thanks. not sure what i'm doing wrong then. I removed them by going into my iPhone's music library via itunes, highlighting everything, then deleting (which just removed the local copy). However for some reason, the cloud copies for all 57 of those albums are not showing up at all in my iCloud library on my iPhone to be redownloaded.
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Apple Launches iTunes Match with Release of iTunes 10.5.1 [Updated]
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thanks. not sure what i'm doing wrong then. I removed them by going into my iPhone's music library via itunes, highlighting everything, then deleting (which just removed the local copy). However for some reason, the cloud copies for all 57 of those albums are not showing up at all in my iCloud library on my iPhone to be redownloaded.
Yep, started last night. After a while seemed stuck so I stopped and started. After going all night it was at the end of the progress bar but still on "analyzing library". Restarted it again, now it's at a third and not moving again. And I'm not optimistic it will be done with that step when I get home from work tonight.
Tried it once and the experience was awful. Does HS support ratings? Playlists? Syncing to devices?
And as others have mentioned, it can be impractical for a child to have his own account based on the credit card thing.
When releasing a service, isn't it better to fit as many users needs as possible? I'd say a service that doesn't work well for a large group of users needs some work.
There is no more music sync option once Match is activated. Which is why I have the exact same question as you - playlists based on things like play count, when do they get updated and is it possible to have the files copied over automatically or do you have to keep telling it to manually download them?
But do you have a credit card on file? It seems you can pay with a gift card but no matter what, you need to have a US credit card on file for your account or you can't sign up.
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Match was advertised that if a song existed in the iTunes Store, it would be matched. Period. Whatever someone's reason for signing up for match - whether it be to upgrade the bitrate or DRM status of their library, or simply not have to upload 50% of their library, this is how it was advertised.
Songs that exist in the store should be matched. Songs that don't, aren't. Simple. Songs that exist in the store that aren't matching is a bug. This discussion of "match wasn't designed to legitimize your pirated or poorly-ripped music" is beside the point.
MobileMe part 2....
It's obvious this is why the release was delayed from late October.
Songs that exist in the store should be matched. Songs that don't, aren't. Simple. Songs that exist in the store that aren't matching is a bug. This discussion of "match wasn't designed to legitimize your pirated or poorly-ripped music" is beside the point.
MobileMe part 2....
It's obvious this is why the release was delayed from late October.
If you are doing it in the iPhone's device section in iTunes that is your problem. If you can do that you don't have iTunes Match turned on on the iPhone.
If you are doing it in your iTunes database that only deletes the local copy on that computer and does not affect the iPhone.
Michael
That was a problem during the beta but all of mine are now properly matched.
It is not a family-friendly conspiracy I can assure you.
Michael
I assume this is the best way to report problems with matching? They don't have Match listed as a choice, hopefully it will be added soon.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
Yes, I have a US credit card on file. I've had a US-based iTunes account since the iTunes store first opened.
However, in the US, I don't believe you absolutely have to have a credit card on file to redeem an iTunes gift card. I think that was once true, but Apple backed off of that some time ago. Here are directions for setting up an iTunes account with an iTunes gift card and NOT using a credit card:
http://specialchildren.about.com/od/familyissues/ss/itunesgift.htm
I do not know if the same applies outside the United States. And if you already have a non-US credit card on file, I'm not sure how that would be handled. But I can assure you that when signed up for iTunes Match yesterday, the $25 was deducted from my GIFT CARD balance, NOT from my credit card.
Mark
P.S. Since I responded to your message here, I will not be responding to the same question you sent through my blog email address.
You don't have to have a CC to redeem a gift card. But you absolutely DO need a number on file to do Match. Partly it's to verify country and partly because the service is set up for auto renewal.
Oh come on now, this is starting to get silly. 128kbps was "good enough" for you three years ago and now suddenly your ears can hear the glorious fidelity of high bitrate audio?
Either quality mattered and you made sure you encoded your material at a proper bitrate (and thus the iTunes Match service won't gain you anything), or it's just not that big a deal to you (and thus the iTunes Match service won't gain you anything). Either approach is OK, but the end result is the same.
I now have the space available on my iPhone since I have a 64GB 4S now. Yes, I am now interested in higher bit rates because of that. The original iPhone back then was 8GB and the 16GB wasn't out till February 2008.
Within reason, sure. But I really don't believe that the majority of users have multiple Apple IDs. In fact, I would wager it's the vast minority.
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I don't see how having more space on your device has an effect on your tolerance for crudely processed music.
Anyway, the discussion is moot because the whole point of moving the audio to the cloud is so that you don't have to have any space on your device in the first place. iTunes Match allows you to listen to your entire library of music without having to have a physical copy on your phone. Guess you should've stuck with the 8GB model.
Music downloaded from iTunes Match does take up space on the phone since it is downloaded to the phone. It only plays as it downloads, it is not a streaming service.
I'm still confused as to how iTunes Match works with live music? Will it be unrecognizable to system and just upload song?
Well when the same question is asked 10 times or more that tends to happen.
Michael
Assuming no error occurs, you get one of two results:
1) Song matches and a "cloud version" is allocated for your use
2) Song does not match and your copy is uploaded
So your question is really "Do you think my live recordings will be matched?"
My answer is , I have no f'in clue
If they're available on CD, and not incredibly obscure? Probably. My Alice in Chains Unplugged has been matched. However, some of my bootleg Guided By Voices I suspect won't be Well, yeah. People's ears get better and hear artifacts they didn't notice earlier. Plus back in the day people may have heard the difference but ripped smaller because device storage was so small and hard drives much pricier than they are now. Not to mention that codecs have improved as well at the same bitrate. And while it's been three years for that guy, it's been much longer for others of us, I have mp3s as old as 2009.
People are free to decide why they want this service and what they want out of it, it's not up to you to declare that others aren't getting anything out of it.
And trying to support situations like single user/account, account per family, or people with multiple accounts isn't within reason? In general I'd say one of Apple's biggest weaknesses is handling shared hardware/software/media.
Cloud access is one advantage of the service, but it's certainly not the only one. Upgrading files was even hyped in the initial announcement and is still promoted.
The third possibility is that it screws up and matches a live version to a studio version. Apple definitely needs to put all the resources they can into improving the matching.
Hahaha, well, yeah, that was my "Assuming no error occurs", which I meant as the actual error code, or a mismatch, or anything else funky.
Did you get some live-to-studio substitutions? I've got some additional live music I haven't added to my library yet. I see (and hear
) my Songs in the Attic appears to have matched fine too.[edit]
I wanted to say I agree with your assessment of Apple's ID/sharing/etc., right now there's a few things that are a PITA. I'd like to see a seamless, across the board sharing (or personal) media control. Even right now, I want to be able to share Photostreams, but not any other iCloud data with the wife ... can't do.
It downloads the file to a cache, and when that cache is filled, it deletes previous tracks so that you may continue to listen to new music. And we've been over this a billion times, but you can listen to the songs as they cache to your device; it is absolutely a streaming service.
CultofMac has several articles that say iTunes Match, as well as Genius both match songs using Gracenote musicID.
Here is a snippet from the Gracenote website on how it matches files:
Here is a snippet from the Gracenote website on how it matches files:
The last time I checked, people's hearing gets worse as they age - not better.
You are free to use the service as it exists any way you like. My original comment was a reply to someone who was complaining that it wasn't able to "match" all of his music and thus he couldn't get the "free upgrade" side effect for his files. I simply stated that I believe the main intent of iTunes Match is to provide access to your music from the cloud, not to upgrade old files you have on your computer. Yes, that is one of the results of using the service and no, I don't have a problem with people using it that way. I just think it's silly to complain about it when I don't believe that is the point of what they're trying to do.
Not when they've explicitly stated that it is their policy to support one account per person only. Can you find loopholes around that? Sure. But it's not Apple's responsibility to find ways to cater to you when you use the service in a way contrary to their intent.
Perhaps Macrumors (and the people who post here) "hyped" that side-effect, but Apple's website doesn't. The only mention of this is the statement that you can "play back matched songs from iCloud at 256 kbps even if your original copy was of lower quality." There's no mention made about downloading those songs and replacing your originals to recreate your music library. That is simply something that people are taking advantage of since the cached copy is Apple's version of the song (which happens to be 256kbps).