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Apple Launches iTunes Match with Release of iTunes 10.5.1 [Updated]

PNutts said:
I'm sorry for this question. :) I'm sick and whacked on cold medicine and I don't want to goof this up.

To replace a song, I delete it from iTunes *and* delete the file from my computer? I assume what remains is the cloud "entry" that I use to download the song but I want to be sure. Thx.

Edit: I couldn't even get the quote right...
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There will be a checkbox to delete the song from iCloud. Obviously, make sure you don't delete it from iCloud as well.
 
iTunes match not working for me?
I keep getting an err "unknown iTunes store error -9810 try again later"?
I have tried all night on a very high speed connection with no luck.
What gives?

My $24.99 seem to have been processed fine :/
 
Good to see that iCloud is not being affected by the Match service, currently downloading my 2,000+ bought songs to stick on my Amazon storage for tomorrow. Still have 1,000 left to go. I don't think I'll be getting iTunes Match being that I'm strictly a CD/Vinyl person when it comes to music quality and I get more out of two AA batteries in a walkman than I do 8 hours on my iPhone/iPod.

Agree that 25,000 is not enough too. I have Spotify, but I use it for testing. If I play a song or album more than 5 times, I have to buy it. Which, in the end, is how it should be. Streaming/to go services were primarily made for the kids who weren't going to play a song after two months, and would be forced to get it from torrents because of parents not buying it for them via iTunes, etc. If you're going to be playing albums over and over, it's not an ideal solution. You're just paying $120 a year to hear stuff you already own.

I go into B&N and end up coming out with 10 CDs though, same thing at Half-Priced Books. It's all music I REALLY, REALLY like too from torrenting (which is hardly ever these days), Spotify, taping stuff on TuneIn Radio, etc. Sure, I don't listen to it all on a daily basis, but it's there for a long road trip or when I need it.
 
I don't wanna read through this whole thread and google a ton to figure this out.

This matches your music, puts it in the cloud, and when you stream it to whatever it will download the song to that device when the next one plays right?

I was thinking how awesome it would be if I could have my library streaming to my phone, but from what I've been seeing it doesn't do streaming only.

Does anyone know of a service that works with the iPhone that I could just stream my iTunes library? I don't want any downloading. My iPhone is only 16gb.
 
Drunken Master said:
I have a hard time seeing how there are more than 25,000 good songs in music history.

I've been pretty fervent about selectively collecting good music for the past 12 years and I have about 2,300 songs (some of which aren't very good).

There's only a handful of music archetypes that exist anyway. Everything else is a derivative of those few songs.
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Only 2,300 songs worth having? You are missing out on a lot of good music my friend.

All music is derivative. We only have the same 12 notes to worth with. The pleasure is seeing what others can do with those same 12 notes.

Open your mind...
 
I've had a great experience thus far... here's what I've noticed, maybe it'll clear up some confusion:


• It matched 850/1000 songs in my library.


• When enabling iTunes Match on my iPhone, it didn't wipe my entire library on my iPhone... instead, it put little download-clouds next to songs that were in my iTunes Match Cloud but not on my iPhone.

Tapping to play the songs, or tapping the little cloud, both download the song onto your device. When you tap to play the song, it'll start playing it while it's downloading, almost like it's streaming, but it is still just downloading the whole song - and it stays there on your iPhone/iPod Touch/etc. There's no pure "streaming" that I can see.


• Deleting "matched" songs goes like this:

- It gives you the "are you sure you want to delete it" like it always does. But now there is a check-box that asks if you want to delete the song from the cloud as well. This is how you can fully remove a song from everything/everywhere.

- I always choose to "keep file" when I delete music. What I noticed is that when I re download the newer 256k version, it does so, and it also still keeps my old song in the same exact location/folder as before.

Example: I deleted Bitter Sweet Symphony, which was 128k. I chose to "keep file." After downloading the newer version, I went to the folder's location in my iTunes Music folder, and there were two files: the older, 128k mp3 version, and the newer 256k AAC version. My iTunes library simply just ignores the 128k mp3 version.



• The the same exact process applies to your iDevices. Deleting a matched song will leave it there as a greyed out option with a cloud, and you can re download the 256k version. (in the case of the iDevices, I believe it actually deletes the older version, unlike your computer).

- What I noticed is that there is no automatic syncing when it comes to this process of "upgrading" your music. Upgrading a file on my computer to 256k didn't change my iPhone's file. But, deleting the iPhone's file and redownloading it on my iPhone will give me the newer version (obviously, as I stated before).



• As stated many times before, metadata isn't changed at all. All my play counts, titles, artists, messed-up names and what not, all stayed the exact same - upgrading to the new 256k versions or not.



This is obviously a pain if you want the upgraded songs on your iDevice... So what I'm wondering is:

If I turn off iTunes Match on my iPhone, upgrade my entire library on my computer to the way I want it to be (upgrading the lower bit rate songs to the newer 256k versions), and then sync my iPhone to my computer... and finally just reenable iTunes Match after I've synced it, I should have all of the newer 256k versions on my iPhone, correct?

That seems like the best way to do it... because it's tough to tell what's been matched and what the bit rate of songs are on the iDevices - and even then, doing it 1 by 1 would be a pain.
 
So was anybody able to subscribe with iTunes Gift card with apple ID, which never had a US credit card?
 
my results with 24k songs was roughly as follows:

71% matched
23% uploaded (mostly classical music not on iTunes)
6% errors (I hope this gets fixed with time and subsequent matching attempts)
<1% duplicates/not eligible due too low bit rates (fixed by converting the files or deleting the duplicates)
 
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JohnDoe98 said:
my results with 24k songs was roughly as follows:

71% matched
23% uploaded (mostly classical music not on iTunes)
6% errors (I hope this gets fixed with time and subsequent matching attempts)
<1% duplicates/not eligible due too low bit rates (fixed by converting the files or deleting the duplicates)
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Was your music properly tagged?
 
OK. Here's my confession. I have downloaded a lot of music in the past.

I mean, I buy tonnes of Music in terms of physical copies. My wardrobe is full of vinyls, CDs and DVDs instead of clothes with full discographies of more than a score of bands. But yes, I have downloaded music in the past to try out and have never bothered about it again. I'm not saying that I don't listen to it; its just that I'm haven't really bothered buying it.

Story cut short, do I upload the entire stuff or should I create a new library with the material I have already purchased?
 
daxomni said:
Sure, why not. We're already the world's Guinea Pig for testing persistent herbicides, insecticides, pesticides, genetically modified grains and produce, cloned meat products, artificial hormones, indiscriminate antibiotics and dozens of other likely neuro-disrupters and carcinogens.
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Yuck
 
dethmaShine said:
OK. Here's my confession. I have downloaded a lot of music in the past.

I mean, I buy tonnes of Music in terms of physical copies. My wardrobe is full of vinyls, CDs and DVDs instead of clothes with full discographies of more than a score of bands. But yes, I have downloaded music in the past to try out and have never bothered about it again. I'm not saying that I don't listen to it; its just that I'm haven't really bothered buying it.

Story cut short, do I upload the entire stuff or should I create a new library with the material I have already purchased?
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Leave it the way it is and let iTunes match do it's thing.
 
Can anyone here report if iTunes will match Chinese music on the computer? Does iTunes US even have any collection of Chinese music on its servers?
 
CosmoPilot said:
I simply stated MOST families share an Apple ID account for music purchases. In retrospect, if I would've used the word MANY, it might have prevented you from looking like a jerk. But I didn't and you did.
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Haha, I'm sorry if someone pointing out the obvious to you makes you feel like they're a "jerk." Insecure much?

In retrospect, if you had used the word SOME, then you wouldn't have looked like someone with an agenda. I do not believe there are that many people using Apple's services in a way that goes contrary to their own policy. Then again, there are murderers and rapists and all kinds of people that do things that I wouldn't do. Good luck with your iTunes Match endeavors, and hopefully you've learned something for the next time you sign up for one of these kinds of services.
 
lsquare said:
Can anyone here report if iTunes will match Chinese music on the computer? Does iTunes US even have any collection of Chinese music on its servers?
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Some of mine has been matched, but mostly the uber-popular stuff. Don't expect an extensive selection on iTunes.
 
lsquare said:
Can anyone here report if iTunes will match Chinese music on the computer? Does iTunes US even have any collection of Chinese music on its servers?
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I don't know about Chinese music, but it matched a lot of my Japanese music just fine and the artist and title were both kana/kanji.
 
Ok... It's been going now for 17 hours.... It's going real slow.. Should I stop it and start over? I have 15,000 songs....
 
Woke up this morning to find iTunes in the middle of uploading "1850 of 9433 items" after running about 12 hours. It matched about 12,000 songs, so a bit better than 50% accurate. Certainly not anywhere near as easy or fast as Apple made it out to be. It'll probably be several days before this is done uploading all these tracks. It's been uploading the same song since I first looked at it when I got up this morning. SLOOOOOWWWW
 
I'll wait till all of you are done before I even try. I'll spend the next few days fixing my Meta data and delete all my brothers disco crap that I don't want anyway (he already has his copy, lazy twit doesn't want to rip his own music) and then just let it go over the weekend.
 
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