I missed this in the article or comments -- didn't realize that until I just saw the MR post pointing it out. That really sucks. But the reality of it is, the target market for these machines though, probably is just fine with 8GB of RAM. This model isn't for me, or for many people here.
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I missed this in the article or comments -- didn't realize that until I just saw the MR post pointing it out. That really sucks. But the reality of it is, the target market for these machines though, probably is just fine with 8GB of RAM. This model isn't for me, or for many people here.
I think everyday, extremely mainstream usage will include watching a 4year old flash video, not to mention loading up a few programs from an extremely slow mechanical hd. This thing will have more beachballs than a day at the outdoor pool.
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So, if I read that right this cpu will go up to 2.7 ghz and does hyper threading? And had HD5000? That doesn't seem all that bad.
Little bit of industry insight here:5 hours downtime just to add a new product
It might seem a bit "odd" that one or two minor items added to a store would require such massive downtime. This is the not the way that these products are deployed however.
The reason why you have a 5 hour downtime is because that's how much time it takes for the deployment of the new DB (containing the new items) and new bits to be delivered into the Production environment.
There is lots of steps to ensure that:
1. Dont get fired.
2. Things like stop services, start services are done manually. Most of the steps are basically executed manually even if it is scripted or automated. They just dont fly with that kind of risk in production.
3. Able to stop and rollback incase issue found.
So realistically this wasn't an Apple store update - this was a release to the Apple store that required deving, testing, and then manual and very cautious push to production. In short, they are not using a eCommerce front end to make the change in production (even if they do that during dev).
Because I hate to say it but NOBODY wants to be in the hot seat losing their job because they accidentally published the new item incorrectly, costing the company face and probably money honoring some orders.
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PS> To that effect, the price of the product was in the testing environments before it went live - meaning people internally are NOT leaking this even though they see it.
Oh look, the fanboys are cute when they pretend to know something. I hate to tell you this, but Apple buys these 27" from LG and Samsung, the same guys who sell to Dell, HP, and all the other monitor manufacturers.
In fact, there's Korean monitors on ebay for around $300 that are also made by the same companies. The reason they are so cheap is because they are A- panels, not guaranteed to be perfect and without dead pixels (Although I have two, and they are perfect).
It seems like you answered your own question. Apple buys these monitors from LG (primarily) and korean companies online sell it for cheap because they're A- panels and they're also from KOREA so shady warranty. but to each their own. not everybody is okay with A- panels. by the way A- panels are coined by those same sellers. Dead pixels are also not the only thing panel manufacturers check for when they grade their panels.
Also, just because the PANEL is the same, doesn't mean the final PRODUCT is the same. Calibration can make a difference. lcd treatment (anti-glare coating for example) can make a difference. fusing the LCD to the glass to reduce glare and to remove the depth effect of some LCDs can also make a difference. Plus you don't know how LG bins their panels for Apple/Dell.
Why don't you keep the personal attacks out of this?
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Alright, you do make a good point. Apple's monitors are usually metal/glass while Dell makes mostly plastic monitors. Beyond that's it's up to personal preference, as Apple makes glossy versions of the same monitors that Dell makes Matte.
You may be right; time wise that also coincides nicely with those new Nvidia GeForce GTX 870 and GTX 880 graphics cards expected to be launched in Q4. (Incidentally, the latter with 8GB of video memory would appear well suited for that rumored r-iMac, but let's not hope for too much, lest we be disappointed, come fall).
Failing that, I think the addition of TB2, as well as the inclusion of those upgraded Haswell chips, coupled with a modest price cut could make for a worthwhile pre-holidays silent upgrade.
It's down for 5 hours all the international stores get updated ready for early Cupertino time for the green button to be pressed & press releases issued.
selfie cam is still there
best feature for this: don´t touch my monitor.
Everything else pointless.
best feature for this: don´t touch my monitor.
Everything else pointless.
Total nonsense , you can still use the mouse with a touch screen. And you can always use a second screen as a drawing tablet on desk with a digitizer. Touch screen is very important today . It is not about moving the pointer alone, and not about the desktop screen , it will be used in a different way. Horizontal close to hands screen for art.
Yes some wacom digitizers offer this, but at huge price and not integrated into the OS . We need it fully functional into the os , just like ios.
And to drag an icon all the way , you just click it with 2 fingers and click on destination and it moves. You can invent gestures for that no need to keep your brain stuck into old ways.
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Here is a dose of reality.
I have 3 kids. Ages 7,9,11. They use their computers for youtube, school and minecraft. I bought them all imacs. One has a 27" quad 2.93ghz loaded, one has a 21.5" loaded and one has a 24" loaded. They are not the latest thin ones which is good because I was able to put SSDs in them easily.
They are horrible and the kids hate them.
In minecraft alone they cause overheating. The backs of their imacs were so freaking hot I almost burnt myself. This overheating caused major power supply failure in 2 imacs and the screens have terribly yellowed in one of them. The imacs had accumulated so much dust they fans nearly stopped and I keep a clean house. If it weren't for the ability to remove the display with suction cups I would not have been able to clean out that dust. The SSD reason and the dust reason is what has kept me from buying the new ones for them.
The solution to their dilemma? I bought the alll Lenovo Thinkpads. Got them the W530 version. Those machines have light up keyboards, Quad core i7 processors and 2gb ram workstation video cards which are great for gaming. Not the best but better than what they had. The computers are easily serviceable, I put 240gb MSATA drives in them for boot and they SCREAM. The cost for each of them? $1009 from Amazon.
Imacs suck for almost every scenario where you need to use the computer for anything other than typing up emails. Sorry.
Now mac minis are great for that purpose and they are SSD and ram upgradeable on the cheap so I don't get not only this new imac but imacs in general anymore.
I have 3 kids. Ages 7,9,11. They use their computers for youtube, school and minecraft. I bought them all imacs. One has a 27" quad 2.93ghz loaded, one has a 21.5" loaded and one has a 24" loaded. They are not the latest thin ones which is good because I was able to put SSDs in them easily.
They are horrible and the kids hate them.
In minecraft alone they cause overheating. The backs of their imacs were so freaking hot I almost burnt myself. This overheating caused major power supply failure in 2 imacs and the screens have terribly yellowed in one of them. The imacs had accumulated so much dust they fans nearly stopped and I keep a clean house. If it weren't for the ability to remove the display with suction cups I would not have been able to clean out that dust. The SSD reason and the dust reason is what has kept me from buying the new ones for them.
The solution to their dilemma? I bought the alll Lenovo Thinkpads. Got them the W530 version. Those machines have light up keyboards, Quad core i7 processors and 2gb ram workstation video cards which are great for gaming. Not the best but better than what they had. The computers are easily serviceable, I put 240gb MSATA drives in them for boot and they SCREAM. The cost for each of them? $1009 from Amazon.
Imacs suck for almost every scenario where you need to use the computer for anything other than typing up emails. Sorry.
Now mac minis are great for that purpose and they are SSD and ram upgradeable on the cheap so I don't get not only this new imac but imacs in general anymore.
Thanks for your "universal" reality, but my iMacs have never had any of the problems you're referring to. We do have Thinkpads at work which have an unbelievably high hard disk failure rate (not to mention still occasionally getting overrun with malware, but that's not the hardware's fault).
It's good you were able to find cheaper machines to type papers and play minecraft with- Windows is fine for that.
There is no advantage having a touch screen on a desktop, other than the art example you mentioned (and maybe a few other niche uses where direct manipulation is the only way to go). However, this is not mainstream enough to ship every single iMac with a touchscreen. Name me some examples where the best way of interacting with a desktop app is to touch the content rather than click it with a mouse.
Also, regardless of how you move an icon or other dragable item, if you have to move from it's starting position to where you want it, it's easier with a mouse.
Should every Mac come with a wacom tablet and pen, too?
This is a not so cheap imac especially at $1350 down under. I'm glad though that 8g comes as standard and I wish this was the case across the board. It's also no mini beater/ replacement or whatever however. Bit underwhelming really and makes me wonder why they couldn't have put the 1.4 Haswell set into an unchanged mini as well!
