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Apple iWork - Now in 3D?

dwater said:
SGI had such software back in the '90s. IRIS Showcase it was called. Decades ahead of it's time...
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And I still run it on my trusty blue O2.

Awesome program. Very Mac-like too - it uses Inspectors heavily (though they are called 'gadgets' in Irix-speak). I wonder if SGI will ever opensource it... They have retired Irix already, so it would make sense to them to do so.
 
kcroy said:
I need a new iWeb app right away. I love the simplicity, but I need this puppy to do more. (HTML, shopping cart, etc.) I know a lot of people make fun of iwebbers like me, but the simplicity of creating webpages is really great for non-programmer like myself. Please, please, Steve update iweb.
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That's what I'm 'talkin about. I want an iWeb update as well!
 
flopticalcube said:
They are starting to look for a software engineer now? Sounds like this is for iWork '08 or '09.
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Precisely my thoughts. If they're abandoning the yearly updates they should just tell everyone. It's getting so far into 2007 that it's barely worth releasing an 07 product if they release it now. Recruiting software engineers now will surely be for products released next year.

Mind you, they really do need to add some major functionality to the iWork software. I tried Pages instead of Word, and unfortunately had to go back to Word due to lack of Pages functionality.
 
Probably just a decoy ad...

Just like Apple to post an ad in their online job application site for a 3d iWork programmer. This smacks of press release leak to me.

For all we know they may have several people working on 3d integration for iWork and maybe they need another person. It's not likely that they would hire 1 new person and then turn them loose to upgrade iWork. I mean, come on people, let's use some common sense here...
 
Looks like they're skipping a year

This is somewhat of a bummer. I was looking forward to iLife and iWork 2007, but my guess is that they'll be back on track at MacWorld Jan 2008.

That's ok I guess. I wonder what kind of schedule they'll have for iPhone updates?!?
 
It just seems a bit like a dimension in search of problems.

I love Keynote, but couldn't care less about any additional transition effects in future versions. They’re a bit like the upcoming “30 professionally designed stationery templates that make a virtual keepsake out of every email you send.”

I’m not saying these sorts of directions shouldn’t be pursued. As many of you have pointed out, such functionality may or may not help them sell whatever it is; it’s just that for me it’s totally useless.
 
Maybe it's for iWork 07 or 08.
Maybe it's for the next version.
Maybe it's only a replacement for a guy leaving his job.

For me the important notice is they are working on iWork, I was thinking Apple had lost interest in this app.
 
The primary use of 3D visualisations would be for graphs generated by a spreadsheet application.

Especially if you were exporting them to Keynote which would then animate the 3D graphs, possibly interactively (click on a pie segment to zoom in, or pull it from the pie, or highlight subdivisions within, etc), or static animations (rotations around a bar chart, etc).

I'm sure that there are other good uses too of course. OpenGL is not necessarily about 3D graphics, it can be used for 2D functions as well - Quartz in Mac OS X Jaguar and later being a prime example.
 
Spread too thin?

Does anyone have even a general ideal of staffing at Micro$oft compared to Apple?

My thought is this. While Apple has always been on the edge of tech in what they do they have gotten themselves into too may unrelated products which thins out their talent pool and quite possibly Steve's attention span.

Over the past few years look at the items which have pretty much gone neglected or have not been updated as often as they should have even if just minor updates.

iWeb
.mac
Pages
Keynote
Logic <--- This one is an embarrassment

While I love to see Apple expanding into different areas, they need to understand that for good or bad, Apple users have come to expect and demand continual evolution on their productions keeping them ahead of the pack.

iWeb, while a nice easy to use web designer is missing come critical items that most site now have. And for God's sake why can't you set the number on the counter?! If you've just transitioned a site from something else to a iWeb site, why would you want the counter to start over?

The one app that either Apple needs to update or sell to someone who will is Logic. Compared to other audio packages on the market, Logic is the most difficult to just jump in and use. Enough with the cut and paste loop software (garageband & soundtrack). This is a pro app right along Final Cut so they need to either bring it up to date or cut it loose. But right now it's sad just watching it die under Apple's watch.
 
b3beater said:
Does anyone have even a general ideal of staffing at Micro$oft compared to Apple?

My thought is this. While Apple has always been on the edge of tech in what they do they have gotten themselves into too may unrelated products which thins out their talent pool and quite possibly Steve's attention span.

Over the past few years look at the items which have pretty much gone neglected or have not been updated as often as they should have even if just minor updates.

iWeb
.mac
Pages
Keynote
Logic <--- This one is an embarrassment

While I love to see Apple expanding into different areas, they need to understand that for good or bad, Apple users have come to expect and demand continual evolution on their productions keeping them ahead of the pack.

iWeb, while a nice easy to use web designer is missing come critical items that most site now have. And for God's sake why can't you set the number on the counter?! If you've just transitioned a site from something else to a iWeb site, why would you want the counter to start over?

The one app that either Apple needs to update or sell to someone who will is Logic. Compared to other audio packages on the market, Logic is the most difficult to just jump in and use. Enough with the cut and paste loop software (garageband & soundtrack). This is a pro app right along Final Cut so they need to either bring it up to date or cut it loose. But right now it's sad just watching it die under Apple's watch.
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Maybe, Logic is getting the same treatment that Shake is getting. Apple bought Shake, put it in their product lineup, killed the PC version and are now rebuilding to a higher quality product that might see daylight in 2008, and that probably integrates seamlessly with FC Studio, and the Intel multi-core roadmap, and maybe even some multitouch.

iLife and iWork have to wait for Leopard, and I suspect even a later release at MWSF 2008 won't be a huge burden on anyone.

Patience.
 
Maybe the iWork 3D interface will be space-like with moving stars and comets. Maybe Leopard will have the space interface too and that could be one of Leopards most kept secret features.
 
I hope it recieves an update soon because I hate using a microsoft product on my mac and iWork as it is currently doesn't compair
 
kcroy said:
I need a new iWeb app right away. I love the simplicity, but I need this puppy to do more. (HTML, shopping cart, etc.) I know a lot of people make fun of iwebbers like me, but the simplicity of creating webpages is really great for non-programmer like myself. Please, please, Steve update iweb.
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I can only see this relating to iWork in one of three ways (in order of probability):

1) there will be no iWork this year: if they're just hiring now, even if development has been underway for quite some time, adding new developers only makes sense early in the project.

2) iWork and iLife are done (mostly) and will be released with Leopard in October, so this hire is for the *next* next generation of iWork development.

3) this is a decoy ad designed to give the impression that they're nowhere near finished with iWork development, so everyone will be stunned with the unexpected release of a fantastic new suite in October.

Cheers.
 
JPyre said:
CoreImage/Video in keynote would be nice, so would scrolling through multi-page docs in 3D. Maybe they just need someone to add coverflow :rolleyes: to the open/save dialog, but thats a leopard feature and they wouldn't add that because Tiger couldn't use it, would they?

[Update] I guess iTunes has it but not in the open/save, does Leopard extend coverflow into it? I was assuming that it did.
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I'd like to see some Core Animation stuff. I'm imagining a situation where you place objects on your slide, and then select as many as you want to move and press a button. You get a second copy of the slide where you move all of them around, or delete them, or whatever you want to do. And then core animation takes care of the rest. As you press the "next slide" button during your presentation, all the objects just move around or fade away or whatever. It would be really handy for "before and after" type slides which personally, I have to do a lot of.

be well

t
 
martijn.s said:
isn't it time for something really completely new ?

i love leopard, but it's still the same old stuff, perfected to an astonishing level, but old.

Leopard, is, or should be, the last second generation (GUI) OS.

but a new os is not just about 3D (at all), its about getting rid of applications and private document formats for ever.

what i want (and have), is tools (pencil, airbrush, scissors, text), materials (paper, wood, stone, metal), shapes (cubes, rectangles, spheres, arcs, lines, dots, etc...), and more complex (user made, or built in) objects, made by combining any of the above.

i't's really time to get rid of applications, and software company's altogether, all they are doing is exercise power by making something simple seem complicated.
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Leopard does move more into this direction with quick look. And the idea wouldn't be completely new--it reminds me of the lisa, document focused, rather than application focused. And we still need developers to make stuff--its not all smoke and mirrors, maybe the OS could handle all the file types, but the developers would still develop plugins--we need software companies, to suggest that they are unnecessary is insulting to a whole industry and people who really care about what they do.
 
ajhaji said:
Generally when Apple does something, it does it right. Given that Microsoft is the leader in productivity software for the desktop, I can totally see Apple upstaging Microsoft with a completely rethought and reworked office suite that blows Microsoft Office out of the water. Apple can do it. It just needs the motivation. :p
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And that is the problem, motivation. Apple really hasn't put much effort into making decent word processing or spreadsheet since they dissolved their claris subsidiary. It might not have the cool factor that making your own song, movie, or keynote presentation might have, but as a hobbyist writer, it's infinitely more useful to me.
 
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