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I was just expecting a higher screen res, a better GPU or a SolidState.
And what did I get? A thunderbolt... :(
 
it's the same battery, they just took other tests.

Yes its the same battery... but that doesn't mean they just took other tests.
I still worry that the new HW may use up the battery more quickly. We'll
have to wait for 3rd-party analyses to tell us how the new and old MBPs
compare in terms of battery life. We can HOPE that its just a difference
in testing procedures... but we don't yet KNOW if that is true.
 
Sorry to thread jack a bit, but I have the mid 2010 mbp that I just purchased a week ago. Would you guys upgrade. Now that I think about it more. I might do some light gaming. If thats the case should I get the top 13", even though it doesn't have a discrete graphics card, or op for the 15". I just don't like the size of the 15". but whats my best bet?
 
SuperDrive

What is with Apple and the 8x SuperDrive? Haven't after market CD / DVD burners much faster for a considerable number of years now (x52?)
 
OK, I'll admit - Thunderbolt sounds freakin' awesome.

Now that is bad ass.


Sorry to thread jack a bit, but I have the mid 2010 mbp that I just purchased a week ago. Would you guys upgrade. Now that I think about it more. I might do some light gaming. If thats the case should I get the top 13", even though it doesn't have a discrete graphics card, or op for the 15". I just don't like the size of the 15". but whats my best bet?

Ask them if they will take it back. One week is pretty close to the new release. You might get lucky and get a sympathetic geek on the line. :)
 
Did anybody else notice the subwoofer listed for the speakers on the macbook pros? I never paid attention to their speakers beforehand, so I wonder if that's new. I know that the iMacs do not have them, but the iMacs have built in dinky amplifiers for the speakers.
 
That's the whole point of these Macs, they differentiate the models this way. For example, the Airs have a better resolution and ssds, the 15" mbps have discrete graphics, and the 17" has the best spec options. Why buy a 15" mbp (other than the screen real estate), if the 13" has discrete graphics and hi-res screen? That's also why the 13" didn't drop in weight; it would make the 13" mbas less distinctive.

As annoying as it is, from a selling standpoint, it is quite good.

Except that I had money ready for a lower weight, hi-res, matte MBP13. The MBA13 is underpowered, glossy and has no Ethernet w/o dongle.

So no money for you, Apple...
 
You're mistaken. The original fiber number was 100Mbps. 10Mbps is accurate for copper.

The bigger issue is that if you invest in a copper based solution today, when fiber becomes common in 12-24 months will you be SOL?

Your M should be a G, but other than that it's correct. The number is theoretical though, just like the numbers that USB releases so actual results may vary. You are most likely to be limited by the device you are connecting though vs what the cable can transfer, especially when talking about external HDs.
 
Great.

Now the entry model 13 inch has almost the same processor as before and a shorter battery life.
:confused:
 
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Is that worth a $1000 (Dell XPS 15 vs MBP 15 at same specs)???

You were so close. You almost made it though the post without hyperbole. Show me that Dell XPS 15 with lightpeak/thunderbolt? Oh and the dual integrated and discreet GPUs? And I suspect it has a backlit keyboard too?

Granted the differences may / may not justify the price increase depending on the users preference, but to claim they are "identical" is hog wash.
 
Sorry to thread jack a bit, but I have the mid 2010 mbp that I just purchased a week ago. Would you guys upgrade. Now that I think about it more. I might do some light gaming. If thats the case should I get the top 13", even though it doesn't have a discrete graphics card, or op for the 15". I just don't like the size of the 15". but whats my best bet?

I just told my friend to send her machine back. She did. So should you.
 
My thoughts:

The Good:
- The CPU update across all MBP's was a pleasant surprise. I was expecting i3's in the MBP 13's and dual-cores i5's in the MBP 15's.

The Neutral
- Thunderbolt - who really cares. This won't be useful anytime for at least 1-2 years. I think it will eventually be pretty nice when we are syncing 500gb ipods and DSLR's with huge memory cards, but not right now.
- Screen resolution: I have no idea why people are complaining. 1280x800 is PLENTY for a 13" screen. Any smaller than that and you'll be squinting. I run 1280x800 on my 15" now and it's just a little too low-res for me.

The Bad
- Graphics cards across the board are a joke. Intel 3000? It's performance is on par with chips 3 years old+. The MBP 15's higher level chip is ok, but not so much the entry level.
- No IPS panels for the screen yet. This was really disappointing. I don't care about resolution all that much, but at least give me something with good color reproduction and viewing angles.
- No SSD standard? Come on.
 
Sorry to thread jack a bit, but I have the mid 2010 mbp that I just purchased a week ago. Would you guys upgrade. Now that I think about it more. I might do some light gaming. If thats the case should I get the top 13", even though it doesn't have a discrete graphics card, or op for the 15". I just don't like the size of the 15". but whats my best bet?

i think you should keep what you have. if you use an external monitor with the higher resolutions you will see great performance on the card you have. not so much with the intel graphics chip. it does ok at its 13 inch resolution but crank it up on an external monitor = crap.
 
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I think the 13" is going to be dead duck for most pro users. I'll reserve final judgement till I see benchmarks. The appearance of quad core's is earlier than I expected. But reading The thunderbolt page is interesting and something that I hope takes off. Silly name not withstanding.
 
From Apple's site:
MacBook Air: The next generation of MacBooks.
MacBook Pro: Our most advanced notebooks.

Kinda contradicting themselves, don't they?
 
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OVERPRICED. FFS.
 
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