If it's true (and we'll never know) that the Apple display would've been an even higher price, then yes, this LG model is fine. I guess I'm dreaming of an aluminum housing at the same price point.
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Apple LG UltraFine 5K
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I currently have a couple of Dell P2715Q displays, and this LG is interesting to me (with a new MBP on order).
It looks like there are NO other options on this monitor for connecting it to anything else (even at a downscaled resolution)?
So if I want to plug in an older Mac, or a PC, you just can't do it? That's kind of a huge limitation. Unless there are adapter cables that would allow this?
I recognize you need Thunderbolt 3 bandwidth to drive 5K over a single cable, but I'm surprise the monitor doesn't at least have other inputs as an alternative.
It looks like there are NO other options on this monitor for connecting it to anything else (even at a downscaled resolution)?
So if I want to plug in an older Mac, or a PC, you just can't do it? That's kind of a huge limitation. Unless there are adapter cables that would allow this?
I recognize you need Thunderbolt 3 bandwidth to drive 5K over a single cable, but I'm surprise the monitor doesn't at least have other inputs as an alternative.
- We won't really know until someone tries it. It only has that Thunderbolt 3 input, but it's possible it will allow connection from a Thunderbolt 2 output with Apple's TB3<->TB2 adaptor, albeit at 4K resolution rather than 5K.
Would it theoretically be possible to connect speakers through 3.5mm jack to the USB-C port on the back of the 5K monitor? That way I could have a single-cable solution for my MacBook Pro (power, video, audio, USB-A hub).
This doesn't look quite as great from the top down and I'm not drilling holes
This doesn't look quite as great from the top down and I'm not drilling holes
- I gather you mean to one of the three USB-C ports in its hub? That should be perfectly possible with the right USB audio adaptor.
It will be a pretty neat single-cable solution.
I'm guessing they'll make a future model with Displayport 1.3/1.4 over USB-C to work with PCs.
Just so you are aware it is a limitation of the USB-C, alternate mode for DisplayPort. The cable is putting out a pure DisplayPort signal from the laptop and that requires all the pins except 4, leaving only enough pins for USB 2 (power, ground, Data +, Data -). The only way around that is to a) use thunderbolt and then the 12" MacBook wouldn't work or b) use a lower resolution (2.5k requires less pins).
- Yes, I am aware. USB speed is only limited when using 4K 60 Hz through USB-C, though. This monitor seems to permanently limit USB speeds regardless of resolution or refresh rate.
With the LG 27UD88-W, for instance, you can run 4K 30 Hz along with USB 3.0 speeds on its hub over that same USB-C cable since 30 Hz only requires two of the four Alt Mode lanes, which means the other two can be used to enable USB 3.0.
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Would this work?
Use the lg monitor with usb-c to usb hub, and connect sdcard reader and logitech mouse dongle to it
But if so, I wouldn't mind this setup, it means i have 3 usb-c ports left on the macbook pro, and the imac i still have can also use the libraries, network shares, etc.
My pluggin in-out of the lacie rugged hard drive over usb would not wear/tear my macbookpro, because ill hang it on the lg monitor, and that way if i connect the imac, it mounts on the imac as well.
The monitor powers the laptop, and the imac is in the wall socket of course. But that means i just have to use 1 port on the mbp.
Can the imac use the lg as a second monitor? it's a early 2009 imac, 24", .. it has an old DP port, i understand this might limit the resolution, but would it work as a second monitor on that imac? anybody know?
Would the mouse work like that? via the monitor, via the usb-c to usb hub? Or would that be too confusing for macOS to deal with?
Otherwise i simply have to use the usb-c to usb hub on the macbook pro on a second port, i guess. solve that problem - id still have 2 ports left.
Things like a printer, NAS storage for all the time machines and media shares, .. can all be on ethernet ports and usb ports of the router and limited to lan.
Use the lg monitor with usb-c to usb hub, and connect sdcard reader and logitech mouse dongle to it
But if so, I wouldn't mind this setup, it means i have 3 usb-c ports left on the macbook pro, and the imac i still have can also use the libraries, network shares, etc.
My pluggin in-out of the lacie rugged hard drive over usb would not wear/tear my macbookpro, because ill hang it on the lg monitor, and that way if i connect the imac, it mounts on the imac as well.
The monitor powers the laptop, and the imac is in the wall socket of course. But that means i just have to use 1 port on the mbp.
Can the imac use the lg as a second monitor? it's a early 2009 imac, 24", .. it has an old DP port, i understand this might limit the resolution, but would it work as a second monitor on that imac? anybody know?
Would the mouse work like that? via the monitor, via the usb-c to usb hub? Or would that be too confusing for macOS to deal with?
Otherwise i simply have to use the usb-c to usb hub on the macbook pro on a second port, i guess. solve that problem - id still have 2 ports left.
Things like a printer, NAS storage for all the time machines and media shares, .. can all be on ethernet ports and usb ports of the router and limited to lan.
Quite a lot of rImac owners with (I'm assuming) this exact same LG 5k display (or atleast an LG display at 5k) have had pretty bad image retention issues.
I would be quite interested in this panel if not for the dreadful problems I've had with my LG 5k in the iMac.
I would be quite interested in this panel if not for the dreadful problems I've had with my LG 5k in the iMac.
Does the LG display have a built-in ethernet port like the Apple Thunderbolt Display? If not, I'm guessing I can use a USB-C to ethernet adapter and plug into the hub on the back of the monitor?
- Everything you describe should work just fine, except for the 5K LG monitor on your old iMac. The monitor will, from what we know, require a Thunderbolt input, which your iMac can't deliver.
- It does not, and you can.
It sounded good to me but when I asked someone on an Apple chat today they replied:
"You should just need one cable, and the Mac Pro desktop can drive up to three 5K displays at once."
Their reply doesn't sound right to me.
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The current Mac Pro can drive three 5K monitors, but it requires using all six TB2/miniDP ports (dedicating two to each monitor).
The current Mac Pro can also drive a 4K monitor with a single TB2/miniDP port.
- Right now, only Thunderbolt 3 equipped machines can drive this UltraFine 5K monitor. For other machines to do it, there would need to be a 2xThunderbolt 2 to 1xThunderbolt 3 adaptor, which I'm not sure is even technically possible.
So the LG 5K's TB3 interface can not accept at TB2 or TB1 protocol provided an external adapter box/cable does the physical port change?
We all need to hear that story directly from LG. Very strange TB3 implementation if it can do TB2 or TB1.
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/tech/faq
We all need to hear that story directly from LG. Very strange TB3 implementation if it can do TB2 or TB1.
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/tech/faq
- Remains to be seen. If it can and if one Thunderbolt 2 cable is used, it will be at 4K 60 Hz, not 5K 60 Hz because of Thunderbolt 2 bandwidth limitations.
SO true.
Apple should have demanded more input on the look of the monitor as a condition to be marketing it as the "best thing to use w/ your MacBook".
That upper camera chin is simply unforgivable and is the exact type of thing Apple normally would be making fun of in the PC world.
Oh let's spare this "Steve Jobe would never .." nonsense, shall we? He would've never, except for all the times he did.
You must not be old enough to remember this gem for instance. LG 5K display is a masterpiece in comparison.
Oh let's spare this "Steve Jobe would never .." nonsense, shall we? He would've never, except for all the times he did.
You must not be old enough to remember this gem for instance. LG 5K display is a masterpiece in comparison.
Agree to disagree. That was a mobile collaboration/attempt. Steve had great taste with regard to the Mac and Desktop/Accessories (I thought).
Just a side note, but could you please be polite?
Sorry if I read it wrong, but the tone of your comment seemed a bit condescending.
FTR, I've been around Mac's since the late 80's - Not a young guy or new to anything Apple/Mac related at all.
Cheers
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Sorry my comment wasn't directed at you personally necessarily, but just against the general "Steve Jobs would've never allowed this" meme.. Which I find not only excruciatingly annoying, but also wrong in most instances
But we will agree to disagree on this - I frankly don't see the difference between iTunes ROKR, which Jobs promoted at the time as the only way to get iTunes experience on mobile phones.. And them promoting LG display as 5K solution for rMBP.
And this LG display has no Apple branding or proprietary Apple software/hardware.. It's simply a 3rd party display. If you don't like the way it looks (I find it to be just fine) - I am sure there will be other 5K TB3 displays out there, from the likes of Dell and others.
For me the difference is that the ROKR was before Apple had ever made a mobile phone/iTunes combo themselves. This LG monitor exists in a space that Apple has made amazingly beautiful products in for a very very long time.
I'd also argue, as it would relate to Steve and his opinion, he'd have a very high standard for anything involving the desktop/Mac, etc. Yes, this product is just a recommendation, but still, Apple is suggesting this as the "made for/great for use with your Apple product", etc.
It just bums me out they no longer want to have end to end beautiful Apple designed solutions on the desktop.
I would've gladly payed the apple tax if only they had put this awesome display in a chin-less version of the current retina 27 iMac.
How hard can it be Johnny? It's so unbelievable that this is supposed to be it. I will give up final hope when they update the Mac pro with TB3 and then there's still no apple display, but until then a small flame inside me remains. I just don't see why the heck they wouldn't do this. My only explanation is Tim "supply chain optimizer" cook wanted to save some money.
How hard can it be Johnny? It's so unbelievable that this is supposed to be it. I will give up final hope when they update the Mac pro with TB3 and then there's still no apple display, but until then a small flame inside me remains. I just don't see why the heck they wouldn't do this. My only explanation is Tim "supply chain optimizer" cook wanted to save some money.