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You are likely doing just fine. The whole world of tech got by just fine for decades with owning their own backup strategies before some entrepreneurs decided to try to monetize storage in cloud services sold by subscription.

I blame the guys who turned the most abundant thing on the planet- water- into a billion dollar industry... a product that given a small amount of time in many places in the world... falls from the sky for free. I think water sales inspired tech people to think:
  • "How could we monetize things generally included in stuff we sell one time so we can get paid over and over... like a rental model?"
  • "Let's wedge ourselves in between people and their data. Hard drive storage is getting so cheap. There's hardly any margin in it."
  • "Hmmm, we can't call it storage or they may think about buying their own HDDs."
  • "Let's call it the cloud."
  • "Dave, you are a geniu$."
  • "Don't you think asking them to trust total strangers to caretake their data will be an issue?"
  • "Nah, just sling words like security and privacy around a lot and integrate it into our apps."
  • "Have it turned on by default so they are using it without even realizing they are."
  • "Complete Geniu$. Drinks are on me."
Just be sure you have at least 1 up to date backup on site and at least 1 pretty up to date backup offsite and regularly swap the two. Time Machine on Macs makes this very easy.
and convince people that their cat videos are really important because cats are family and those videos need to be stored at 4 different locations and two should be in Cloud.
 
Too bad you can't use the TV app to stream iTunes DRM content from your iCloud space. I have a personal collection of 6TB worth of TV shows and movies, some iTunes and some non-DRM. I would love to put it up on iCloud and stream it to the TV app.
 
And delightfully last month Apple increased the price of my 2TB plan. :confused:
That's strange because in the eurozone the price is the same for 2TB.
50GB
: 0.99 €
200GB: 2.99 €
2TB: 9.99 €
6TB: 29.99 €
12TB: 59.99 €

 
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So people need that much? Why?
A lot of different reasons. That storage amount can be enough for one person yes, but if you’ve got five members in your family, and they’ve all been taking photos and videos cumulatively since iCloud became a thing, higher res pictures and RAW formats as well- that’s going to quickly stack up and that’s before anybody using iCloud Drive stuff. Honestly I think iCloud Drive is garbage I’ve been waiting almost two months now to get 2TB of data due to an error on Apple’s part, just so I can make space for family photos/backups all that trash instead of having to jump to 6GB already.
 
That's strange because in the eurozone the price is the same for 2TB.
50GB
: 0.99 €
200GB: 2.99 €
2TB: 9.99 €
6TB: 29.99 €
12TB: 59.99 €

If only the UK adopted the euro back in the 90s ;)
 
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Your folks should learn to delete photos and videos. I purged mine recently and reduced count 40%. Digital photography just collects excessive crap.

I keep everything.

Have copies, of copies, of . . . multiple copies of everything.

[o.k.: I admit to off-loading some old GF pics, so they wouldn't be able to come-up in convo with a new GF . . . but, I have those on local, NAS and B2!]

When someone (usually a Project Manager, but sometimes a friend/co-worker) asks if I have a photo of "______", I can pull-up that pic/vid on my phone in ms (anywhere; at any time) ;)

Same goes for messages, delete old stuff as performance goes down with such a large messages data set.

I have about 170GB of Message data in iCloud (synch'ed to four devices), and iMessage is as snappy as it has always been 🤷‍♂️

I have plans to get things lean&mean, but--with all the available storage opportunities--the need is just not very pressing.
 
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Yahoo Mail offers FREE 1tb base storage. Apple can most certainly offer more than 5GB of base iCloud storage. Times have changed and file & photo sizes have gotten much bigger since the iPhone 4s & iCloud were introduced.

I may just have to write a letter to Mr. C, and you may want to do the same. The more requests to increase base storage, the more likely he'll get the picture. But, I digress, as he is drowning in money...from those millions of paid iCloud accounts.
 
While I bet that lower prices are coming, iCloud+ costs shouldn't be your biggest issue but its openness to certain practices disclosed in Snowden's leaks. I use it with fully acknowledging that whatever goes up into the cloud can be accessed by those with proper security clearance badges.
It’s about the threat model tho. You really shouldn’t have to “trust” iCloud to be protected against these practices, but if there is a significant risk you can always use something with open-source, client-side encryption so the data is encrypted prior and not readable by Apple in the first place. That being said, it’s still somewhat of a hassle to do this for a large amount of files, wouldn’t be feasible for an entire photo collection and drive files imo.
 
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What is the best way to get all your iCloud content, including all your photos onto a physical drive? I would really love to do this, but do not know where to start once I have the drives.

~/Pictures/Photos Library.photoslibrary
~/Library/Messages
~/Library/Messages/Attachments

IIRC, there are Co's out there who make soft to better-facilitate the transferance of such things, but I don't necessarily trust them, nor do I find that they fully meet my needs.

I just copy the raw data for archival purposes.
 
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Messages with a lot of little video clips will hog up enormous space. The magic with Messages management is NOT leaving them open forever. Treat them like a phone call:
  • When the chat is finished, delete them.
  • When you want a new chat, start a new one.
Messages demand on iCloud will plunge if people stop leaving them open forever... accumulating more and more space, mostly of old videos already watched back when first sent. Close 'em and start new conversations vs. having a forever line of conversation like leaving a phone call off hook forever.

If only it worked like that--but it doesn't. Go ahead and delete whatever conversation you like. Then, go to Settings, iPhone Storage, Messages, and then choose either photos or Videos and you'll see all those photos and videos from conversations that you "deleted."
 
I just compared pricing between Apple, Google, and Microsoft. At the free tier, Apple is the same as Microsoft. At 200 GB tier, Google and Apple are the same while Microsoft costs more as there isn't a 200 GB tier. At 2TB Google is cheapest at $9.99, then Apple at $10.99, and Microsoft offers 1TB for $69.99 a year. Once you go beyond this, only Apple and MS offer the 6 TB tier, which is shared in a M365 family plan.

As far as I can tell, there is no ripoff at any tier, just a lot of pricing that pushes you up to $10-11 mark with all three companies. If you're looking for cheap cloud storage with no hooks into an application ecosystem, you can probably do better...but this is competitive.
2TB is still $9.99.

My Apple 2TB is USD9.99/mo 🤷‍♂️
You are right! This tier is unchanged in price at $9.99 for 2 TB.

 
You need to purchase Apple One first, ranging from 50GB at $17/month, 200GB at $23/month, 2TB at $33/month, then purchase additional iCloud+ storage at 50GB at $1/month, 200GB at $3/month, 2TB at $10/month, 6TB at $30/month, or 16TB at $60/month.

So to get 4TB, you will have to pay $43, Apple One Premier with 2TB and additional iCloud+ 2TB.
Good to know it’s possible. I know we had iCloud storage before Apple One was available. Not sure why it only shows 2TB for everyone while we’re certainly paying for both as you described
 
It's 5GB, 50GB is for iCloud+
One thing they don't advertise too loudly is if you order a new phone from Apple they temporarily give you extra storage to save a backup of your current phone which you can restore on your new phone. I thought the bonus storage during migration was a nice gesture.
 
To offset the cost to jump to 6tb I downgraded Apple One Premier to just family Apple Music. I was then able to cancel my wife's separate 9.99 iCloud 2tb plan that we had to carry. Now we are sitting at 3.4tb of 6tb and I'm only spending another $4 per month and can now add back in about 400gb of videos I had to export to my NAS.

To those of you saying backup to a NAS instead to save money you just don't get it. I say that as someone who has a Synology NAS with 40tb of storage. I'm all for having a local backup but a NAS is a poor replacement for the beautiful simplicity of iCloud. It automatically syncs across all devices. If my wife wants to see a concert video of our daughter from 4 years ago or our first family trip to Disney World 8 years ago it's right there on her iPhone/iPad/MacBook. We have a shared MacBook folder for various shared documents that are easily viewable on all devices. If I want to search text messages I sent 5 years ago like I just did last night to find info I needed I can. It's all there. Browsing a network share to dig up pictures and videos is a bad time.
 
I would never get 12 TB of iCloud. I store barely anything up there—it's email and messages mostly, and I still have 38.2 GB available. To be honest, I'd much rather have a 12 TB local drive or server (which I do) than 12 TB of iCloud.

In my experience, the internet isn't fast or reliable enough (at least where I live) to be uploading large video projects to iCloud constantly. In fact, at my house, it takes an hour and a half at least to upload just 6 GB. Internet where I live is so hilariously asymmetrical that it just doesn't make any sense - you can have a gigabit downlink and only 40 Mb/s uplink... Fiber is only available in limited quantities. The internet is NEVER going to be as fast as an SSD, so it doesn't make sense in my mind. If I edited off the cloud, it'd take me like a week just to get all the assets across to the client - well okay, that's an exaggeration, but you know what I mean? Plus, iCloud is just hella slow anyway compared to other services...
 
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