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Apple Legal Filing Cites Fear of 'Inferior' Amazon Appstore Tarnishing its Reputation

Hey Apple, I have an Apple iPhone 3g. It's inferior than your other newer phones already. You made me install iOS 4 on it and now it runs like crap. After that, you locked it from being able to get newer features. That's what I would call INFERIOR! I demand you give me money! :mad:

Apple you know how to moan allot. Too bad your customers don't beat the crap out of you for the perceived obsolescence and induced obsolescence you are creating on your "superior devices and apps". And your AppStore is far from perfect... :p On iPad for example is blinking when I want to see More apps. Why?! This is just an example, not to say more about the bugs on writing reviews, etc etc etc...
 
Radoo said:
Hey Apple, I have an Apple iPhone 3g. It's inferior than your other newer phones already. You made me install iOS 4 on it and now it runs like crap. After that, you locked it from being able to get newer features. That's what I would call INFERIOR! I demand you give me money! :mad:

Apple you know how to moan allot. Too bad your customers don't beat the crap out of you for the perceived obsolescence and induced obsolescence you are creating on your "superior devices and apps". And your AppStore is far from perfect... :p On iPad for example is blinking when I want to see More apps. Why?! This is just an example, not to say more about the bugs on writing reviews, etc etc etc...
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It's an old phone. Released July 2008. Discontinued June 2010.

I'm surprised Apple allows you to run the latest OS at all.

It's users like you - who demand full support and full performance from new software *on old hardware* - that are holding us back. Why haven't you upgraded yet? The pace of development in the smartphone market is blistering. No one is going to focus on optimizing new software for old hardware. And frankly, even two years in this industry is a lifetime.

I have no idea what "blinking" you're talking about in regard to the App Store.

Currently, all other Application Stores *are* inferior to the App Store. That's just a fact of life at the moment. It's not perfect, but it's the best we have, and has remained so since its inception. That's pretty impressive.
 
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benthewraith said:
Windows is the name of an operating system. Both windows and app store are generic. Windows can refer to the Operating System, which is protected by trademark, or the application window running on your computer, which is generic and not protected by Microsoft's trademark. Outside of technology, windows are generic completely. App is an abbreviation for application, whose word predates Apple. Hell, there's even this folder called Applications on Windows 95-7.

And I disagree, LTD, when people think App Store, they think about the store they use for their respective phone platform AS an app store.
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By your own logic, you cannot defend Microsoft and criticise Apple. Apple has used the term "App Store" as a proper noun, referring specifically to their digital distribution medium, just as Microsoft used the term "Windows" as a proper noun to refer to their OS line. These two situations are analogous and essentially identical. Furthermore, there is no folder 'named' applications in Windows 7, and even if there was one it wouldn't be a unique digital offering attempting to use the association of quality and success that Apple's App Store has delivered.
 
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bikemonkey said:
So many people on here jumping to bite at Apple. However, unless I'm mistaken, not one of you has taken the time to prove/explain why the Amazon App Store offers an equal or higher quality service.
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Because it's not relevant.
 
Hurda said:
Because it's not relevant.
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In terms of IP, it is. That's the main reason to protect trademarks and obtain rights. You want the name to be associated with *your* product - not just physically (brand recognition) but in terms of what it represents (brand integrity.) Having the band name watered down with a service that is not characteristic of Apple's standards is as legitimate a complaint as any.
 
fpsBeaTt said:
By your own logic, you cannot defend Microsoft and criticise Apple. Apple has used the term "App Store" as a noun, referring specifically to their digital distribution medium, just as Microsoft used the term "Windows" as a noun to refer to their OS line. These two situations are analogous and essentially identical. Furthermore, there is no folder 'named' applications in Windows 7, and even if there was one it wouldn't be a unique digital offering attempting to use the association of quality and success that Apple's App Store has delivered.
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What the heck are you talking about? Of course apple used "app store" as a noun because it IS a noun. "windows" is also a noun. What else could those words be?

The criteria for trademarks is that it cannot be descriptive. "Windows" for Microsoft Windows is acceptable because it's not describing an actual window, it's describing an operating system. "App store" isn't acceptable because it describes exactly what it is: an app store. That's like trying to trademark "grocery store" or "gas station"
 
fpsBeaTt said:
Apple has used the term "App Store" as a noun, referring specifically to their digital distribution medium, just as Microsoft used the term "Windows" as a noun to refer to their OS line. These two situations are analogous and essentially identical.
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If that were true, then let us recall what happened when Microsoft tried to sue over the use of "Lindows", saying it was too close to "Windows".

The courts not only rejected it, but more importantly for this forum thread, one judge commented that MS had previously used "windows" to generically describe other systems (sound familar?) and expressed doubts that the trademark was therefore even valid.

MS quickly settled out of court after that, paying Lindows $20 million to change their name.

Personally, I think Apple might've had a case until its bosses publicly called other download sites "app stores".

Furthermore, there is no folder 'named' applications in Windows 7, and even if there was one it wouldn't be a unique digital offering attempting to use the association of quality and success that Apple's App Store has delivered.
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Leaving aside the fact that Windows programs are called "applications" in the file system viewer...

The quality argument is as silly as if Morton's sued Sizzler over the use of "steak house" in their name, simply because they felt it cheapened their own offerings.
 
Don't worry. If Apple wins the App Store trademark challenge, there will be plenty of chances for Apple to be copied again and again.

Apple applied for the trademark. They have a right to sue and challenge. End of story.

Don't get sidetracked into arguing with people about who coined the term "app" first. These people just want to waste your time.

Creativity is gone. Apple should have come up with a new name for their cloud service instead of just slapping an "i" in front of it. And Apple really brought the app store to a higher level of recognition than it was previously. Some of the competition came up with unique names to distinguish themselves and others did not. Like I said creativity is dying out in these companies.
 
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I really think it would be too harsh for Apple to lose the trademark while Amazon changing its name of Appstore should be ok.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Don't worry. If Apple wins the App Store trademark challenge, there will be plenty of chances for Apple to be copied again and again.

Apple applied for the trademark. They have a right to sue and challenge. End of story.

Don't get sidetracked into arguing with people about who coined the term "app" first. These people just want to waste your time.

Creativity is gone. Apple should have come up with a new name for their cloud service instead of just slapping an "i" in front of it. And Apple really brought the app store to a higher level of recognition than it was previously. Some of the competition came up with unique names to distinguish themselves and others did not. Like I said creativity is dying out in these companies.
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Well the cloud didn't really exist until Apple slapped an 'i' in front of it. It's been a horrible, HORRIBLE mess until Apple's version which is perfection now.:D:apple:
 
Dbrown said:
What the heck are you talking about? Of course apple used "app store" as a noun because it IS a noun. "windows" is also a noun. What else could those words be?

The criteria for trademarks is that it cannot be descriptive. "Windows" for Microsoft Windows is acceptable because it's not describing an actual window, it's describing an operating system. "App store" isn't acceptable because it describes exactly what it is: an app store. That's like trying to trademark "grocery store" or "gas station"
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I edited my post due to the typo which you exploited; if you want to use that reasoning, Windows is named based on what you use within the OS (i.e. windows, displaying folders etc).
 
*LTD* said:
It's an old phone. Released July 2008. Discontinued June 2010.

I'm surprised Apple allows you to run the latest OS at all.
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Actually your surprise is my surprise. Why Apple let me upgrade to iOS 4 when it makes my phone to work un-smoothly.
 
benthewraith said:
And we've already established that in that use, windows is in fact generic.
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So therefore, someone else can call their OS 'Windows' if it does in fact use windows, which is a standardized filing system tool. Furthermore, one can use Amazon as a name for their store, since one could also interpret it to be generic if you take the word to be describing an ecosystem of apps. Whether you like it or not, Apple was the first to coin the abbreviation in terms of an electronic distribution medium, and it is not coincidental that Amazon has mimicked Apple in this way.
 
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