The article is misleading. The first quote is from Apple. The second quote is from Computerworld. The idea of using iPhone OS on any sort of Mac and the idea of a TimeCapsule enterprise server are things Seth Weintraub at Computerworld made up. They're also silly.
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Mac OS X isn't going anywhere!
Mac OS X isn't going anywhere, although innovations and lessons learn on the iPhone OS will help to make Mac OS X even better. I expect a bit of crossover, from both sides. The iPad looks like it has the Snow Leopard dock, and there is also talk of dashboard making its way to the device too. Also iWork came from the Mac. There are a few things that work better on the iPhone OS, things like voice recognition to name one.
Anyway under all that eye candy they are pretty much the same OS, and that's why Apple is on to a winner.
Mac OS X isn't going anywhere, although innovations and lessons learn on the iPhone OS will help to make Mac OS X even better. I expect a bit of crossover, from both sides. The iPad looks like it has the Snow Leopard dock, and there is also talk of dashboard making its way to the device too. Also iWork came from the Mac. There are a few things that work better on the iPhone OS, things like voice recognition to name one.
Anyway under all that eye candy they are pretty much the same OS, and that's why Apple is on to a winner.
Mac OS X is gonna be around for a while still. Both OSes serve different purposes: One's a very modern general-purpose computer OS, and the other one is a "playpen" of sorts for entertainment and internet-based consumer devices where security is more important than openness.
It's not like Sony dumped their VAIO line when they introduced the PS3.
It's not like Sony dumped their VAIO line when they introduced the PS3.
Touch-based computing WILL replace most low-end Macs. Most low-end PCs, too.
But fear not: we’re talking about a transition of many years. This is the beginning, not the end.
And on the high-end, conventional complex computers will remain available for pros and hobbyists. They will just become the niche rather than the thing everyone buys. Eventually.
But fear not: we’re talking about a transition of many years. This is the beginning, not the end.
And on the high-end, conventional complex computers will remain available for pros and hobbyists. They will just become the niche rather than the thing everyone buys. Eventually.
Wow awesome...I didn't realize the iPad was actually pointing to this soon-to-be-here reality!
One question...how does anyone MAKE anything if we are just sitting around and chatting with computers. And how in the heck do you program these things if keyboards and mice are only legacy devices? So we are going to have the most complex and amazing computers, and no real way to create things for them, or things to create them with period. Gotcha.
Remember this folks. In the future of massive computing power and natural interaction, programmers are legacy.
Lame
Better not put it on any mac's. Just because the price is low on the Low-End mac's doesn't mean it can't handle OSX. I will switch to window's before I use a Mac with iPhone OS. They better be talking about the Apple TV and using your iPhone as a Remote or something.
Better not put it on any mac's. Just because the price is low on the Low-End mac's doesn't mean it can't handle OSX. I will switch to window's before I use a Mac with iPhone OS. They better be talking about the Apple TV and using your iPhone as a Remote or something.
Will definitely be interesting to see where the iPhone OS and A4 processor end up. I don't think they'll so much appear in low end macs like the article says but appear in the devices that go on to kill off the lower end macs.
I'd be willing to bet that down the road the iPhone OS will be OS X. If anyone can pull this off, Apple can. I find myself getting impatient now with moving my mouse and clicking menus. I love the simplicity and ease of use of the iPhone's GUI. As long as Apple can maintain the functionality that people expect from a standard desktop OS, but at the same time make it easier to use and more intuitive -- I'm all for it.
Did he say that? I thought he just said that, in terms of revenue, they were the largest manufacturer of mobile hardware.
Before everybody flips out, nobody knows what the future of the iPhone OS is. Apple, at best, may have a clue but Jobs won't even be around when the time comes. There is no way Apple will be as successful as they are now if the Mac becomes as locked down as the iPhone is now.
Even if cloud services become the standard, apps will get more powerful as well. At no point will it be more efficient to run an app like Final Cut through servers than running it natively.
Then what's the real difference?
None of this is surprising really, Apple TOLD us this is where they are going in the iPad promo video. Ive flat out says THIS is where they are taking things.
Reminds me of my previous job at a telecom company. One of their products was a voice-recognition phone attendant. One day my boss and I were at my desk trying to figure out how to do something, and he decided we should call a coworker over. He picked up the phone, dialed the auto-attendant, and had this conversation with the computer: "John Davidson. *pause* No. *pause* No. *pause* John DA-VID-SON. *pause* No. *pause* NO."
Finally after a few minutes of this he hung up in frustration. I picked up the phone and dialed his phone extension, which I had memorized, and connected with him in seconds.
Why not run it on MacBook Pro? There are plenty of times that its not nessary to run the full OS.
For example, a few weeks ago I was stuck at CLT for a while due to the snow and power outlets were at a premium. All I wanted to do was to use the internet, but I was forced to consume all the extra power running background task I did not need.
For example, a few weeks ago I was stuck at CLT for a while due to the snow and power outlets were at a premium. All I wanted to do was to use the internet, but I was forced to consume all the extra power running background task I did not need.
As other have said I could see the iphone OS as a dual booting situation like those instant on Linus based OS PC manufactures, like Lenovo, and Sony include on many of their laptops. At least this way it be an OS with better/easier app support than those Linux counterparts offer.
Right before that he said, "What's really interesting about this, is that iPods are mobile devices, iPhones are all mobile devices, and most of the Macs that we ship are laptops. They're mobile devices too. Apple is a mobile devices company. That's what we do."
Good call. I think Apple is able to innovate like you say, but if the convergence of OS X and iPhone OS means a major shift towards producing "appliances" rather than more traditional personal computers, then it will be a sad day for me.
Why am I not surprised? Ties in with the touchscreen iMac rumor. I expect the iPhone OS to be extended further for even larger display devices and I wouldn't be surprised with hardware changes too. Eventually I can see the "Pro" Macs to stay with Mac OS X while all the non-Pro Macs will run iPhone OS extended extended. The optical drive would (finally) go from those Macs, and the thickness would be significantly reduced.
Do you think the trackpad will become larger as a result?
I print from my iPod touch all the time. There are several apps that have the ability to print plus there are a few stand alone printing apps in the app store.
I believe we'll see an ipad PRO model in a few years.
Apple has the proprietary OS, the chips, the money and the freaking talent all under one roof.
OMFG!!!!!!
Apple has the proprietary OS, the chips, the money and the freaking talent all under one roof.
OMFG!!!!!!
Agreed. While I'd be open in seeing how the iPhone OS progresses, if Apple keeps it like it is & expects people to use it on regular computers, they'll lose a lot of customers
Oh god, the news post made me laugh. iPhone OS on anything meant to be used as a server? Surely, you jest! Anything less than a full, completely configurable OS is not good enough. Windows barely cuts it, from what I've seen (keep in mind I have more experience with Unix-like servers -- Linux, FreeBSD, and a bit of OSX), and the iPhone OS would just be laughable. Servers of any sort of 'enterprise-class' need to be almost totally customisable when it comes to software -- and it can help if they're also hardware-customisable/upgradable.
In one way it might be a good thing... Apple still makes an insane amount of money from their computer lines, and they're highly praised -- meaning they'd be dead as a company the moment they stopped producing them. Perhaps Steve Jobs will just be letting go of some of the absolute control over every detail of them, and sticking to the mobile/embedded devices he so loves these days. Which could, if they have some smart people working 'behind the scenes' currently, be a very good thing in the long run.
All you people saying how stupid this is don't understand the direction Apple is taking with the iPhone OS.
The iPhone OS is basically going to merge with Mac OS X and become MUCH more capable and powerful with common computer features like printing and so on. We already know that these features on on their way with the iPad, and that will continue through future iterations and new devices. This might be why Apple has been taking so long to really dig into the Apple TV with an App Store and SDK. It makes sense, and I hope they have that next on their list because the opportunity is closing as many competitors enter that area!
Both Mac OS X and iPhone OS will be around for years to come. They will simply become more like one another and meld together. Think of the iPhone OS and the beginnings of Mac OS X Multi-Touch!
It is pretty brilliant to seed this all along with great devices on a second platform while developing the future instead of just trying to heart transplant OS X to multi-touch all at once!
The iPhone OS is basically going to merge with Mac OS X and become MUCH more capable and powerful with common computer features like printing and so on. We already know that these features on on their way with the iPad, and that will continue through future iterations and new devices. This might be why Apple has been taking so long to really dig into the Apple TV with an App Store and SDK. It makes sense, and I hope they have that next on their list because the opportunity is closing as many competitors enter that area!
Both Mac OS X and iPhone OS will be around for years to come. They will simply become more like one another and meld together. Think of the iPhone OS and the beginnings of Mac OS X Multi-Touch!
It is pretty brilliant to seed this all along with great devices on a second platform while developing the future instead of just trying to heart transplant OS X to multi-touch all at once!
Replacing the Macbook from a fully functional, versatile OS with a locked down, overbearing content-geared OS? **** that.