given notice, or maybe they need a little more programming effort in addition to the people already working on it. It's really hard to say at all with so little.
Might look at NeoOffice. I will say that, for my use, I would never miss Pages. However, I can not even think about going back to PowerPoint after using Keynote. It would be like looking into the sun---you just don't do it.
Apple's iWork suite is a bit overdue for an update. Many expected Apple to update the iWork suite on its usual schedule in January of 2007... but no update arrived.
People then speculated that Apple would release iWork (and iLife) updates alongside Leopard, but Steve Jobs made no comment about the productivity suites during the WWDC keynote.
A new job posting posted by Apple on June 13th 2007 reveals that Apple is seeking software engineers for the "next generation of iWork". Specifically, they are looking for a programmer to work on 3D specific features with experience in "openGL and other 3d technologies".
Apple's iWork suite currently consists of Pages and Keynote but there have been persistent rumors of a spreadsheet application in the works.
hire me
i'm working on a "everything 3D OS"
oops too late guys !, u did not want me because i don't live in the USA.
haha !
that depends of what kind of screen u are using, and, 3D can be useful, even if u don't have a 3D screen (see games etc...)
ugh...I just want iWork now, please.
The top secret features were notably absent from WWDC. The dock and new-look finder are not revolutionary, sorry. They're helpful and cool and look amazing, but not "top secret" worthy more so than anything else.
Jobs did not mention the new i-suites, but in one of the recent quarterly earnings calls we were told to expect them soon! Granted, this was when Leopard was pegged to be released at WWDC, but doesn't it time the updates with October's OS upgrade?
There must be an event for Leopard's release in October. There just has to be. They wouldn't release exceptional upgrades to the i-suites with only a press release!
-=|Mgkwho
The top secret features were notably absent from WWDC. The dock and new-look finder are not revolutionary, sorry. They're helpful and cool and look amazing, but not "top secret" worthy more so than anything else.
Jobs did not mention the new i-suites, but in one of the recent quarterly earnings calls we were told to expect them soon! Granted, this was when Leopard was pegged to be released at WWDC, but doesn't it time the updates with October's OS upgrade?
There must be an event for Leopard's release in October. There just has to be. They wouldn't release exceptional upgrades to the i-suites with only a press release!
-=|Mgkwho
why limit the 3D to charts, that's so short sighted, the whole computer should be 3D (mine is), walk around in your data, "visit" a spreadsheet, no "fake" 3D buttons (like the red orange and green buttons), but all realtime 3D, etc...
isn't it time for something really completely new ?
i love leopard, but it's still the same old stuff, perfected to an astonishing level, but old.
Leopard, is, or should be, the last second generation (GUI) OS.
but a new os is not just about 3D (at all), its about getting rid of applications and private document formats for ever.
what i want (and have), is tools (pencil, airbrush, scissors, text), materials (paper, wood, stone, metal), shapes (cubes, rectangles, spheres, arcs, lines, dots, etc...), and more complex (user made, or built in) objects, made by combining any of the above.
i't's really time to get rid of applications, and software company's altogether, all they are doing is exercise power by making something simple seem complicated.
Huh? On what do you base this? Keynote is absolutely fantastic. Pages I don't know much about as I don't use it. iWeb is OK but I am not a strong user so won't comment too much on this. Did you see some sales figures somewhere or are you just making this up?
It would be fantastic if they released iLife and iWork with Leopard, but I'm betting on an '08 appearance. What a lame year this is for Apple.
I really didn't want to be one of those haters who blames everything on the iPhone, but it truly seems to be the sole reason that Apple's teams haven't had the time to develop new software, or new desktops for that matter.
I really didn't want to be one of those haters who blames everything on the iPhone, but it truly seems to be the sole reason that Apple's teams haven't had the time to develop new software, or new desktops for that matter.
