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Most families share an iTunes account...
Can you provide the link to these statistics please?

Having separate accounts would require purchasing the same app/song twice as Apple doesn't allow merging accounts.
Um, no... have you heard of Home Sharing?

I understand home sharing, etc., but that isn't the best solution for us.
Oh, apparently you have. So you do realize that having separate accounts doesn't require you to purchase the same app/song twice so your family can enjoy it.

We don't mind having a library full of stuff we don't like.
Nothing wrong with that, of course... but not everyone feels the same way. Just because you like something, you can't assume everyone else does (see my reply to your first statement).
 
Incorrect. iTunes Match can also upgrade your actual library with their versions. The explanation of it is right there on their website and has been since they announced this service months ago.

I don't think he's suggesting that you can't do that.

The point, as I understand it, that he is making is that the point of iTunes Match is not to upgrade your music. That is just an incidental benefit.

I would point out however, that for a large number of people, it is a significant benefit, and worth paying the $25 for by itself.
 
Can you provide the link to these statistics please?


Oh, apparently you have. So you do realize that having separate accounts doesn't require you to purchase the same app/song twice so your family can enjoy it.


Nothing wrong with that, of course... but not everyone feels the same way. Just because you like something, you can't assume everyone else does (see my reply to your first statement).

I'm an international pilot, spend lots of time away from home...and home sharing doesn't work when your not at home!

Secondly, any random family that is not Mac/Apple savvy will buy their first Apple product....say an iPad...set up an Apple ID. Then they say, "hey, this is great...let's get little Jimmy an iTouch for the Christmas!" Guess what, they use the same AppleID because obviously, mom & dad don't want to give little Jimmy's credit card info away and/or they are not familiar with home sharing and how it works across different Apple IDs. Not to mention you have to be 18 to register an Apple ID!

Finally, for all those newly married 20/30 somethings, who've had AppleIDs prior to getting married are now using home sharing because they cannot merge their songs, etc. into a single account (or they don't want to). Not a bad solution, except when your sitting in Europe and the wife says, "hey, checkout this app/song I just bought." I guess the home sharing crowd will say...I guess I will when I get home OR I'LL BUY IT TWICE!

Statistics...please! I'd wager 3/4 of the Apple consumer market is not familiar with how to use home sharing across multiple Apple IDs.

http://en.zicos.com/tech/i26198924-How-to-configure-iCloud-if-you-share-an-Apple-ID.html

http://techsmashed.com/how-to-configure-icloud-if-you-share-an-apple-id/

http://news.iphoneworld.ca/inews/How+to+configure+iCloud+if+you+share+an+Apple+ID

I can provide more if you need them!
 
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I tend to agree with him because it's much easier by sharing a single "family" Apple ID as opposed to using iTunes Home Sharing to move media around to multiple instances and then syncing iOS device. With a shared Apple ID you just download what ever is missing directly from Apple.

iTunes Match also seems better suited for the shared Apple ID model.

Nothing wrong with that, of course... but not everyone feels the same way. Just because you like something, you can't assume everyone else does (see my reply to your first statement).
 
I'm begging some of you to proof read your posts.
Im trying to figure out who is "sadder", "i" for registering purely to reply to this stupid, unproductive comment or Kahnyl being a convicted, nothing better to do literary do gooder?

For the record, this is a retorical question, i already know the answer! Excuse my not proof reading my grammer or spelling. I apologise for the over use of "i" (which is not capitalised), "Sadder" (which appears wrong), "My" (speaking in first person).

Back to my life....
 
So I signed up for it. I didn't realize it wouldn't allow you to manually manage your music on your iPhone if you turn it on there.

So how does this work exactly? It says it'll delete your iTunes music library so I'm going to lose all the songs on there and the play lists? Will I have to re-download everything from the cloud?
 
playlist???

anybody know how i can get my smart playlist of recently added on my phone with the match service? is it possible
 
I'm an international pilot, spend lots of time away from home...and home sharing doesn't work when your not at home!
I assume that by "your," you mean "you're." No, home sharing wouldn't work that way, but neither would iTunes Match since it's only available in the US at the moment.

Secondly, any random family that is not Mac/Apple savvy will buy their first Apple product....say an iPad...set up an Apple ID. Then they say, "hey, this is great...let's get little Jimmy an iTouch for the Christmas!" Guess what, they use the same AppleID because obviously, mom & dad don't want to give little Jimmy's credit card info away and/or they are not familiar with home sharing and how it works across different Apple IDs. Not to mention you have to be 18 to register an Apple ID!
You don't have to have a separate iTunes ID to put music on your iPod Touch (there is no such thing as an "iTouch," by the way). You can just sync music directly onto your device in iTunes. I'm sure little Jimmy would be happy to show you how.

Finally, for all those newly married 20/30 somethings, who've had AppleIDs prior to getting married are now using home sharing because they cannot merge their songs, etc. into a single account (or they don't want to). Not a bad solution, except when your sitting in Europe and the wife says, "hey, checkout this app/song I just bought."
Again, you're relating this to your specific personal experience. Maybe iTunes Match isn't a good solution for you, but just because you happen to be an international pilot who isn't in the US half the time doesn't mean that's a common situation for the majority of people who use the service. I don't have an issue with you stating that there isn't a good solution to your personal problem right now, I just don't think it's wise to assume that "most" people feel identical to the way that you do.

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So I signed up for it. I didn't realize it wouldn't allow you to manually manage your music on your iPhone if you turn it on there.

So how does this work exactly? It says it'll delete your iTunes music library so I'm going to lose all the songs on there and the play lists? Will I have to re-download everything from the cloud?
It appears (from my less than two hours experience with it) that you have to choose one or the other. The assumption here, I guess, is that all of the music on your iPhone is already in your iTunes library (which would have been synced to the cloud if you're turning Match on in your phone). So in theory, you shouldn't be "losing" anything, just gaining the songs in your library that weren't there before.
 
Uploading art work / step 3 ---- 4 hours now... on 15,000 songs... is this normal? It's still going... just very very very slow....
 
I assume that by "your," you mean "you're."


You don't have to have a separate iTunes ID to put music on your iPod Touch (there is no such thing as an "iTouch," by the way).

So YOU'RE that guy!

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch

What's an iTunes ID?

Semantics with you is a battle I'll lose!

Suffice to say, you've shown your hand as the English police. You should also consider losing the "verb to be" in your statement of "that by 'your'" It should simply be "I assume the use of "your" means you're?" Also consider using proper punctuation when blasting others, so you don't look so pathetic trying to regulate other's use of grammar!

MANY families share a single Apple ID for purchases...end of story!
 
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Huh. This made me decide to make a smart playlist to filter out those songs so I could upgrade just the ones under 256kbps, and I found this:

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I thought songs under 100kbps were not eligible? I certainly have some that are ineligible and under 100kbps, but what about these?

Very interesting. Perhaps there are other factors that prevents certain songs from being uploaded outside of just the bit rate. I know that file type is one of them (it doesn't like MPEGs).

It would be nice if Apple had some clear definitions in this area.
 
MANY families share a single Apple ID for purchases...end of story!

This does seem a rather pointless argument.

The fact is that many families share a iTunes ID, and many others have separate ones. Some probably have a combination.

Which type makes up the majority is irrelevant. It's a lot of people either way.
 
Which type makes up the majority is irrelevant. It's a lot of people either way.
To say the service is wrong because it doesn't fit one group's needs - when it's "a lot of people either way" - is baseless. That's the only point I was making. There are a lot of people for whom the service does make a lot of sense.

Also, Apple's own policy is that each person should have their own ID:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37

Can I share my Apple ID with someone else?

You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other people. Each person should have their own Apple ID.

People will undoubtedly "match" stolen music with this service, too. Just because you can do something doesn't make the practice right.
 
So from what I am reading, if I have a playlist that is play count = 0 and then go into shuffle mode on my idevice, it will download songs to play that have never been played. But now once they are played will they get removed like when I sync USB?
 
To say the service is wrong because it doesn't fit one group's needs - when it's "a lot of people either way" - is baseless. That's the only point I was making. There are a lot of people for whom the service does make a lot of sense.

No, the point I was making was to be careful because Apple only allows 10 devices (this includes computers) to use iTunes Match's features.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13852255/

You replied back with a dumb comment about how this restriction is only enforced per Apple ID account. I replied back, that this was obvious. I really didn't think my devices would count against your account...but what do I know.

I simply stated MOST families share an Apple ID account for music purchases. In retrospect, if I would've used the word MANY, it might have prevented you from looking like a jerk. But I didn't and you did.
 
Huh. This made me decide to make a smart playlist to filter out those songs so I could upgrade just the ones under 256kbps, and I found this:

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I thought songs under 100kbps were not eligible? I certainly have some that are ineligible and under 100kbps, but what about these?

Limit is 96kbps. Any lower than that (i have one file at 90) and no go but 96 and up it works.
 
One surprise: Songs ripped below 96K are ineligible. Which brings up a thorny dilemma: I have a few songs [...] not eligible, because back in 2002 (or whatever) I didn't know what I was doing, and recorded it a 56K - before I lost my tape.

I know this sounds crazy, but did you try simply upsampling the song to 96k? The ineligibility is probably because they don't think they have enough data to detect the song, but if you converted it, iTunes wouldn't know the difference and would at least try to match it.
 
so what happens when I'm on a flight and want to play my music and don't have 3g or wifi?- When I turn off match or go into airplane mode I don't see my library...
 
It appears updating Genius will get you past the 4001 error...
Interesting - I misread this and started updating Genius while Match was "gathering information" and then thought maybe that wasn't a good idea, so stopped Genius update, and it stopped the entire process. I mean *both* of them, so it seems that Match and Genius are linked in some way.
 
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