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I'm really excited about this as I'm looking to buy an ebook reader so plan to hold off now until the end of January, however...

Is it going to be a tablet that displays PDFs or is it going to be an ebook reader? They're certainly not the same thing...

I don't see how they can make an ebook reader that doesn't use eInk. And I can't see how the can create this multimedia tablet without using a real screen.
Evidently the Pixel Qi technology provides easy readability in full sunlight and supports video and full color. Whether the quality lives up to Apple's very high standards remains to be seen.
 
I'll eat my hat if they put Snow Leopard on it. Not only do I not think it will happen, but I don't want it to happen. That would be horrible.

I love Snow Leapard, don't get me wrong. But it has its place. Imagine using SL on your iPhone.
 
First off: What is wrong with Rupert Murdoch? He is richer than you are? Boo hoo...

B: I predict
-a tablet exact date and sneak peak
-ipod touch gets camera in next rev.
-updated mobileme type system, some sort of cloud "breakthrough" of some sort
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he trys to get involved in other countries politics, Im in england but I can easily see he hates obama & the democrats.

Hes a facist.
 
And the reason is simple: the average customer is not interested whether an 8 core or a core duo renders their movies on a laptop while they are on a plane. The point is that it does what they want, and Apple is great at showing just that.

This whole thing with 'it does what they want'... Well, while I agree the general user experience and simplicity of Apple products is great, I can't really agree that Apple's products are always doing what I want. Apple restricts pretty well what you can do with their products, which can be quite annoying. For example, can't use custom SMS tone on the iPhone. Why? It's basic mobile phone stuff. The only company whose products you cannot expect to do 'normal stuff' is Apple's.
 
he trys to get involved in other countries politics, Im in england but I can easily see he hates obama & the democrats.

Hes a facist.

Facist b/c he doesn't like Obama or Dems? That statement has a "facist" flare to me -- if you use a proper definition, i.e. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism (from Dictionary.com).

Facist is such a loaded word the way you use it, as-if anyone who doesn't support Obama or Dems is evil. This isn't a political thread, but I can tell you Obama and the Dems don't have a lot of friends these days, especially the way they rammed healthcare down. Their favorability is way below 50%.
 
Facist b/c he doesn't like Obama or Dems? That statement has a "facist" flare to me -- if you use a proper definition, i.e. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism (from Dictionary.com).

Facist is such a loaded word the way you use it, as-if anyone who doesn't support Obama or Dems is evil. This isn't a political thread, but I can tell you Obama and the Dems don't have a lot of friends these days, especially the way they rammed healthcare down. Their favorability is way below 50%.

Really, i didn't know that 53.7% favorability was "way below 50%" in President Obama's case.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/fav-obama.php
 
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It's about to get hot in heeeeerrrrr! Goodbye Kindle! Goodbye Sony e reader. Yo a** is grass.
 
That pretty much is what iPhone OS is. The question is which OS would be easier to extend for the new tablet.

This is semantics. It doesn't even remotely approach even the basic functionality of Mac OS X.

You can do that today if the app supports it. By they way I'm agreeing with you here, for me it would be very important to have a more feature complete Safari for example. Saving files, like on the desktop, is one of those features that is missing. But remember these are nothing but apps and as apps it is up to the programmer to give us the required features.

This is a terrible idea. Downloading files should not be handled by an app but by the OS itself. It is creating more complexity where there shouldn't be. Give me a Downloads, Documents, Movies & Music folder and I'll be fine.

I actually like app store so I'm mixed on this one. Given that alternatives are always good. One alternative I'd like to see is an Apple supported scripting environment beyound Javascript. In this regards I'm talking about Python or Ruby. A good scripting language would lead to an explosion in what i call micro apps.

I like the App Store too but it rejects too many apps that exists in a gray area. If Apple allowed this, most people would still use the App Store as their sole place for getting apps. This would just provide some level of openness and freedom.

Unfortunately this is one of the primary reasons that I would see implementing Mac OS/X would lead to failure. The menu bar will not work in a Touch or tablet environment. History is pretty clear here.

I'm not asking for the menu bar just rethinking of it. I don't think there should literally be a menu bar for the tablet. Apple has been thinking of this themselves. There's an in-depth patent they have of a dictionary of gestures. Gestures can accomplish this task for the most part instead of having to rely on keyboard shortcuts which are far less natural.

Desiring iWork on a tablet is falling off the deep end. Sorry to be so blunt but how would you use iWork apps productively on a tablet. Also why disk utility? My fear here is that you are setting your self up for a device that amounts to a flat laptop. I don't believe Apple has the least bit of interest in delivering such a device.

Why is having iWork going overboard? There are document creating and editing apps for the iPhone. Apple is being rumored to be moving things to the cloud. If a tablet can't even handle this basic feature, then what is the point of this thing at all?

The reason I ask for Disk Utility is for the ability to format an external hard drive. The apps that I mentioned would give it the ability to act as a standalone device and it wouldn't be dependant on Mac for the most basic of things.

The ability to mount an external drive would be huge. But this needs to be knocked down to simply supporting a couple of USB ports. While external is good I'd like to see a couple of internal ports supporting the latest SD standard. The ability to expand storage internally would be huge in my mind as it means that portable unit grows with your needs.

Nice we agree on this point. I just would like the ability to format the hard drive as well.

Actually I don't care to much about those two. Rather i'd like to see Blutooth support for other devices like port adapters, network adapters and the like. In fact it should be easy for developers to add new drivers for innovative hardware. My guess is that Blutooth might be the only I/O available with no USB support.

I don't care about this too much either but I would like to see it there for other users who may need it. Maybe it doesn't need a mouse but something like stylus support would be better.

First off don't speak for every body here. We may or may not buy based on any number of consideration.

Most people would use the standard set of features which I've mentioned. This is the reason such things as netbooks have taken off. It's not a wild assumption to believe that most would choose this tablet over a netbook or a Macbook if a basic feature set is provided that most use on daily basis.


As to implementation I'm not sure you grasp the human factors issues. They could easily port over the menu bar for example, but it would be very stupid to do so.


The tablet will get an "OS" that is targetted at the consumer devices business. Mac OS/X will take a different route to the future. There may be Touch in that future Mac OS but it will be implemented in a way to solve different problems.

I understand enough about this. Just because the menubar wouldn't fit a touch based OS doesn't mean you just strip out all the functionality it provided. To me it can be rethought as something for a tablet.
 
I would LMFAO if no tablet was announced... but then 5 mins later I would cry...
The humour of having all these tablet-rumours proven to be complete rubbish, does not outweigh the negative effect if Apple don't deliver some form of tablet.
An iPhone 4.0, iPod Touch w/ camera, new Displays, new Mac Pro are all expected new Apple products for first half of 2010.

Seriously, what else can justify the "big event"?
re: iPhone OS 4: They usually introduce that in March but things could change. But, do NOT count on seeing the 4th Generation iPhone at this event, you won't see it until WWDC 2010.
Laptop Refreshes are very likely, as well as this tablet introduction. The Mac Pro would probably be updated to Gulftown or whatever it is between now and March but I don't know if they would focus on that in the event.
Must you come into news threads with your political trolling?
I'll answer that with this, which is trolling
Foxnews.com is part of the Murdoch empire. As such they could tell me the sky is blue and I'd feel the need to go outside and check.
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Well, duh. The theory is that these users would use a tablet, instead. An even-lighter-than-the-MBA product. For some it will be enough.

And calling any current Apple laptop "thick" is just stupid. They feel like paper compared to Dell machines.

Why would I want to trade my MBA for a tablet? How would I use a tablet to do the things I use my MBA for?

Some of us have jobs. I won't be getting a new job as a "professional magazine reader", or "competitive touch-based game player". I need a keyboard, and I need to run Mac software, not a bunch of App Store downloads.
 
How many people buy laptops/netbooks with data plans? How many people in general have mobile data plans? Very few (remember that iPhone is just 4% of mobile phone market in US). It is hard to see how people could afford two mobile data plans. So they will face a choice: to have data plan on a phone or on a tablet. I suspect that most people will choose the phone.

That's true however I wanted to add the possibility of a MultiSim card - but didn't know if they are common in the US? Can you get a multisim from AT&T for example?

Here in Germany I can get a multisim + additional sim cards from O2 which are all connected to just one mobile contract. But you can use them all at the same time. So for example you can have your main sim card which you put in your iPhone, a second card is for your MacBook and maybe a third sim card for your SMS only business phone (just an example). You can exactly define which card does what, for example card 1: phone+data, card 2 only data, card 3 only phone. But all 3 cards are conntected to your one and only mobile contract.

Is there such a thing in the US too?
 
Why would I want to trade my MBA for a tablet? How would I use a tablet to do the things I use my MBA for?

Some of us have jobs. I won't be getting a new job as a "professional magazine reader", or "competitive touch-based game player". I need a keyboard, and I need to run Mac software, not a bunch of App Store downloads.

Sigh... Is it so difficult to grasp that this thing will not be a replacement for any of the current products, but an extension, complementary and enhancing current products?

I'm sure Apple does not have the ambition to convert al laptop people to tablet people.
 
Apple has a way of making products people never knew they wanted.

When this tablet is unveiled, watch the naysayers clog the internets checking their credit card balances.
 
Sigh... Is it so difficult to grasp that this thing will not be a replacement for any of the current products, but an extension, complementary and enhancing current products?

I'm sure Apple does not have the ambition to convert al laptop people to tablet people.

Take a look at the products that replace nothing like the Apple TV and see how they've fared. Apple's most successful products have replaced something you already had. The iPhone replaced your phone/smartphone, the touch replaced the PDA, the iPod replaced your CD collection and the Mac replaced your substandard Windows machine.

How is the Apple TV doing?
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ping_sales_as_airport_routers_lose_share.html

The only reason why the Apple TV may have a future is because of a rumored TV subscription service which will, in effect, replace your cable box.

If you don't believe me, take a look at the things in your house and see how many items in your house did not replace anything. You'll find very few if anything at all.
 
The Mac Cube sold poorly and a mini-desktop tower would be a rehash.

There is growth potential for a media tablet. There is no growth for a minitower.

Wow, that's about the worst comparison I can possibly imagine, the cube and a budget mini tower are virtually opposites.

The cube failed because it had very little expandability and was ridiculously expensive.

A mini tower would have a fair amount of expandability and could be very cost efficient, even with Apple's generous profit margins. It's simple to build a budget machine with great performance, apple just doesn't want to do it because they worry it would cannibalize sales of their pricey MP's and iMacs once people figure out that you can get the performance of a $2000+ high end mac with hardware at half that price (and no, I don't buy that a cheaper price tag magically makes a machine junk).

Just because desktops are a smaller part of the market doesn't mean that millions of them don't sell every year. Really, is the mini or MBA addressing the biggest part of the market?...and yet apple still sells them. And just because that part of the market isn't growing doesn't mean that apple couldn't still take some of that market and increase their market share. And yes, increase profits.

I had $2400 burning a hole in my pocket, ready to buy a MP at the last update. And Apple botched it so bad, they lost that sale (built my own i7 instead for half the price and it blows away their $2400 machine).

Apple needs to figure out that they need a reasonably priced desktop machine that isn't crippled - if they don't cannibalize their own sales, someone else will.
 
I had to disregard your entire post because of this mistake. The word you were looking for was "technologically."

technically |ˈteknik(ə)lē|
adverb
1 [usu. sentence adverb ] according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly : technically, a nut is a single-seeded fruit.
2 with reference to the technique displayed : a technically brilliant boxing contest.
3 involving or regarding the technology available : technically advanced tools.

technological |ˌteknəˈläjikəl|
adjective
of, relating to, or using technology : the quickening pace of technological change.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that your "correction" was wrong, or that you did it in the douchiest possible way.
 
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I'd probably do the exact same, possibly buy a new iPod touch & Google Nexus One though ;]

Is it sad that I've saved up $900 for this mythical device so far? And that I'm 14? xD

No, what's sad is that you're 14 and have $900 and I'm 29 and am $90.000 in debt. Hey, I have a suggestion for you; save up a little more cash and get CS5 and sign up for a 4Over.com account. Whatever you do, don't go to college.
 
Why would I want to trade my MBA for a tablet? How would I use a tablet to do the things I use my MBA for?

Some of us have jobs. I won't be getting a new job as a "professional magazine reader", or "competitive touch-based game player". I need a keyboard, and I need to run Mac software, not a bunch of App Store downloads.
I can't understand those here that think that just because they have no use for a new device, no one should. Why are you even reading iSlate-related threads in the first place? The iPhone doesn't replace my computer, but I use it constantly. The new iSlate will take the iPhone to next level in many respects (albeit no phone calls). How many times have I thought, 'this movie would be great or... this would be a good time to read a book or... this game would be so cool: but this screen is so small"!

Perhaps you're right -- this thing will suck so bad and will have no real use and no one will want it all and it will have been the worst product that Apple's ever introduced. Or you'll be fabulously wrong.

My money's on the latter.
 
This is a terrible idea. Downloading files should not be handled by an app but by the OS itself. It is creating more complexity where there shouldn't be. Give me a Downloads, Documents, Movies & Music folder and I'll be fine.

Wow, just now in 2009 you tell us this ? Seriously, where were you in the last 40 years ? We now have to rewrite every OS out there to support downloading files, instead of leaving that up to applications. What a bummer, so much work. :rolleyes:

OSes should provide hardware and network layer communication services and that's about it. The OS gives you sockets, and an Application uses that socket interface to download and upload information. The OS should provide a filesystem, and Applications use that filesystem interface to write out files.

This is proper OS design. Good seperation of kernel space and user space is important.
 
That's true however I wanted to add the possibility of a MultiSim card - but didn't know if they are common in the US? Can you get a multisim from AT&T for example?

Here in Germany I can get a multisim + additional sim cards from O2 which are all connected to just one mobile contract. But you can use them all at the same time. So for example you can have your main sim card which you put in your iPhone, a second card is for your MacBook and maybe a third sim card for your SMS only business phone (just an example). You can exactly define which card does what, for example card 1: phone+data, card 2 only data, card 3 only phone. But all 3 cards are conntected to your one and only mobile contract.

Is there such a thing in the US too?

HA. Wouldn't that be nice though......
 
Sigh... Is it so difficult to grasp that this thing will not be a replacement for any of the current products, but an extension, complementary and enhancing current products?

Obviously it is for those who have insisted that the MBA will be discontinued with the intention of this replacing it. Which is what that post was responding to.

I can't understand those here that think that just because they have no use for a new device, no one should.

Except that the post you responded to didn't say that at all. Someone insisted that this product would replace the MBA, and he disagreed. Is that so hard to understand?
 
Wow, just now in 2009 you tell us this ? Seriously, where were you in the last 40 years ? We now have to rewrite every OS out there to support downloading files, instead of leaving that up to applications. What a bummer, so much work. :rolleyes:

OSes should provide hardware and network layer communication services and that's about it. The OS gives you sockets, and an Application uses that socket interface to download and upload information. The OS should provide a filesystem, and Applications use that filesystem interface to write out files.

This is proper OS design. Good seperation of kernel space and user space is important.

Very well stated.
 
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