Apple Joins Wireless Power Consortium Behind 'Qi' Standard Ahead of iPhone 8

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple recently became listed as a member of the Wireless Power Consortium, committed to the open development of the Qi wireless charging standard. The listing was brought to our attention by IHS Technology.


    Apple, which has since confirmed it is a member, has become one of over 200 companies that belong to the consortium, including Samsung, LG, HTC, Qualcomm, Verizon, ConvenientPower, Aircharge, Dell, Canon, Sony, ST Microelectronics, Toshiba, Texas Instruments, Philips, Panasonic, Bosch, Nokia, and Huawei.

    Qi is the leading wireless charging standard, used by more than 200 companies in products ranging from smartphones to cordless kitchen appliances. Samsung's latest Galaxy smartphones, for example, feature Qi-based wireless charging which requires placing the device on one of its "Fast Charge" stands.

    Qi, pronounced "chee," is capable of scaling from less than 1 watt to more than 2,000 watts of power, making the standard more than adequate enough for charging any smartphone. With Qi's latest Quick Charge technology, a five-minute charge can provide a smartphone with up to five hours of battery life.

    The so-called "iPhone 8" is widely rumored to include wireless charging, so Apple's participation in the consortium is perhaps unsurprising. Moreover, there is increasing evidence to suggest the "iPhone 8" may use inductive technology, which would require a charging puck or pad, rather than long-range charging.

    Luxshare is also a member of the Wireless Power Consortium, which is notable given a recent rumor claiming the "iPhone 8" will have a separate wireless charger based on technology from the Chinese company. Luxshare was rumored to be a supplier of wireless charging coils for the Apple Watch charger.

    In 2015, the Apple Watch was found to be compliant with the Qi wireless charging standard, but Apple did not submit it for interoperability testing. However, this does not guarantee that Apple will use the Qi standard for future iPhones, but its membership does show its interest in the technology.

    Over the course of the last year, there has been ongoing speculation that wireless charging company Energous has inked a deal with Apple to potentially provide wireless charging technology for the iPhone 8, but patents and other evidence suggest Apple may pursue its own in-house inductive charging solutions instead.

    Update: Apple confirmed that it has joined the Wireless Power Consortium in a statement to Business Insider.
    Apple said it "looks forward to working together" with the other members to help further the "development of future wireless charging standards."

    Article Link: Apple Joins Wireless Power Consortium Behind 'Qi' Standard Ahead of iPhone 8
  2. NT1440 macrumors G5


    May 18, 2008
    So, as they tend to do with the consortiums they are members of, here's to hoping Apple is joining to push the capability of standards forward as they've done with Bluetooth, Wifi (remember their role in 802.11n?), etc.
  3. djcerla macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2015
  4. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    The wireless charging can be introduced as short range (I.e. requiring a mat) and long range functionality can be added later.
    RF charging works with both, as it depends on the intensity of the transmitter. The long range could be added once the technology is refined and the transmitters are miniaturized.
  5. cjbryce, Feb 13, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2017

    cjbryce macrumors 6502


    Jun 4, 2008
    Indeed. "What ho chaps, all very well and good this Qi thing, but have you seen what Energous and we have been up to?":D

    Leastways, I hope so. I have WATT in my small portfolio.
  6. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    There's no real point pushing Qi in my opinion when there's short range and long range RF.
  7. rudychidiac Suspended


    May 2, 2012
    Conductive charging never made sense to me, except on apple watch since it's too small to have a charging port. However, if Apple is going to sell me a "wireless" charging dock I might as well use the existing lightning dock, It'll only be less difficult for me to pick it up/place it, I could live with that.
  8. Dave245 macrumors 604


    Sep 15, 2013
    I don't see the point in this, you still have to place the phone on the charging matt for it to charge, i'm willing to see what Apple are doing but i was never impressed with the Samsung version, maybe Apple will change my mind in September with the new iPhones, but at the moment it seems a bit pointless.
  9. LordQ Suspended


    Sep 22, 2012
  10. WinstonRumfoord macrumors 6502

    Mar 27, 2014
    Contact "wireless" charging always seemed worse than traditional wired charging to me. Introducing more frequencies into the air with no real benefit other than "cool".
  11. albebaubles macrumors 6502


    Feb 9, 2010
    low Sierra
    Don't rule out some sort of pad and long range combination
  12. dannyyankou macrumors G3


    Mar 2, 2012
    Scarsdale, NY
    I'm calling it now, the iPhone 8 will only be able to charge with Apple's own first party charging pad. Qi devices should be able to work with any charging pad, but Apple will find a way.
  13. SoN1NjA, Feb 13, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2017

    SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    At first when the rumors came out I thought wow how awesome long range, future!

    Now, all I see is we're getting the same tech the competition has had for years, how awesome...
  14. downpour macrumors 6502

    Oct 20, 2009
    This is only really useful for charging in cars that have this feature built in.

    WiTricity style long range magnetic resonance would be much better if Apple want to do something more useful and innovative.
  15. RickInHouston macrumors 65816

    May 14, 2014
    They're not going out on their own? Their version isn't proprietary? I just fell off my chair!
  16. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    Apple Watch uses Qi in a way, very finicky
    But the Apple Watch's charging interface is not propreitary
  17. NT1440 macrumors G5


    May 18, 2008
    I think the intention is for the Qi standard to have a long range RF option in the future....
  18. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Long range isn't happening. That is a year or two off. The tech just isn't at a practical level yet. Inductive charging is tried and true. Long range will be great but inductive is welcome.
  19. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    ? That's what I was saying - RF is both long range and short range.
  20. dumastudetto macrumors 68040

    Aug 28, 2013
    Wireless charging on its own will be enough for me to upgrade all my iPhones. I can't wait!
  21. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    Hopefully, that would make sense.
  22. bstv69 macrumors newbie

    May 17, 2010
    This whole obsession with wireless charging is absurd. Especially if it requires contact. I use my phone as my gps for a living and if i have to add some bulky, expensive charging hardware to replace my current lightning cable i will be pissed
  23. Thunderhawks Suspended

    Feb 17, 2009
    New dongle coming. $ 19.95

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  24. sman789 Customer Support


    Dec 25, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    Oh man, I'm excite. I have a collection of Qi chargers and wasn't expecting them to be compatible with the next iPhone. What next? A USB-C port!
  25. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    Coming in 2018:

    A wireless router that you have to rest your PC on in order to maintain a connection

    and in 2019:

    A remote control that you have to touch to your TV in order to change the channel

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