You're correct, but listening skills do improve. I know I listen for and hear details in music that I didn't before.
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Apple Launches iTunes Match with Release of iTunes 10.5.1 [Updated]
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You're correct, but listening skills do improve. I know I listen for and hear details in music that I didn't before.
Wasn't aware of the cache approach being used. What size does it use, and can it be changed/managed?
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Not to mention people's tastes change to accommodate music with more complex arrangements/production, and people also get in a financial situation that allows them to buy more expensive equipment (that can expose more encoding flaws).
I'm not talking about hearing, I'm talking about the brain's listening skills. The more you carefully listen the more you notice. When mp3s first came out I had a difficult time hearing the artifacts but over the years they have become more and more obvious to me.
That aside, there were MP3 sales at 128k including iTunes itself. And for many users it's a good deal to get Match just to replace old iTunes tracks with ones without DRM (in addition to higher bitrate).
If that's not their intention they shouldn't be promoting the upgrade feature, which they are. And really, what does it add to the discussion to point out that you think people's complaints are silly? The service should be able to match songs that are sold in the iTunes store, period. There are a number of reasons to be disappointed if it's uploading those instead of matching. You sell something, it should do what it promises.
I guess you and I have different definitions of what's reasonable then. I would hope a company would want to keep users happy and make that a priority over sticking to some policy that's buried in their documentation somewhere. I doubt many users are even aware of that policy.
Well that's still a mention. And when Apple first made the announcement they absolutely pointed out the upgrade including downloading the higher bitrate files to a computer, with no DRM.
And the ability to download these higher bit rate tracks is built in to iTunes so it is an intended function.
I really have no use for iTunes Match other than upgrading these tracks. I've mentioned elsewhere that back in the 128Kbps days, I bought the Complete Depeche Mode. It was pulled from the iTunes store at 128Kbps and was never offered in iTunes + as the Complete Dylan/U2/Led Zeppelin collections were, all of which I purchased and upgraded to iTunes + at cost.
The only one again not available was the Complete Depeche Mode but with iTunes Match, it is. I've used iTunes Match to upgrade the tracks but there were still about 100 or so tracks in the collection not available in +, mostly the unreleased that are still not available in the iTunes store to date.
I don't see a problem whatsoever in doing what I did and neither should anyone else. The Complete Depeche Mode was $199 back in the day and it should have been made available for + upgrading as the Complete U2 was even though it was pulled from the store before it was upgradeable.
Explicit Version of songs
Has anyone figured out how to make sure you iOS device uses the explicit version of songs? When I accessed a matched album from my iPhone, it began playing the clean version of that song. Obviously I think I can handle a few cuss words . . .
Thanks,
Brian
Has anyone figured out how to make sure you iOS device uses the explicit version of songs? When I accessed a matched album from my iPhone, it began playing the clean version of that song. Obviously I think I can handle a few cuss words . . .
Thanks,
Brian
Looks like it's a bug, I haven't seen a way to fix it or make it more likely to get the right versions. Definitely report all wrong versions to Apple.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
Heck, Apple should add a "report wrong match" INSIDE of the iTunes app, from a right click on a song.
Doesn't iTunes have a HK music store? If so, wouldn't the Chinese music selection be huge?
iCloud Status - Purchased / Waiting
I have about 100 songs of 3500 that are showing as iCloud Status purchased. I never purchased these and have never heard of most of these artists. They all show as Purchased AAC audio file. Has anyone else had this occur? I am hoping some of my actual songs were not replaced with 100 songs that I never had and don't want. I'm going to have to compare the created date for the files with those on my other Mac to see if Match replaced my songs with these. Anyone seeing anything similar?
Also, the match is complete but about 50 songs still say waiting. I've restarted iTunes several times but they status doesn't change? Any ideas?
Thanks
I have about 100 songs of 3500 that are showing as iCloud Status purchased. I never purchased these and have never heard of most of these artists. They all show as Purchased AAC audio file. Has anyone else had this occur? I am hoping some of my actual songs were not replaced with 100 songs that I never had and don't want. I'm going to have to compare the created date for the files with those on my other Mac to see if Match replaced my songs with these. Anyone seeing anything similar?
Also, the match is complete but about 50 songs still say waiting. I've restarted iTunes several times but they status doesn't change? Any ideas?
Thanks
Yes, but it's also a way of keeping your old music without deleting it during the early stages of this, clearly, confusing product/service.
I don't know about you all, but my PC could easily have 80gb of music added to it - and that's just using your 80gb example... 80gb is a LOT of music. You're talking 12,000 songs (assuming 256k bit rate sizes), or 6,000 that would be "doubled."
There may be a few people around here with that amount of music, but I'll tell you, not many people have 12,000 songs. And if you do, you probably already have an external drive solution or something that gives you at least 500gb.
Did I add abut 6gb to my iTunes folder? Yes. But did I ensure that all of my old files are still safe, and in the exact same spot as before? Yes.
It's strange when I go to properties, about 80 of them are showing as Kind: Purchased AAC audit file and have a .m4a extension while about 20 of them are showing as Kind: MPEG audit file with a .mp3 extension. However, they all just are listed as Purchased under iCloud Status yet none of these 100 songs were purchased by me.
Then you didn't get it after those billion times because that is not how it works on the iPhone. Indeed it works exactly like he said it does: it downloads each song you play (simultaneous play and download). It does not delete tracks; your temporary cache comment is simply incorrect.
The only time it streams from a temporary cache and does not download is in iTunes and on an Apple TV, the former of which you can download but you must choose to do that separately (vs. just playing a track).
Please get it straight yourself before making these kinds of misleading and incorrect statements (let alone chastising someone who DID make a correct comment).
Michael
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That post was wrong: no cache is used on iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch devices. It always simultaneously downloads and plays. Once downloaded it does not delete it unless you tell it to. This way you should always have your most played and recently played songs on the device. People would scream if their downloaded tracks randomly disappeared for no apparent reason, as they try to play a song at 35,000' with no Net access.
It only uses a cache in iTunes (and ATV). It is not configurable that I can see but I would assume it is not large. You can easily download tracks instead of streaming in iTunes if you want the track on the machine.
Michael
Yeah, I think there's some terminology misuse and/or inconsistency too.
From an iOS device, there's a cache, but more probably more accurately, a stream buffer, in that the downloading file has some amount sent before playing (just like most streaming mechanisms), but in this case, the played portion isn't cleared, it's stored (until the file is complete).
Though nobody I believe so far has seen it, I'm sure there's some kind of "check space" call made before each file is sent, and some kind of friendly message like "You do not have enough space to download this iCloud file ..."
Slightly off topic side note: got an Apple TV on the way for enjoying our music on the HT setup downstairs (among other uses)
I figured I'd give this iTunes match a try. Pretty interesting process and I now have over 3000 songs in the cloud.
The only pain is the upload speed from my cable modem for the songs that are not matched. It pretty much gives you access to your entire library on the go. This music is also available on my 2 Apple Tvs which is kind of nice. I don't have to have my library shared.
What I would love to have someday is built in integration to iCloud to my car stereo. It would have to somehow work wirelessly or via some satellite download and would need car stereo manufacturers to build it in like satellite radio.
Also some day, if all of my music, movies, and tv shows would be available in the cloud that would be cool too. The thing I like is everything you have is kept local in iTunes in the event you don't want the service anymore.
The only pain is the upload speed from my cable modem for the songs that are not matched. It pretty much gives you access to your entire library on the go. This music is also available on my 2 Apple Tvs which is kind of nice. I don't have to have my library shared.
What I would love to have someday is built in integration to iCloud to my car stereo. It would have to somehow work wirelessly or via some satellite download and would need car stereo manufacturers to build it in like satellite radio.
Also some day, if all of my music, movies, and tv shows would be available in the cloud that would be cool too. The thing I like is everything you have is kept local in iTunes in the event you don't want the service anymore.
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I thought I heard that mentioned elsewhere but that could also be wrong. If it doesn't delete tracks when full, what does it do when streaming and the device gets full? Can someone test that out?
Nice, but...
So at this point, even if you listened to music 24/7 you haven't had time to hear all those tunes on that phone.... Just sayin'
I agree though that it would be nice to have the option to pay more to store more, but really, you should be able to find <25k songs that you really want to have access to from the cloud.
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It's pretty simple really. This service enables you to change your music you listen to on your iOS device on the fly, from anywhere. Synching sucks, and having access to all your stuff within a few seconds (or minutes) from anywhere is awesome. So far I love iTunes Match.
So at this point, even if you listened to music 24/7 you haven't had time to hear all those tunes on that phone.... Just sayin'
I agree though that it would be nice to have the option to pay more to store more, but really, you should be able to find <25k songs that you really want to have access to from the cloud.
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It's pretty simple really. This service enables you to change your music you listen to on your iOS device on the fly, from anywhere. Synching sucks, and having access to all your stuff within a few seconds (or minutes) from anywhere is awesome. So far I love iTunes Match.
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Arrrgh
Almost finished after a day and night when itunes crashed.
It told me to sign out and back in, said I was matched to a different library and asked if I wanted to match this one.
Started all over again.
Arrrgh.
Almost finished after a day and night when itunes crashed.
It told me to sign out and back in, said I was matched to a different library and asked if I wanted to match this one.
Started all over again.
Arrrgh.
No it is not. If you listen to half a song, well half the song is left downloaded. You can plainly see this in the download indicator.
It does not use a cache. The "cache" is the actual downloaded track. But it is not downloaded.
Michael
During the beta it skipped to the next song. I really don't feel like trying it again: you can see partially downloaded songs still out there, days after you played a portion of a track. Those tracks are not deleted either. On iOS it is download. Simultaneous playback and download, but download nonetheless. And there is no difference between tracks downloaded by playing them and those downloaded en masse (by downloading an entire playlist, for example). They are not messing with those downloaded tracks in either case--nor should they.
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Streaming costs money
Streaming when you're on a cell signal costs money. iTunes match automatically downloads a song to your device when you click on it, and for me, on a 3G connection, it starts playing about 10 seconds after it starts the download. In my opinion it's better than streaming because if you want to hear the song again it's already on your device, and if you don't want it there, you just remove it and it goes back to the cloud.
Streaming when you're on a cell signal costs money. iTunes match automatically downloads a song to your device when you click on it, and for me, on a 3G connection, it starts playing about 10 seconds after it starts the download. In my opinion it's better than streaming because if you want to hear the song again it's already on your device, and if you don't want it there, you just remove it and it goes back to the cloud.