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Take a look at the products that replace nothing like the Apple TV and see how they've fared. Apple's most successful products have replaced something you already had. The iPhone replaced your phone/smartphone, the touch replaced the PDA, the iPod replaced your CD collection and the Mac replaced your substandard Windows machine.

Dude, you totally didn't get my point. Of course I'm aware that there were MP3 players before the iPod and cellphones before the iPhone. My point is that a newly introduced Apple tablet would not be a replacement for an existing product. It would be slightly overlapping in abilities, but not a replacement for the MBA, MB or MBP..
 
Seriously, the Web is already here, it's already ubiquitous and has all the same articles, ads, features a magazine has and could have in a digital format. It makes no sense.

The financing model is slightly different. That in the end changes the experience for the user. Articles are generally of better quality in print than elsewhere.

In addition e-magazines or whatever they would be called would be available off-line, and the web is not and I have yet to encounter an effective and satisfying way to browse off-line.
 
Except that the post you responded to didn't say that at all. Someone insisted that this product would replace the MBA, and he disagreed. Is that so hard to understand?
To answer your question, yes, that is so hard to understand. Here's why: If he was responding to another post, he owed it to everyone else to QUOTE them so there'd be no misunderstanding. There's this little icon next to every post that says QUOTE with an even small pen/paper icon next to it. USE IT, people... I don't have time to read ever single post nor should I be expected to do so.

I agree with him (now that I know the full story [even without him quoting the person he wanted to offer his retort to]) -- Anyone who thinks that this will replace a laptop completely is a fool. The tablet will simply augment one's computer life. There will be a lot of occasions however, where people will grab the tablet other than their MBA, MacBook or whatever, knowing full well that the tablet will suffice during the few hours they'll be out.

That being said, I've seen dozens and dozens of people who are M$ trolls or people that, for whatever reason, don't even like the idea that Apple is going to release this. To them I say: go piss in somebody else's lemonade. You're not spoiling mine.

Obviously you aren't understanding the conversation that was taking place. Someone claimed the tablet would replace the Macbook Air, the guy you responded to told him why it wouldn't.

But to answer your question, a lot of nay-sayers (I am one) understand very well that because the tablet wouldn't answer our needs, it doesn't mean someone doesn't need it.

What we are saying, based on observation of the market, is that tablets in general, be them general purpose tablets or laptops with swivel screens, just aren't making inroads on the market. They are a small niche. The fact is, they have all the cons of both the PDA and the laptop, and don't have too many pros to outweight them and consumers are voting with their wallet on this one.

Tablets fit in between a laptop on a PDA. However, they aren't more portable than a laptop really. While they are smaller, they still require a bag of some sort you'll have to drag around, risk losing, getting stolen, or simply forgetting somewhere. They still require 2 hands to handle.

On the other side, they have mostly PDA like functionality (unless you count the WinXP tablets) like a rumored iPhone OS based tablet would have. Quick apps that can do quick things like listening to music, viewing a video or previewing a document, but not full content creation/editing capabilities and limited input like a full laptop offers.

And that's why they aren't catching on, the market isn't very big for laptop portability problems with PDA power.

E-readers on the other hand seem to be a good revenue maker. However, they have a low cost associated with their single use capabilities. If Apple does do a e-reader only tablet, on the cheap, this might be a good competitor to the Nook or Kindle and tied with the iTunes Book Store, this could be a worthwhile product. But a general purpose tablet like the Nokia N810 or the Samsung Q1 ? Not seeing it being more popular than the Apple TV was after the initial hype has died down.

Thank you for letting me in on the situation, too -- yours, of course, with more class than "milo" -- I think until we actually see the device and see how app store for Slate goes, I think it is pure conjecture to decide whether it will pass or fail.
 
Yup. As I suspected. Only a handful of posts before the anti-FoxNews rhetoric began. Seriously, some people really DO need to get out more. I hope you do. :rolleyes:

agree.

forums are the most popular place to be pretty much anti- or pro- everything and anything - esp since there will always be some bystanders to encourage the behavior.

it is quite amusing to see people make blatantly ignorant statements in order to align themselves with suspected "popular" opinion at the time...
 
My thoughts...:rolleyes:

-New Tablet,
-Tablet runs iPhone OS 4.0
-iPod Touch Camera

screen of the tablet will be just wide enough for a "full-sized' keyboard when it pops up like on the iPhone.

1080p resolution for the tablet, like they changed the iMac so there is no black bars on the top and bottom like on the iPhone and MacBook

My Wish..

-iWork/iLife, web based, and runs on iPhone OS 4.0...(altho it would probably run off MobileMe...subscription needed)
Thus making the Tablet still not a full feature laptop but all the basics are covered and it would still have the over 100,000 apps. :D
if this is so, the Tablet would run larger more powerful games...I mean apps. :cool:

-iTunes web based, to save space on iPhone and Tablet, and so people like me will not be restricted by Hard Drive space (seeing as all movies, music, tv series combined is more then 1.5 TB)

-Update to TV...hopefully

Can't wait to see what the Surprise is!!! :)
 
To answer your question, yes, that is so hard to understand. Here's why: If he was responding to another post, he owed it to everyone else to QUOTE them so there'd be no misunderstanding. There's this little icon next to every post that says QUOTE with an even small pen/paper icon next to it. USE IT, people... I don't have time to read ever single post nor should I be expected to do so.

I agree with him (now that I know the full story [even without him quoting the person he wanted to offer his retort to]) -- Anyone who thinks that this will replace a laptop completely is a fool. The tablet will simply augment one's computer life. There will be a lot of occasions however, where people will grab the tablet other than their MBA, MacBook or whatever, knowing full well that the tablet will suffice during the few hours they'll be out.

Totally agree on all points. I don't buy what that Daring Fireball guy said. I can't imagine they would replace the newly redesigned Macbook with a tablet.
 
Totally agree on all points. I don't buy what that Daring Fireball guy said. I can't imagine they would replace the newly redesigned Macbook with a tablet.

That's not what gruber said. He said it's a replacement in the same sense Mac replaced apple ][. If you recall that took years and was not forced on the consumer - eventually people stopped buying apple ][s.
 
Blimey!!

I make one passing observation about the validity of reporting from Murdochs media empire and all hell breaks loose. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty much right of centre and being British, cynicism is part of my DNA. I'm also something of an empeiricist so I like to have more than just one source of evidence. So I would never blindly take the word of just one source as gospal.

I was merely making the point that if Murdoch told me something, I'd not likely believe it till another source confirmed it. His papers and TV stations around the world have been caught telling porkys or worse, half truths, for me to take anything from his organisation seriously. Just wiki The Hilter Diaries to see what I'm on about.
 
I was merely making the point that if Murdoch told me something, I'd not likely believe it till another source confirmed it. His papers and TV stations around the world have been caught telling porkys or worse, half truths, for me to take anything from his organisation seriously. Just wiki The Hilter Diaries to see what I'm on about.

All papers and TV stations do this. They broadcast the news to make money. And making money is usually more important than accurately broadcasting the news.

It would be foolish to distrust Murdoch's news outlets and not distrust the others. In the U.S., Fox News merely serves as a foil to MSNBC, CBS, Time magazine etc.

All news reporting is biased.
 
That's true however I wanted to add the possibility of a MultiSim card - but didn't know if they are common in the US? Can you get a multisim from AT&T for example?

Here in Germany I can get a multisim + additional sim cards from O2 which are all connected to just one mobile contract. But you can use them all at the same time. So for example you can have your main sim card which you put in your iPhone, a second card is for your MacBook and maybe a third sim card for your SMS only business phone (just an example). You can exactly define which card does what, for example card 1: phone+data, card 2 only data, card 3 only phone. But all 3 cards are conntected to your one and only mobile contract.

Is there such a thing in the US too?

Yeah, good luck trying to get big US corporations to adopt/offer anything to make consumers' lives easier. From my experience, having lived in both Europe and the US, whereas the US does produce great technology, we tend to lag Europe and Asia when it comes to widespread adoption of the latest technology. I think part of the problem is that the US government provides far less, if any, leadership at the adoption stage, since it still believes that the "market" will force corporations to do what's in the public good (yeah, right...).
 
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