3rd gen keyboard? Amazing that they have been working on improving the keyboard each model cycle. Tells you just how bad this design is. Nice to see these performance improvements though!
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Apple Launches 2018 MacBook Pros: 8th Gen Core, Up to 32GB of RAM, Third-Gen Keyboard, Quad-Core on 13-Inch and More
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The problem is not the touch bar, the problem is the LACK of commitment to it. If they want it to work, I’m fine with it, but go full throttle with it. If it is supposed to be deeply ingrained in the macOS system, why the hell is it not included in the iMac Pro? Why hasn’t Apple released a Magic Keyboard with it? This inconsistency breaks with the future of the TouchBar, no developer will commit resources to use it (and I agree that there is potential there) if only 2% of Macs have it. It suffers from the same lack of uniformity that haunts Android producers. Fragmentation means less developers will use something? Why adopt the newest API from Android if only 5% of available Android phones have it? And why would, let’s say, PDF Expert adopt new and innovative uses of the TouchBar if only a small share of macOS users have it?
I drool over the 15" display - I want it. But I don't need anything close to that much power.
I wish Apple would make a 15" Macbook, with the lower-power CPU from the non-touchbar MBP, no discrete graphics, and fill all that extra space with battery. I would buy that, for sure.
I wish Apple would make a 15" Macbook, with the lower-power CPU from the non-touchbar MBP, no discrete graphics, and fill all that extra space with battery. I would buy that, for sure.
Was briefly very excited since we could finally get 32GB in a MBP. Clicked on the maxed out 13in and didn't see the 32GB option so kept refreshing thinking the site hadn't updated yet, but starting to think the big surprise is that the 32GB is oddly limited to the larger 15in. Very disappointing since I'd pay more for the 13in, the 15in is simply too large since already use an iMac for things that require a large screen and laptop for ultra portability. I wonder if they just don't sell the 32gb with it but it can be purchased afterwards from crucial or something and take a little extra hit on battery that Apple wasn't comfortble shipping with.
Because there wasn't anything better available. But now there is, and has been for years.
There's sufficient (using a scaled resolution in software, which Apple first offered with the 2012), and then there's $2,399 in 2018 sufficient (increasing the actual display resolution). At least that's how I see it.
I prefer to not use a non-native resolution. Would be nice to expect an improvement when spending that much to upgrade my 6-year-old MacBook Pro.
These are native resolutions...you'd still be using DPI scaling or pixel doubling with 4k or you will need a magnifying glass.
Bonus /s: FaceTime is still 720p in mid-2018. lol My 2014 Samsung Galaxy Tab had 1080p.
I apologize for my ignorance, I'm a fairly new MBP owner (as of a few months ago). I thought the 2017 MBP 13' could do an eGPU with the 4 USB C ports? Is that something only the 2018 model can do?
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone
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70% processor increase for 15' and 2x processor speed increase for the 13'.
Trying to figure this out. My 2017 MBP TB 13' has the i5 3.3Ghz 2 cores.
Is the 2.3Ghz Quad Core 8th gen i5 really 2x faster?
I guess the article can be true depending on how you match up the CPUs (nTB i5 vs new 8th gen i7) ?
and its not far ahead of the 2017HQ. Easy to say something is faster when you compare the base versus the top of another generation. [rolls eyes]
The only disappointing thing I see here is they're still using Polaris GPUs. Not like they have many options right now. Guess eGPUs are still an option, but it's too bad Thunderbolt 4 isn't out yet.
At least this means new iMac 5K with six core processors are coming. No way they'd update them with only with options lower than the MacBook Pro. I think an iMac Pro with six-core i9, 64GB of RAM, 2TB SSD and a newer GPU would suit me quite well. Wish they would upgrade it to a 32" 6K display. Also still want to wait to see what the new modular Mac Pro is all about.
At least this means new iMac 5K with six core processors are coming. No way they'd update them with only with options lower than the MacBook Pro. I think an iMac Pro with six-core i9, 64GB of RAM, 2TB SSD and a newer GPU would suit me quite well. Wish they would upgrade it to a 32" 6K display. Also still want to wait to see what the new modular Mac Pro is all about.
Not happy at all... specially with the prices. For the specs, the 15" for $2800 is way overpriced.
Get rid of the touchbar and reduced the price by $700.00
No, ATI Rebrandeon is in full force here for the 3rd “generation” in a row.
I get that not everyone likes the Touch Bar or power connection. After a year of using the new 15" MBP I have come to really appreciate the ability to plug power into any port on either side of the machine--very handy when plunking down on cramped spaces and dealing with power outlet placement. I think the power cable also holds up better over time because it unplugs completely from the power brick and wraps up nicely. I get the most use out of the touch bar when typing into forms and auto-suggestions pop up along the Touch Bar. It's great to tap on one and it just populates the field. Other than adding more capability to it, I really wish Apple would just provide a simple way to toggle the entire touch bar on and off. Working in certain apps tends to cause accidental touches on the bar and set off things I don't want to happen.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone
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70% processor increase for 15' and 2x processor speed increase for the 13'.
Trying to figure this out. My 2017 MBP TB 13' has the i5 3.3Ghz 2 cores.
Is the 2.3Ghz Quad Core 8th gen i5 really 2x faster?
I guess the article can be true depending on how you match up the CPUs (nTB i5 vs new 8th gen i7) ?
If you look at footnotes on Apple’s site they show what configs they compared.
The new models since 2016 default to 1680x1050. The 1400x900 mode is not for me! The displays are a little different than the previous generation. The 2012-2015 don’t look as good with 1680x1050.
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$400 to make the base model get 32GB of RAM, that is now around $2800 for a 15". Ouch.
I'll have to stop into the store and check it out when they put it out on display. This was not in the store yesterday.
I was so so so hoping for a 6core 13" option. Outside of that, surprised and quite happy atm.
You can chose to display just the function keys for whichever apps you want in settings. You’ll just hear a error sound instead of changing something.
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It’s impossible because that is a 45w part. The 13” models stick to 28w.
First thing I did with my TB was turn off the word guessing. That made it so much more useful for me (because I type fairly fast). I actually end up using it a bit and enjoying it. Love sliding the volume and display brightness. Having apps that put effort in putting useful keys right above where I type has been a pleasant experience.
Better late than never! Yes, you, too, can now have 32 GB of RAM in a 15" laptop - for a mere $400!
The keyboard will still break, but at least it's quieter! Let's see how long it takes a 6 core CPU to melt the "b" and "n" keys . . . And shame about the trackpad . . . and the pricing . . .
Un-freaking-believable . . .
The keyboard will still break, but at least it's quieter! Let's see how long it takes a 6 core CPU to melt the "b" and "n" keys . . . And shame about the trackpad . . . and the pricing . . .
Un-freaking-believable . . .
I think people should start boycotting Apple hardware until Apple realizes the severity of their decisions, but I am afraid Tim thinks its a sign people don't want Macs any more and they can replace them with iPads
Prior to the Retina, they offered a 15" with 1680x1050; so that would be 1680x2x1050x2 (equivalent to 3360x2100). That's really what the MacBook Pro with Retina Display should be at by now, especially given the $2,399 price tag.
As for pixel doubling or HiDPI, that is still displaying pixels 1:1 on the Retina display, if you select 1440x2x900x2 (equivalent to 2800x1800). Using pixel doubling or HiDPI at a non-native resolution does make things look slightly fuzzy, as one Retina-size pixel must be split between two. I can notice it without a magnifying glass.
I was waiting for the 8th gen CPU update but I was hoping for a slightly better price. Right now I can get the xps 15 with an nvidia GPU, 1050ti, (which is more pro since I can use it for parallel computing) for 1500€ (1751$) or the new MBP for 2700€ (3152$). The price difference is ridiculous and I am not sure I can justify even to myself this purchase.