Don't know... seems pretty "pro" to me.Hmm, interesting. Maybe they’ll finally put the “Pro” back into Final Cut Pro?
Don't know... seems pretty "pro" to me.Hmm, interesting. Maybe they’ll finally put the “Pro” back into Final Cut Pro?
That's not true. Apple software only works on Apple Hardware. Typically FCP users have to upgrade the hardware (SSD and RAM) when purchasing a new Mac, paying thousands of dollars extra for what is only a couple hundred dollars of hardware.
Apple IS charging for the software development in their exorbitant hardware (particularly upgrade) pricing. And they're charging an up-front fee for the software.
There is nothing stopping Apple from charging an upgrade fee when they have a significantly new version with polished and refined features. They did this with FCP 1-7 and Apple had over 50% of the editing market (including 100% of Oscar Nominated documentary films). They used to do it with OSX upgrades. People can choose to upgrade or not. Already, the latest versions of FCP are not compatible with Ventura and many features cannot be used on Intel Macs - forcing a hardware upgrade to be able to continue to use the software or use all of the features it currently offers.
You absolutely should be upset about the lack of upgrades for FCPX - particularly the integration of Motion. But the solution isn't for Apple to charge more, because that's not the cause of slow development. Apple just doesn't care about professional users. They abandoned them along with FCP7. They were chasing YouTube creators and photographers that were also dabbling in videos (like realestate and wedding photographers).
The problem is that over a decade later, most those creators are using higher quality cameras and need more sophisticated editing software than what FCPX provides - and the basic version of DaVinci is free (and is capable of professional output).
Apple released FCPX with the ability to open iMovie projects, but not FCP7 projects. It was almost featureless at the time of release, from a pro standpoint. Apple genuinely believed that the magnetic timeline was such a massive innovation that it would change the way editing was done. It didn't. Professionals were forced to switch to Premiere and some later chose DaVinci when it introduced and refined editing and now they're the professional standard.
I honestly wish Apple put more development into FCPX. I wouldn't pay a subscription for it, but if the software got a major overhaul and some real features that made it capable of professional output, I would definitely upgrade my hardware to get the benefits of the development - which is how Apple makes money.
Sorry? When did I say anything about Apple being lazy with updates? I didn't get into that discussion at all—I just pointed out that subscription-only is not the answer.
If you want me to go there, I will say this. Apple's influence on the market has been to lower app prices. I don't remember the exact dates (and I'm too lazy to look them up), but they started making Mac OS major version upgrades cheaper and cheaper, until they were eventually free. They could afford to do this because of their overpriced hardware. What a kick in the guts to Microsoft who enjoyed huge revenue from selling Windows! Then, with the introduction of their App Stores, Apple started slashing prices on software like Final Cut Pro and not charging for updates at all, and this pricing strategy was kind of forced onto developers (of iOS apps anyway). That led to a race to the bottom in terms of pricing.
So, in summary, that was a brief win for customers and a loss for developers. Now, developers are gaining the advantage back through subscription models.
My point is this… Neither of those two extremes is the best model. One hurts customers, the other hurts devs. As I said, the best model (IMO anyway) is the 'pay once, and get 12 months of free updates' model, whatever that's called.
Same here. No complaints. Wonderful software. Constantly updated btw.Looking forward to this… Final Cut 11?
I do little 3-4 minute music videos… not huge 2 hour movies with multiple cameras… FCP works great for me…
Seriously, why would someone actually downvote a simple, upbeat statement like that? Is there some horrid backstory involved? WTH? I'm going to hope it was an accidental click, because it will just depress me otherwise.I'll be at the FCP Creative Summit next week — if anyone reading this is going, say hello!![]()
Oh yes, I've been playing with it on the my new m4max 16 core, and I like to edit multi clips in faster than realtime playback, my m1max would do double speed, but one more bump up and the playback would be choppy. Well I had hoped m4max would make it smoother...nope absolutely the same result so no great. Other peeps said a 15 minute export on m1max was 55 seconds, on m4max 48 seconds. Soooooo if export speed hasn't been improved much and editing playback hasn't been improved much...then may return this sucker unless the new fcp x update makes it better. Also use capture one and import is much faster, but export was slower than molasses in january. So hopefully all just optimizations the software needs. But not making me too excited about dropping $5K...There's evidence on YouTube that FCP under-performs on M4. I'd expect that to change with an update.
Uh what? DaVinci will charge for major updates? Is there an article or announcement of this that I missed?Even DaVinci Resolve is not free anymore for major updates. Which means you still need to pay per major updates and it works like annually subscription unless you wanna stick with a specific version. Apple themselves is a great proof with iPad versions anyway as they choose a subscription model for iPad versions.
Apple doesn’t need the subscription money to develop fcp. They get money in return selling mac pros.FCPX and other Apple software lack constant updates and features because of one time only payment. Several years ago, professional users already complained about this and sent an open letter and yet, nothing have been solved but ignored. As a result, FCPX is losing a lot of users and market share to other software. If not, how come Apple went to the subscription model for iPad versions?
Even DaVinci Resolve is not free anymore for major updates. Which means you still need to pay per major updates and it works like annually subscription unless you wanna stick with a specific version. Apple themselves is a great proof with iPad versions anyway as they choose a subscription model for iPad versions.
You didn’t miss any announcement. That commenter is just wrong. The free version of DaVinci Resolve isn’t going anywhere. Certain new features are only in the paid version (such as all the AI features), but the free version will absolutely continue being updated just as often as the paid version.Uh what? DaVinci will charge for major updates? Is there an article or announcement of this that I missed?
Opinion: Apple Final Cut Pro Is Not ‘Pro’ Anymore - Y.M.Cinema Magazine
It seems that Apple has removed its Pro App flagship from the ‘Professional’ tag. Since the beginning of the year, Apple has not released any update of FCP (Final Cut Pro). On the other side of the NLE map, Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve are deep into the race, as FCP remains on the starting...ymcinema.com
FALSE. You guys are just being clueless about what you are talking about. Check the link and you will know that FCPX is in a serious trouble as Apple is not solving problems for a long time. Since they are keep ignoring users after the open letter, they are DEF lazy with competitions.
That's just plain incorrect. We have 8 Resolve Studio stations at work. The dongles were installed with version 16 a few years back. They are all running version 19 now, and Blackmagic hasn't charged a single dollar for any updates. All updates are free for Studio license holders. Not to mention they have a free edition as well and it's been free for ages.Even DaVinci Resolve is not free anymore for major updates. Which means you still need to pay per major updates and it works like annually subscription unless you wanna stick with a specific version. Apple themselves is a great proof with iPad versions anyway as they choose a subscription model for iPad versions.
I know a thing or two about After Effects (being my livelihood), and I can tell you there's no software like it.I agree with you except for this. Motion is amazing specifically because it is not After Effects. It's a guided missile cruiser to After Effect's aircraft carrier. Both can be powerful, but one is much more complex and needs a lot more resources to be effective.
I think 80% of what people think they need AE for, you can do in Motion in half the time. The other 20% that's too complex or beyond Motion's feature set is fine for AE to own, because I'd rather Motion stay streamlined and quick for the other 80%.
Even DaVinci Resolve is not free anymore for major updates. Which means you still need to pay per major updates and it works like annually subscription unless you wanna stick with a specific version. Apple themselves is a great proof with iPad versions anyway as they choose a subscription model for iPad versions.
this is actually very nice from Blackmagic (I believe they own DaVinci)I purchased DaVinci Resolve Studio version 14 and I can use version 19 now. Never have I paid anything else for the updates in between
Back in the day I think there was like a small startup that sold a solution to make fcp collaborative, but then it was bought by adobe? It’s too bad apple doesn’t work on that, because the editor is really really fast and a joy to use.After reading some of these posts, I have a controversial opinion, but since I have a few minutes, let me state it quickly.
I think Final Cut is in a good place - and sure, it could be better, but that's mostly amongst mid to high-level professionals, and THANKFULLY, there are really good alternatives for that group of people, and guess what, those people don't use FCPX. These days, Apple really isn't even trying to secure high-level professionals, which should be obvious at this point in time with how the market has changed and evolved with social media and the rise of algorithms.
FCPX is and has been super popular amongst YouTubers, hobbyists, videographers, social media 'influencers' and even professional solo filmmakers for well over a decade now. It launched to great dismay in 2011, but anyone who thinks FCP7 is still better than FCPX since at least the last 5-6+ years is stuck in a different decade and perhaps lacks the ability to adapt to modern times.
FCPX at its core is an amazing cutting program through and through, and while it surely lacks some advanced effects and transitions and obviously lacks a clean way to work with groups of people - if that's your problem, then why are you using Final Cut? It offers SPEED and STABILITY like no other and has consistently offered that combination since the start, even back when we were stuck on Intel and AMD, which is when it truly outpaced the competition by miles. Did we forget?
It has only been since Blackmagic entered the picture with Resolve and offered a competitive pricing model that people started to become disillusioned and wanting an arm and a leg. Forgetting that Apple offered the best bang for buck years and years before and are probably the only reason Blackmagic saw the potential to make it happen, arguably, if it wasn't for FCPX, then we wouldn't be sitting here talking about it all.
I bought FCPX back in late 2013, and at this point in time, its value for money has been absolutely incredible. It has always been there, and I still occasionally open it up when I want to cut something quickly and fast, and I really love it. Its interface is somehow still really good and shockingly was always ahead of its time in terms of ease of use.
People who hate and complain about it clearly lack intuitive knowledge; if you don't like it, then use one of the many other options like wtf? And if you complain because of your 'love' for it then that's kinda weird tbh.
My opinion is based on experience having worked professionally for 12, going on 13 years in the film industry. I have thoroughly used and mastered all the major NLEs, working between them on dozens and dozens of projects to date. My current main editor is, in fact, Resolve, but I also still use Premiere Pro and AE as they are still the best for high-end projects, even though their stability always leaves something to be desired.
this is actually very nice from Blackmagic (I believe they own DaVinci)
This comment shows perfectly how we got in this "subscription" mess in the first place: a lot of people's unwillingness to pay any significant amount of money for software.so you are ready to pay 300 dollars for iPad version? OK ok