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Apple Launches New Final Cut Pro X, Motion, and Compressor Updates

rei101 said:
Every company I know is using Premiere. There is just one guy I know using FCPX.
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Are you stuck on stupid? That was so 2011... Wake up! :roll eyes: There are many people making money using FCPX. Don't surround yourself with all the people who where to scared to learn something new and better. Its funny to see all the "everyone I know" comments. Yet they are probably the ones accusing everyone else of being sheeple. So you don't like it or are afraid of it. Don't put others down for choosing to us the best iteration of FCP to date. I've used it from day one, I am a certified pro and I use it daily in my studio so don't say I don't know. For those on the fence, I say dive in you won't look back!
 
I still want a scrolling timeline and the ability to put my palettes where ever I want and save that as a preset.

It's insane that this "pro" app can't do those two things.
 
rei101 said:
Nah, they haven't talk about any extensive "lens flare" plugin, that would be the signal.
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His LinkedIn page says "Motion Titles and Special Projects." I think you've nailed the "special project."

I bet there will be a lasso tool to quickly select small areas of the scene that will not be lens flares.

(To make confession, though: I like the lens flares in Star Trek!)
 
jmh600cbr said:
good, now we need Photos Pro
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Photos will go the same route as FCP X did. It's out now, with most important feature most people need. Over time, more will be added to make it more powerful, just like with FCP X. This will probably take years, but he, beats ****** buggy software.

Speaking of bugs: hopefully the rumors about OS 10.11 and iOS 9 having less new feature and being more stable are true...
 
winston1236 said:
You don't want to export in that format.

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We have two left on 7 at my company but we're moving to Premiere as well as soon as they can be convinced to learn something new.
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So, your company is paying $50-70 a month per each license? Seems like a lot for something you can never truly own. At those prices Adobe is basically making individuals and companies essentially pay for a new suite every 10-11 months, plus if you're a business your locked in for 2 year contract.

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vmachiel said:
Photos will go the same route as FCP X did. It's out now, with most important feature most people need. Over time, more will be added to make it more powerful, just like with FCP X. This will probably take years, but he, beats ****** buggy software.

Speaking of bugs: hopefully the rumors about OS 10.11 and iOS 9 having less new feature and being more stable are true...
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I agree. We probably will see new features about every 6 months or so for new Photos to bring back Aperture features. Too bad Apple doesn't just buy out Pixelmator. That would be a very nice acquisition.

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nagromme said:
His LinkedIn page says "Motion Titles and Special Projects." I think you've nailed the "special project."

I bet there will be a lasso tool to quickly select small areas of the scene that will not be lens flares.

(To make confession, though: I like the lens flares in Star Trek!)
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When in doubt add lens flare!:D
 
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While I don't have a need for FCP, the comments seem to be very positive. Hopefully this well cool down some of the people who say Apple no longer caters to "Pros".
 
winston1236 said:
You don't want to export in that format.

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We have two left on 7 at my company but we're moving to Premiere as well as soon as they can be convinced to learn something new.
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The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
 
Did a quick render test for compressor 4.2. A one minute video file 720p H.264 single pass 1:49, New Compressor exactly same file and settings using GPU 48 seconds.
 
rei101 said:
The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
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But before you could never get an Apple WATCH Edition for $17,000!

They should have kept 2 Apples - Apple, Inc. and Apple Computer, Inc.
 
Keebler said:
Does anyone have a list of what the supported hardware is?

I'm assuming my nMP 12 core is supported
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I think QuickSync i5 & i7?

In addition, H.264 multi-pass encoding — a popular format for viewing video on the Web — is 2.7 times faster in the new version using hardware acceleration built into Intel Core i5 or i7 systems such as the MacBook Pro and the iMac.
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http://thenextweb.com/creativity/20...creative-output-and-itunes-store-integration/
 
rei101 said:
Every company I know is using Premiere. There is just one guy I know using FCPX.
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Premiere?
With the cloud subscription and the very weak 4k support and function?
Ahhh. No thanks. I gave up on my typewriter as well...

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rei101 said:
The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
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You seem to be living in the past...
You are mentioning issues from the beta launch??
 
rei101 said:
The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
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I just want a 64-bit FCP 7 with a more modern interface, better multicam support, FCPX's colour correction tools for projects which won't be graded and... That's about it.

Is that so much to ask?! :p

Every production house seems to be moving back to Avid/Premiere. It's so sad - how did Apple screw this up so badly?
 
Sasparilla said:
It's always good to add some context, the ~1Ghz dual core MacBook that defaults to 4GB RAM, maxes out at 8GB and whose CPU performance numbers are roughly equivalent to the iPad Air 2 released last year.
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The new MacBook defaults to 8 GB of RAM.

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TMRJIJ said:
I heard Photos for Mac will have Extensibility in the future so third party developer can make the missing Aperture features.
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As long as Photos doesn't have support for versions, third-party editing plug-ins are somewhat pointless.

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vmachiel said:
Photos will go the same route as FCP X did. It's out now, with most important feature most people need. Over time, more will be added to make it more powerful, just like with FCP X. This will probably take years, but he, beats ****** buggy software.

Speaking of bugs: hopefully the rumors about OS 10.11 and iOS 9 having less new feature and being more stable are true...
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Photos will go the same route as iMovie '08.
 
rei101 said:
The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
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I agree. Apple has a huge problem with the way they're executing these things if they have any desire to maintain a presence in professional industries. The situation with Aperture/Photos is just the same if not worse so they clearly haven't learnt anything by the FCPX debacle. I've heard that you can't even re download Aperture any more if you own it, making reinstallation difficult.

What Apple doesn't seem to realise is that once lost, trust can be very hard if not impossible to earn back.

My reading of Apple's behaviour is that they're intentionally releasing bare-bones and crippled software with the expectation that community demands and backlash will drive the direction of development, but this is a terrible approach for pros. It shows a lack of confidence in their own abilities and contempt for users who've bought your software and invested heavily in it as a result. To withdraw previous apps without having feature equivalent replacements as happened with both FCP and now Aperture is just stupid.

Photos isn't even iPhoto equivalent let alone Aperture.

And what happens when we don't need Apple exclusive software? Suddenly the presence of Mac hardware in these industries isn't required either.

Apple had three major creative industries under their belt, now it's letting them go one by one. I'm not a video editor so I can't comment on FCP X and how it compares to the competition but I can certainly comment on what I observed about their approach to updating the software, now replicated in Aperture/Photos.

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TMRJIJ said:
I heard Photos for Mac will have Extensibility in the future so third party developer can make the missing Aperture features.
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Great, so don't kill Aperture until that exists and developers have had the SDK for long enough to release their plugins...

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cambookpro said:
I think because they don't have technical experts and creative pros driving their direction anymore. They've got a good industrial design guy (Ive) driving their hardware so that's performed reasonably but other than that all I see are marketing people. Cook isn't a creative guy so he doesn't understand. I think he only understands profit.
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Yay! This update looks really awesome. Backing up my machine now so I can install the updates.

Hey look! Apple finally gave some attention to the pro market.
 
rei101 said:
The timeline in FCPX is just horrible. They want you to do things their way. I was transitioning from FCP7 to Premiere in a few hours. FCPX is good to do like something very quick but the file management is absurd. The TV station I was working on switched to Premiere, the other company I always work with are switched to Premiere too, both dumped FCPX right away. And I have been asked to go to Premiere specially because the integration with the creative cloud and the rest of the Adobe suit. Apple did a horrible job in dumping FCP7 in the way they did. They will never going to regain a shadow of the market they had before.
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While Primere is really nice, I don't like renting software...yuck. While I've tried using Premiere, FCP X was cheaper, better & faster for me. Learning FCP X to an advanced level took me 2-3 months, where learning Premiere Pro at same level 6 months to a year or more.
 
itr81 said:
So, your company is paying $50-70 a month per each license? Seems like a lot for something you can never truly own. At those prices Adobe is basically making individuals and companies essentially pay for a new suite every 10-11 months, plus if you're a business your locked in for 2 year contract.
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$50 a month is nothing for a machine that is making money month after month. Not to mention you get the entire Adobe suite.

I'm still not sure how I like the new subscription model all of these companies seem to be going to, but price certainly isn't one of the hangups I have with it.

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linuxcooldude said:
Learning FCP X to an advanced level took me 2-3 months, where learning Premiere Pro at same level 6 months to a year or more.
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Really? What did you find so difficult with Premiere? Neither program is very challenging. Now if you were talking about Avid, then that would make more sense.
 
ValSalva said:
This must be timed to coincide with the release of the new MacBook ;)
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It's timed to coincide with the National Association of Broadcasters trade show going on in Vegas right now. Adobe is going to be announcing a lot of cool stuff as well.

Definitely interested in seeing how the titles look—depending on how fast and customizable it is I might be better served creating some of the 3D titles I make in AE in FCPX or Motion instead.
 
Can you toggle off the magnetic timeline yet?

Can I have my tracks back?

No? Pass...
 
:mad: Why does the update need Yosemite? I'm not moving from Mavericks until they've fixed discoveryd, and I'm confident I'm not going to have wifi issues.
 
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