They are just another tool. Ultimately as with any tool it mainly comes down to how it's used.Debt is dumb and cash is king. People don't get rich off their credit cards...
Am I wrong, or is Apple Card not coming to Europe?
Bolding can’t save your post; bad info is bad info.I'm assuming this has to mean another hard pull their credit which won't be great press when people start getting denied twice.
Exactly. I don't know why people should ever miss a payment. Just set automatic payments for the minimum due and then pay more if you can in a second payment. Then you never have a missed payment on anything. Crazy how stupid many people are.
I meant my credit card history is fine. I pay my bills on time, use it moderately (try to keep it within 30% of credit limit unless I need to make a large purchase), etc..Try getting a secured card through a credit union. Having only student loans makes you high risk especially without some income and a track record of paying it back.
Thats quite a nice thing to put out there. I have only been rejected once and it was from a company called V12, who subsequently let my fiancé take out finance and he has no money. Would have loved to have found out their reasoning, I am all within 20% of my limits.
I cant really see it going there then unless they stripe it of rewards and make it as a way only to finance Apple products but whats innovative about that? The US is pretty fortunate in how we can travel and churn credit. A friend of mine in Israel was amazed I could fly to London once a year in buisness class just from eating out, gas and groceries.
You mean the worthless fiat paper that says some central bank's name not good for anything substantive while governments around the world print more and more of it to no end? I'll take debt any day and put real wealth into investments...Debt is dumb and cash is king. People don't get rich off their credit cards...
You mean the worthless fiat paper that says some central bank's name not good for anything substantive while governments around the world print more and more of it to no end? I'll take debt any day and put real wealth into investments...
Not exactly sure that things would somehow suddenly be cheaper if reward programs wouldn't exist.I mean, you are paying for your flight to London once a year. Just because you don't see the interchange rates it doesn't mean you don't pay them. Merchants adjust their prices accordingly.
Interchange rates being capped in Europe is a great thing for customers and merchants. People don't receive many rewards when using their cards but they also don't pay for these rewards while US customers do.
Not exactly sure that things would somehow suddenly be cheaper if reward programs wouldn't exist.
Debt is dumb and cash is king. People don't get rich off their credit cards...
Bolding can’t save your post; bad info is bad info.
There’s no hard pull required to apply at all—whether you’re offered the credit card or you’re denied.
Maybe not rich but I pay for all my living expenses with cash back credit cards, pay it off every month and get 1-5% cash back depending on purchase. I just used $500 in free money to buy myself a birthday present. How much money do you get bacK by paying cash? Oh that's right. None.
Maybe you're in a situation where cash back means nothing to you and that's great, but being responsible with credit certainly has benefits for the average person. Many unfortunately will not see these perks either through their own misuse of credit or because of their ignorance and fear of credit but it cannot be denied that they exist.
This is why I asked if you follow their instructions to the T, are you approved again or just possibly.I'm assuming this has to mean another hard pull their credit which won't be great press when people start getting denied twice.
Yes for all the people who have discipline to make out on cash back/rewards, there's like nine others who carry a balance and more than make up for it. Plus there are always transaction fees from merchants no matter what the consumers do with their balances.But why invent such a silly system with cash back? What’s the point? Why not just sell the stuff cheaper? Cash back is like feeding the dog with it’s own tail.
I can see why - as the system now is there - that it would be stupid not taking advantage of it, but I don’t get why the it was allowed in the first place. Don’t be naive. The system only exists because somebody is profiting more and it’s not the average consumer. There’s no such thing as a free lunch and if you’re not paying for it your neighbor is. And you’re paying for somebody else’s “free lunch”.
Actually for years, US banks have defaulted to paying items that take you negative with a fee, which is actually worse for the customer sometimes. The old way, if you had one big transaction and little ones, if the big one was overdrawn, you would only get that returned with a fee, but all the little ones could still be covered without any more overdraws. The new way, the big one is paid and you get a fee, but now there could be no money left for the little ones, so every single one gets paid with a fee.And why are they agreeing to 0%? Because they're counting on you to not repay that amount before the interest starts. Exactly like a credit card.
In fact, why are they offering to cover overdrafts at 40%? In the US, they deny the transaction/bounce the check.
It's all the same: UK checking accounts are supported by the very expensive overdraft interest.
Debt is dumb and cash is king. People don't get rich off their credit cards...
Theoretically it all sounds good and plausible, however practically the likelihood of it all is something that's quite different.Suddenly, surely not.
But if merchants end up with bigger margins AND have fierce competition prices will go down to the point where margin are back to the old normal.
-> people that think they can outsmart cooperate banking just aren't that smart to start with
Note: When the masses do something stupid, it might sometimes even more stupid to go against the flow, doesn't mean the masses stopped being stupid....
A round trip business flight to London is $2-3k adding in hotel points and cash back im probably bringing in $3-$4k a year in rewards a year I doubt id be ahead if the rates dropped.I mean, you are paying for your flight to London once a year. Just because you don't see the interchange rates it doesn't mean you don't pay them. Merchants adjust their prices accordingly.
Interchange rates being capped in Europe is a great thing for customers and merchants. People don't receive many rewards when using their cards but they also don't pay for these rewards while US customers do.
Cry me a river. Look to Europe, they got rid of all of the cash back rewards, miles, points etc, and guess what? Prices stayed the same! Everyone just loses instead.No, you're the type of person everyone should hate. We should all take a look at where that cashback is coming from. It's bogus. We are taking money from merchants and smaller businesses, who must in turn, raise prices. The banks love that behavior.
Because nearly no business lowers prices when costs drop. Best case they just wait longer to raise them again. I remember when gas went over $4/gallon, and tons of places said the price increases were temporary. BS no prices ever dropped when gas went back down.Cry me a river. Look to Europe, they got rid of all of the cash back rewards, miles, points etc, and guess what? Prices stayed the same! Everyone just loses instead.
But why invent such a silly system with cash back? What’s the point? Why not just sell the stuff cheaper? Cash back is like feeding the dog with it’s own tail.