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BaldyMac --
Again, not me. 😁

Not going to take all your partisan balderdash point by point, but the above demonstrates that your sources are way way off ... but you keep on preaching my friend. The politics you espouse are toxic.

Again I never said there was no antisemitism at universities. Just that the administration used it as an excuse to leverage universities into adopting conservative policies in violation of the first amendment.
 
Again, not me. 😁


Again I never said there was no antisemitism at universities. Just that the administration used it as an excuse to leverage universities into adopting conservative policies in violation of the first amendment.
Violation of the First Amendment? Good grief. Talk about rationalizing toxic viewpoints for partisan purposes. All I can say is that you would have truly hated LBJ and the entire civil rights movement.
 
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If he "always chickens out", stop crying about him ruining the country...
He is free to ruin his own country, but the world will not allow him to do the same to theirs — take Iran as an example.

How many US/Western ships left the Persian Gulf since Feb. 28? Or, entered the Red Sea from Indian ocean since then? Have the fuel prices come down in America since then? If the energy prices go up, all other product prices would go up, especially food and essentials. Any price drop down since Feb 28th? Sure, TACO is doing well!
 
Do you have an argument more specific than "Good grief." Or is it all just loaded language and innuendo?

I made my argument by referencing LBJ. But to spell it out in real simple terms:

Attacking religious minorities, prohibiting people from speaking on campus because they are Jewish or "Zionist" in your parlance, creating obstacles where Jews cannot freely traverse campus without being subject to abuse (verbal and otherwise), threatening physical harm, physical assualts, being driven to take cover in univeristies libraries -- all appear to be legitimate exercise of First Amendment rights to people like you under the guise, I suppose, that the First Amendment supercedes consitutional protections against religious, ethnic, nation origin discrimination or violence. It does not.

Clear?

Can I help you understand? Sure but its unlikely to take place in the MR forums as people are just wedded to their cognitive biases. I rather suggest a good place to start is to do more study on the First Amendment and legitimate use time, place, manner restrictions and other rights in the constitutional order, which were all summarily ignored by Columbia, Harvard and other institutions of so-called higher education because you know ... "context."

So, like I said ... you would have hated LBJ and the civil rights movement.

 
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So now, Trump attempting to curb anti-Semitism at universities is a violation of their first amendment rights? OK, then.
No. That's not what I said. Did you read the article? I have no problem with investigations into antisemitism.

I made my argument by referencing LBJ. But to spell it out in real simple terms:

Attacking religious minorities, prohibiting people from speaking on campus because they are Jewish or "Zionist" in your parlance, creating obstacles where Jews cannot freely traverse campus without being subject to abuse (verbal and otherwise), threatening physical harm, physical assualts, being driven to take cover in univeristies libraries -- all appear to be legitimate exercise of First Amendment rights to people like you under the guise, I suppose, that the First Amendment supercedes consitutional protections against religious, ethnic, nation origin discrimination or violence. It does not.

Clear?

Can I help you understand? Sure but its unlikely to take place in the MR forums as people are just wedded to their cognitive biases. I rather suggest a good place to start is to do more study on the First Amendment and legitimate use time, place, manner restrictions and other rights in the constitutional order, which were all summarily ignored by Columbia, Harvard and other institutions of so-called higher education because you know ... "context."

So, like I said ... you would have hated LBJ and the civil rights movement.

What does that have to do with what I said? Again, I have no problem with investigations into antisemitism. They're clearly need. That's a good thing. The problem is leveraging those investigations to promote conservative viewpoints.
 
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Highly successful TACO, is he not!
 
What does that have to do with what I said? Again, I have no problem with investigations into antisemitism. They're clearly need. That's a good thing. The problem is leveraging those investigations to promote conservative viewpoints.
Tiresome. I'll try one last time to demonstrate it for you as you are just not getting it.

You must have really hated LBJ and the civil rights movement ... I'm looking for a response. Am I right? Probably not -- it's rhetorical. The First Amendment does not protect against threats, incitement to imminent violence, or targeted harassment. Although LBJ was not necessarily pushing a "conservative" viewpoint ... he was pushing a political agenda ... regardless of the KKK's right to assembly or free speech rights.

The point here is that you are cherry picking your objections based on your political viewpoint, not objective analysis and certainly not based on constitutional rights.

Have a great day.
 
Tiresome. I'll try one last time to demonstrate it for you as you are just not getting it.

You must have really hated LBJ and the civil rights movement ... I'm looking for a response. Am I right? Probably not -- it's rhetorical. The First Amendment does not protect against threats, incitement to imminent violence, or targeted harassment. Although LBJ was not necessarily pushing a "conservative" viewpoint ... he was pushing a political agenda ... regardless of the KKK's right to assembly or free speech rights.

The point here is that you are cherry picking your objections based on your political viewpoint, not objective analysis and certainly not based on constitutional rights.

Have a great day.
It's not that I'm not getting your point, it's that your point has nothing to do with what I said. I do not hate LBJ or the civil rights movement. That's just you making stuff up. I provided a conservative source to explain the viewpoint discrimination that I was referring to. If you'd bother to read it, you might understand that it has nothing to do with antisemitism.

Again, to be perfectly clear, I fully support investigating antisemitism on college campuses.
 
The national average price for regular gasoline in the United States is $4.55 per gallon, while diesel stands at approximately $5.45 per gallon.

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  • Diesel: Has surged by roughly 45%, climbing from $3.76 to $5.45 per gallon.
Highly successful TACO, is he not!

$4.55 per gallon or $1.2 per liter which is very cheap! so stop crying.
 
Sigh. Assumed something like that would be the response.

I’m going to trust dozens of my friends and family who live in Europe (and my own eyes when I visit) over a discredited right-wing “economist” turned conservative pundit and a bunch of blatantly racist accounts I see on X screaming about the end of Europe. It’s an echo chamber with no connection to reality.

Again, your news sources are lying to you - about Europe, and also about what the Democratic Party has “turned into”. I’d strongly encourage you to look into it with an open mind, or failing that, if for no other reason than to prove me wrong.
Right, the rape gangs in The UK are a figment of their imagination, mass praying in the Streets blocking traffic aren't really happening, the Tommy Robinson march to save The UK didn't attract tens of thousands of people, Sweden is as safe as it was 40 years ago, France doesn't have No Go Zones, Germany isn't suffering from rampant crime rates due to immigrants, The Netherlands has no problems, everyone is making it all up. JD Vance didn't make it an important part of his speech to The UK.
Good Lord.
 

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The US is a strange country where millions of undocumented migrants live and work openly. When the authorities catch an undocumented worker they arrest and deport them where possible, but little is done to the employer, who is often an American citizen. The employer should also be arrested and punished for knowingly breaking the law, yet there is nowhere to deport that citizen to. It is odd: the US has a problem with undocumented migrants but lets the American employers off lightly — a fine may be levied, but is that sufficient? The administration blames the migrants while excusing its own citizens.

Well, you people knowingly voted him in, so his failings are your responsibility too. There is little you can do about it under a constitution that grants the sitting president vast, almost authoritarian powers — comparable to those of a monarch in some Muslim countries. The president’s mistakes affect the world, which drives the push for de‑dollarisation; Trump is a catalyst for that. The sooner de‑dollarisation happens, the better for the world — and the worse for the average American: the dollar’s purchasing power will fall, and there could even be an exodus of US citizens.

Oh, the Trump's war against Iran? The US has lost the war. It was obvious since 10-12 March. Finally he had to sue for a ceasefire. And Trump will help cause defeat in the mid‑terms. The problem for Americans is the absence of a viable third party, so it’s like merely changing the pillow to try to stop a headache.
Yes, the employer has never been charged as they should have been, that has changed lately. Personally, unless the employer is paying the illegal worker lower wages than regular employees, chances are that there is a labor shortage. Those who have been here for at least 10 years and have had a full time job for at least 5 years, there should be a way to get them a permanent green card without it leading to citizenship. IMO.

Trump has some really lousy advisors in his admin, chief among them Witkoff the Qatar operative and Tom Barrack, Erdogan's sock puppet.
I agree about Iran, he needed to finish the job and he didn't, so this is turning into Obama Part 2.
Trump has always been this way, do one good thing, screw up a couple, do something good, screw up again.
I never wanted him back and didn't vote for him in the Primary but compared to Kamala Harris, Trump is Teddy Roosevelt.
 
Great. The Republican Party doesn't support any of it. And without overturning Citizens United and ending gerrymandering, our republic belongs to the billionaire class.


Whatever floats your boat. An arbitrary number of years and zero tolerance for mistakes doesn't seem like good policy to me, but you have to start the discussion somewhere. At least it's better than selling our citizenship to the highest bidder.


It's hard to have a conversation when you drop down into this partisan nonsense. "Let's just ignore the awful things 45 has done and call the other side names" isn't a real argument. What I was trying to convey with my last post is the left isn't the boogie man that right wing propaganda makes it out to be.

Here are rational alternatives to your pro-47 takes:

1. Controlling the border? By ignoring the law, setting up a cruel detention system, and illegally curtailing legal immigration. If you don't believe the president should be limited by the law, than you prefer a dictator over a democracy.
2. Anti-semitism at Universities? This was nothing more than an attempt to strong-arm universities into making changes to support conservative policies in flagrant violation of the first amendment.
3.Maduro? This operation was undoubtedly about looting Venezuela's oil and natural resources. It's completely disingenuous to pretend it was about freedom for Venezuelans.
4. Manufacturing? Manufacturing jobs declined during his first term and so far in his second term. It's all smoke and mirrors. Promote the commitment. Hope no one remembers when the jobs never appear. If they do, blame your opponents.

The point isn't that one of us is right and one is wrong. It's that there are reasonable takes on the other side.
I think Citizen's United should be over turned.

Yes, the Left is most definitely the boogeyman, they have gone full Communist without even trying to hide it anymore, are rabidly anti-semitic and pro terrorist, believe that violence is OK when they feel it is OK, are anti-West, anti-America, anti-White, and push DEI separatism in schools and politics.
I was a Democrat for years, I now consider them to be unelectable at this point. John Fetterman is the last real Democrat left and they hate him for speaking his mind and daring to criticize the proletariat.

1. He ignored no laws, he used those were available to him to finally control the Biden Invasion. DEI Joe could have done it as well, but Democrats sure do love those illegals to prop up the census count to gain more representatives in Congress, never mind the crime.
2. Bunk, Trump has been active fighting against anti-semitism ever since the day he was elected. He named Leo Terrell as head of a task force, has attacked Tucker Qatarlson and all the groypers who turned against Israel and Jews as soon as Qatar opened their checkbook. (I will criticize him for getting too close to Qatar himself and this has been a problem foreign policy wise)
3. Maduro was a problem for a lot of reasons, drugs the biggest, and not to give credit when due is silly. The operation was flawless and Venezuela is much better off now.
4. Honda and Taiwanese chip makers, etc are bringing plants to the U.S. All announced and all real.

I have never been a Party guy. I have been a Republican, then Democrat, then Independent and never vote Party line. I actually voted for Biden the previous election, worst vote of my life.
 
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It's hilarious that your go to criticism for the Democratic Party is that two guys said bad stuff. One of whom has disavowed the stupid takes of his past. While ignoring that the guy you prefer as PRESIDENT has said and done the same stuff. Grab'em by the *****. Dinner with a white nationalist, holocaust denier, and antisemite. Praising Hitler's generals. Calling people who died in service to this country suckers and losers. And he's likely a rapist and pedophile. He's also corrupt, a fraud, and prolific liar.

I mean, I could think of a long, long list of criticism for the Democratic Party. But two guys on the fringes of the party said some stuff a while ago falls pretty far down the list. But that's the problem with the propaganda. It tries to convince you over and over again that little **** like that is the end of the world.
We had one option in the General Election and Trump was a better choice than Harris, who was anointed without a vote and was just a terrible candidate who was so bad people actually preferred Trump over the Cackling Hyena.
Platner just doubled down saying he stands by his saying that American soldier deserved to die, he also said way more than one thing, the guy is a raving lunatic and to say it was in his past is disingenuous at best. There are multiple Democrats who are so insane they should be no where near an election, especially that Democrat woman who said Ziolists should be locked up in internment caps.
I don't know how much alternative news sources you look at but the Democratic Party has gone full DSA insanity.
As much as I don't like the maga crap, I will take them over what The Democrats have become.
 

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Again, not me. 😁


Again I never said there was no antisemitism at universities. Just that the administration used it as an excuse to leverage universities into adopting conservative policies in violation of the first amendment.
When Universities align with only one world view and The Federal Government gives them our tax dollars in the billions, they have every right o make sure Universities aren't turning out hateful country hating anti-semitic nut jobs.
 

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The national average price for regular gasoline in the United States is $4.55 per gallon, while diesel stands at approximately $5.45 per gallon.

Price Increase Since February 28
  • Regular Gasoline: Has jumped by $1.59 per gallon. It rose from $2.96 just before the conflict began to $4.55 today—representing a 54% increase.
  • Diesel: Has surged by roughly 45%, climbing from $3.76 to $5.45 per gallon.
Highly successful TACO, is he not!
What would folks like you have done during WWII?
Rationing!? For 4 years!? Unacceptable, surrender right now!
2 months of higher gas prices and some folks are ready to throw in the towel. Trump's mistake was stopping when he did.
 
I think Citizen's United should be over turned.
Then you should vote Democrat.

Yes, the Left is most definitely the boogeyman, they have gone full Communist without even trying to hide it anymore, are rabidly anti-semitic and pro terrorist, believe that violence is OK when they feel it is OK, are anti-West, anti-America, anti-White, and push DEI separatism in schools and politics.
This is nothing but propaganda and name calling.

1. He ignored no laws, he used those were available to him to finally control the Biden Invasion. DEI Joe could have done it as well, but Democrats sure do love those illegals to prop up the census count to gain more representatives in Congress, never mind the crime.
2. Bunk, Trump has been active fighting against anti-semitism ever since the day he was elected. He named Leo Terrell as head of a task force, has attacked Tucker Qatarlson and all the groypers who turned against Israel and Jews as soon as Qatar opened their checkbook. (I will criticize him for getting too close to Qatar himself and this has been a problem foreign policy wise)
3. Maduro was a problem for a lot of reasons, drugs the biggest, and not to give credit when due is silly. The operation was flawless and Venezuela is much better off now.
4. Honda and Taiwanese chip makers, etc are bringing plants to the U.S. All announced and all real.
Again, the point wasn't to change your mind, just that there are rational alternatives to your POV.

(And FWIW, DEI Joe did do it. The last 6 months of his term, we enjoyed fewer border crossings than he inherited for 45. But that doesn't fit your narrative.)
 
Then you should vote Democrat.


This is nothing but propaganda and name calling.


Again, the point wasn't to change your mind, just that there are rational alternatives to your POV.

(And FWIW, DEI Joe did do it. The last 6 months of his term, we enjoyed fewer border crossings than he inherited for 45. But that doesn't fit your narrative.)
Citizens United isn't enough to get me to vote for a Democrat, and it is a Supreme Court issue anyway.

It isn't propaganda when it is the truth.

Biden still had thousands coming over illegally without any attempt to stop them, just because he finally decided to slow the flow for the upcoming election doesn't mean squat. Even Democrats had had enough and told him to do something about it.
Trump has the lowest amount of border crossings in modern history. Biden was a traitor.
 
Citizens United isn't enough to get me to vote for a Democrat, and it is a Supreme Court issue anyway.
I guess I just have more urgency about people buying my country.

It isn't propaganda when it is the truth.
Sure. But nothing you said was objectively true.

Biden still had thousands coming over illegally without any attempt to stop them, just because he finally decided to slow the flow for the upcoming election doesn't mean squat. Even Democrats had had enough and told him to do something about it.
Alternatively, Biden was quickly deporting most border crossers using Title 42 due to COVID for most of his term before he decided to end Title 42 in response to multiple lawsuits in May 2023. This resulted in a large influx of asylum claims since they had been severely curtailed under Title 42 for several years. He hoped to deal with this backlog with a bipartisan immigration bill that ended up being killed by 45 in order to keep immigration as a wedge issue to benefit his election campaign. After the bill was killed, Biden was able to get crossings under control for his last 6 months, reducing them to a lower level than 45 ended his first term with.

And, of course, contrary to the lie that there was no attempt to stop illegal immigration, border patrol averaged around 150-200,000 arrest for most of his term at the southwest border.


Trump has the lowest amount of border crossings in modern history.
Which he's accomplished by ignoring the law, cruel detention detention policies, and illegally curbing legal immigration. Again, if you don't care if he follows the law, then you've given up your republic.
 
Yes, the employer has never been charged as they should have been, that has changed lately. Personally, unless the employer is paying the illegal worker lower wages than regular employees, chances are that there is a labor shortage. Those who have been here for at least 10 years and have had a full time job for at least 5 years, there should be a way to get them a permanent green card without it leading to citizenship. IMO.
An illegal is an illegal. If someone has worked and earned money while undocumented, it remains an offence. If they have lived there for ten years, they have knowingly broken the law. Likewise, if an employer knew they were hiring undocumented workers, that is also a crime — a betrayal of the country in which they live. There should be laws that act as a strong deterrent.
Trump has some really lousy advisors in his admin, chief among them Witkoff the Qatar operative and Tom Barrack, Erdogan's sock puppet.
I agree about Iran, he needed to finish the job and he didn't, so this is turning into Obama Part 2.
Trump has always been this way, do one good thing, screw up a couple, do something good, screw up again.
I never wanted him back and didn't vote for him in the Primary but compared to Kamala Harris, Trump is Teddy Roosevelt.
He has a whole lot of inept henchmen and henchwomen. Trump’s greatest fault is his arrogance, and with it he is dragging his country down the drain. The worst part is that his actions are causing severe problems for other countries. Under the US Constitution, Congress has no executive powers — those rest with the sitting president — and Trump exploits that as he wishes; at his age, he shows little regard for America — no dead man ever returns to answer for his deeds.

You should have a strong third party. Having only Republicans and Democrats is not good at all — they’re two sides of the same coin.
 
I guess I just have more urgency about people buying my country.


Sure. But nothing you said was objectively true.


Alternatively, Biden was quickly deporting most border crossers using Title 42 due to COVID for most of his term before he decided to end Title 42 in response to multiple lawsuits in May 2023. This resulted in a large influx of asylum claims since they had been severely curtailed under Title 42 for several years. He hoped to deal with this backlog with a bipartisan immigration bill that ended up being killed by 45 in order to keep immigration as a wedge issue to benefit his election campaign. After the bill was killed, Biden was able to get crossings under control for his last 6 months, reducing them to a lower level than 45 ended his first term with.

And, of course, contrary to the lie that there was no attempt to stop illegal immigration, border patrol averaged around 150-200,000 arrest for most of his term at the southwest border.



Which he's accomplished by ignoring the law, cruel detention detention policies, and illegally curbing legal immigration. Again, if you don't care if he follows the law, then you've given up your republic.
Biden let in over 10 million mostly from outside the Americas, which means Mexico was the first point of entry and that should have been their final stop in seeking asylum.
This was an organized invasion and Biden not only allowed it, he encouraged it.
Trump did nothing illegal, he did what Biden wouldn't do.
The Democratic Party is morphing into a Domestic Terrorist Organization, something I predicted but didn't think it would happen tis quickly.
I am no fan of Trump and find him to be exhausting, but he is still loads better than anything the Democrats could come up with.
 
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