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Apple Launches MacBook Pros with Thunderbolt, Quad Core CPUs, AMD GPUs
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iOS is resolution independent, they're supposedly going to introduce something similar for OS X Lion which will look like a 1440 x 900 but be something ridiculously higher, just scaled up so you don't have to squint to read or see anything.
Maybe. I'm not sure I understand exactly what the target market is for each of these machines. Is it always the case that the people who have higher computational demands also wanted a physically bigger case?
Work.
I often work 36-40 hr shifts at the hospital. Currently I bring my 13" Air to work for personal use, and love the battery life. I believe Apple axed the backlit keyboard on the new Airs to up battery life.
I hate having to be plugged into the wall.
Who pays for Applecare?
Just buy two or three (assuming your a company or have friends who also want one) and if you can't get Applecare thrown in go to another store.
with the 13inch you should be able to play on medium@60fps or high@20-30,
with the 6750, you should get high@45-60fps-ultra@30-45fps
Anyone got the 512GB SSD option?
Gonna get a 15" but debating HDD options, will be doing mostly virtualisation running a few VMs for testing various Linux things and also a windows VM for work.
So wondering if a SSD will make that much difference, the prices crazy!
Gonna get a 15" but debating HDD options, will be doing mostly virtualisation running a few VMs for testing various Linux things and also a windows VM for work.
So wondering if a SSD will make that much difference, the prices crazy!
With Apple's typical complacency about thermal management, this baby ought to run nice and cool. (NOT)
If you can return it, you should return it and get a new MBP 13". You won't get an old 15" cheap (refurbished) for quite a while.
Really? If you want light, go with the Air. This is light enough, and more importantly, it's really fast! The only thing I can see complaining about is the graphics card, but it's no worse than before, it's simply not an upgrade.
jW
here it says $2299
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/sony-vaio-z-series/4505-3121_7-33976156.html#reviewPage1
and here it says $2099
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/sony-vaio-z.aspx
and here it says $2099
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5762&review=sony+vaio+z
its not on sony's website
Then compare to the new sony vaio s series (linky) that's just been announced and will retail around £800-1000 depending on version and spec versus the 13" pro which is £1000 in UK. They have pretty much identical specs but the sony also has switchable discreet graphics (ati 6470M) and in my view doesn't look too bad in black (I've seen a lot worse on a windows machine).
It really does raise the question why doesn't the 13 inch have the discreet gpu like the others in my opinion
As to the new products, the 15 inch with quad isn't too bad value although I'd really love apple to release a 'pro' laptop with a quadro/firepro gpu for my needs rather than sticking with consumer gpu's (not going into argument for/against etc).
Although I have to say if it's not got quadro etc (I do cad) then I really don't need the extra cpu or bulk so I'd be going down to the air's most likely.
ahhaha joke that is not worth that price..macbook pro is MUCH prettier and has quad core now so ha!
Helps performance to keep resolution the same because the vid card is a sideways move.
MIght show decreases in benchmarks if resolution was upped.
You call 23.8% faster "not even close" ? 10% faster is barely noticeable. 24% is a modest improvement, IMO, but nothing to write home about. Let me know when it's 2x faster. The availability of a quad-core on an Apple notebook is worth something, but it's not enough and the prices are too high, especially on the 13" "MBP" (what's pro about integrated Intel graphics?).
Other than the CPU improvement and "Thunderbolt" (currently useless/worthless since there are no devices to use with it), I see slow GPUs, slow hard drives, no ram improvements, no Blu-Ray support and no USB3.
Sorry, but my 3TB drive does not support Thunderbolt, but DOES support USB3 and this computer has a USB2 port on it. Why not make that a USB3 port instead? It's freaking stupid to carry a USB2 port when it could be a USB3 port regardless of whether Thunderbolt is present. Obviously, they chose not to include USB3 ports on the Thunderbolt bus as previously theorized on here.
As for mini-display port...NO ONE uses it but Apple and they offer exactly one lousy monitor. WTF is the point? Then they combine that with the Thunderbolt bus so your display is overlapped with devices that routinely may get plugged/unplugged. Apple's monitors won't pass-through Thunderbolt so you'd have to plug the connector into the device (e.g. a hard drive) that does pass it through. Can you imagine having to disconnect your monitor every time you plug/unplug a hard drive? What a royal PITA, all because Apple couldn't be bothered to give Thunderbolt its own connector or use the USB3 style connector? (shakes head at the stupidity of it all)
Apple could at least provide TWO Thunderbolt connectors so that one could be used as a dedicated display port without having to worry about moving the connection while daisy-chaining other devices (and/or to use two external monitors when docked without having to share/daisy-chain cables (which a monitor wouldn't likely support so you'd need a break-out box to create two ports).
Meanwhile, "Lion" won't have OpenGL 4.x (only 3.2) so forget about getting any kind of parity with Windows games on that end (4.x has support to match the latest DirectX features to improve things in that area) even with the same hardware. So Apple is behind again. Apple should be leading on all fronts. They're more worried about their phone line, it seems. (and leading first with Thunderbolt won't help much since there's no device support out there yet).
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Spoilt brats are impossible to please
I haven't read every comment (heaven help anyone who tries that) but based on the few I've read and the overwhelming negative votes, I conclude that MacRumors readers are, on the whole, a bunch of spoilt brats.
Let's see People want (1) the fastest, most power-hungry CPUs and GPUs on the planet, AND (2) unsurpassed battery life. If you think like this, you don't need a new laptop. You need a new attitude.
I'd also be really curious to know what most of the whingers actually NEED all these specs for. I live in the real world where I make a real living from my Mac and I'm still doing it on a 2007 model MacBook Pro.
The updates look pretty good from where I'm standing.
I haven't read every comment (heaven help anyone who tries that) but based on the few I've read and the overwhelming negative votes, I conclude that MacRumors readers are, on the whole, a bunch of spoilt brats.
Let's see People want (1) the fastest, most power-hungry CPUs and GPUs on the planet, AND (2) unsurpassed battery life. If you think like this, you don't need a new laptop. You need a new attitude.
I'd also be really curious to know what most of the whingers actually NEED all these specs for. I live in the real world where I make a real living from my Mac and I'm still doing it on a 2007 model MacBook Pro.
The updates look pretty good from where I'm standing.
You're a genius =) I am absolutely doing that when my new MBP 13" arrives. I need to think of a name first tho...
I'm looking at buying the high end 13' mbp and is just curious what everyonet thinks. I go to college so i use it for obvious reason (papers, presentations, surfing, etc) but i also dj (Djay program) and play one video game (SC2) and rip movies and do a little video editing. My question is what kind of hardware is most reasonable for this kind of use (RAM) (Hard Drive)? I defintely will go with a ssd but at what capacity is good enough? thanks for your guys imput im excited to take the pludge in the MAC world
Then compare to the new sony vaio s series (linky) that's just been announced and will retail around £800-1000 depending on version and spec versus the 13" pro which is £1000 in UK. They have pretty much identical specs but the sony also has switchable discreet graphics (ati 6470M) and in my view doesn't look too bad in black (I've seen a lot worse on a windows machine).
It really does raise the question why doesn't the 13 inch have the discreet gpu like the others in my opinion
As to the new products, the 15 inch with quad isn't too bad value although I'd really love apple to release a 'pro' laptop with a quadro/firepro gpu for my needs rather than sticking with consumer gpu's (not going into argument for/against etc).
Although I have to say if it's not got quadro etc (I do cad) then I really don't need the extra cpu or bulk so I'd be going down to the air's most likely.
that thing is:
thicker
Heavier
and much less battery life.
it also doesn't have:
multi touch trackpad
lightpeak,
HD webcam
aluminum unibody,
or MAC OS.
the 13" pro doesn't have discrete to save battery life, and costs.