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Apple Likely to Launch iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c in Fourth Wave of Countries on November 15

I think it's fair to say the 5C will be readily available in these 4th wave markets...

Too bad 5S supply has been low, but I think low supplies (with presumed high demand) is part of Apple's product release strategy. Unlike Samsung phones, for example, (when was the last time people camped out for a Samsung- anything?), Apple uses the supply factor, I think, to prolong the demand--and thus, prolong the "newness" and the hype. So, I think supply constraints actually make sense for Apple; they knew the 5S would be a hit, so why not stretch it out? My wife got her champagne 5S Sept. 23, and it's still a topic of conversation when people see it "for the first time,"---a phone that has been shipping for over a month. This trend will likely continue through the holiday season...
 
Thunderhawks said:
Seriously, read up on international marketing and how products get launched !

For starters since people are willing to wait there is no issue for Apple to lose sales. Might as well sell and work on the supply issues.

In all countries there are holiday seasons and a lot of preparation has gone into
booking advertising, store displays, making deals with carriers etc.etc.

The multitude of steps and workload cannot be pulled out of a drawer overnight.

To those who think America is alone in the world and only it deserves the best, the most, the fastest, never ending supplies, no supply bottle necks etc.etc:

Do yourself a favor and travel. There is an entire world out there full of problems.

Having to WAIT (OMG) for a phone isn't going to kill you!
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Seriously, the problems are deeper than that. Firstly, I placed an order on the Apple store with an estimated 2-3 week dispatch. As soon as the order went through, what did I get - an estimated 3-4 weeks delivery date. So the supply problems are deeper than they are trying to suggest.

Secondly, despite mounting orders on the online stores, they are still sending stock to the shops for people to walk in off the street and buy. OK, you have to be there early and queue - but it's favouritism for people who happen to live close enough to a store in order to be able to do so.

And the two times I've tried, nobody seemed particularly fussy about what model they got. Possibly because a significant number of people queueing up are doing so just so that they can stick them straight onto ebay and make a profit.

So, it's not just a case of saying they shouldn't be entering new markets whilst they can't service the existing ones - they need to do more to ensure that genuine customers are able to purchase devices. Such as only having sales via the online store, with limited numbers distributed to same address / billed to the same card, or possibly with in store sales done via ordering and with ID, until supply constraints are resolved.
 
Well I guess it's quite a logistic challenge to grab all these 5C from all the rummage tables in countries where just a few wants to buy this phone and ship it back to the third world where absolutely no-one want to buy these phones.
 
Jsameds said:
The delivery estimate for US is 2-3 weeks it means you must have only just ordered it.
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You have no idea where I am, plz don't assume I'm American, it's not the only place these phones are available to order :) point remains if they can't even fulfil demand for orders in existing markets for weeks and weeks on end, how sparse are these things going to be in new markets?

Jsameds said:
If you wanted it earlier then you should have ordered it sooner.
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Awesome observation, Captain Obvious!
 
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mariotr87 said:
Sure, lets wait for every American to have one before allowing people in other countries to even attempt to order it :roll eyes:

The fact that Apple is an American company doesn't mean the rest of the world is secondary. They need to put these devices on the market in as many places as possible before the holidays season for obvious reasons.
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What don't you get about the fact that they really aren't in the market here, not a single store has stock here. It's not about every American having one. It's about they don't even have enough yet here not be in scarce supply. More countries just means more places where you can't get it.
 
grahamtriggs said:
Seriously, the problems are deeper than that. Firstly, I placed an order on the Apple store with an estimated 2-3 week dispatch. As soon as the order went through, what did I get - an estimated 3-4 weeks delivery date. So the supply problems are deeper than they are trying to suggest.

Secondly, despite mounting orders on the online stores, they are still sending stock to the shops for people to walk in off the street and buy. OK, you have to be there early and queue - but it's favouritism for people who happen to live close enough to a store in order to be able to do so.

And the two times I've tried, nobody seemed particularly fussy about what model they got. Possibly because a significant number of people queueing up are doing so just so that they can stick them straight onto ebay and make a profit.

So, it's not just a case of saying they shouldn't be entering new markets whilst they can't service the existing ones - they need to do more to ensure that genuine customers are able to purchase devices. Such as only having sales via the online store, with limited numbers distributed to same address / billed to the same card, or possibly with in store sales done via ordering and with ID, until supply constraints are resolved.
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It is nearly impossible to predict actual sales numbers vs. plan, especially by color, configuration etc..
Production output is also a fixed number, as one cannot and will not set up production just for peak demands.
They adjust as they go, see reducing the 5C capacity.

If you were Apple what would you do? Sell everything you can I hope.

This is nothing new with this situation (having to wait for an iPhone due to overwhelming demand)

I have never had a problem buying any generation iPhone I wanted. That's because I just wait until there is enough supply.

Waiting for something you did without for your entire life, should not be a big deal.
 
jnc said:
You have no idea where I am, plz don't assume I'm American, it's not the only place these phones are available to order :) point remains if they can't even fulfil demand for orders in existing markets for weeks and weeks on end, how sparse are these things going to be in new markets?



Awesome observation, Captain Obvious!
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Lame comeback as the shipping estimate everywhere is 2-3 weeks, not just the US, but silly me for assuming that you wanted to put the rest of the worlds supply of iPhone's on hold just so you can get yours.
 
Jsameds said:
Lame comeback as the shipping estimate everywhere is 2-3 weeks, not just the US, but silly me for assuming that you wanted to put the rest of the worlds supply of iPhone's on hold just so you can get yours.
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As you swerved my question last time in order to attack me for BEING A CUSTOMER (silly me for buying something and wanting it)... again, I ask - If there is no stock for existing markets... How are new markets even getting any?
 
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macs4nw said:
They are most likely just planning ahead, knowing their supplies are ramping up, with those 5C lines converted to 5S production.
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Hopefully the production environments are linked in that way, yes. I think everyone who wants a 5c has one at this point, :p
 
Reasonable to think that the current constraints that people are experiencing are due to the stockpiling of units for launches in new territories?

It's not going to get worse, Apple don’t just suddenly split their trucks on the way out of the factory on the launch day, they build up to it.
 
tymaster50 said:
"Hey guys, we're already low on supplies, lets do it in some more countries"

*everyone cheers and raises their drinks in the air*
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I doubt that they are really low on supplies. I think it's more an artificially created shortage in order to prevent the 5C from becoming a total FLOP!

Seriously, I was in a number of Apple stores last week (Hong Kong, Anchorage, New York) and no iPhones 5S were available for purchase. Those Apple 'geniuses' can't even tell when or if a shipment is coming in, or what's inside this shipment. Helloooow?! Track & trace anybody...? Amazing that a business as big as Apple has such a lousy logistic system in place that they don't even know have a rough idea of when and how they will supply their stores.

Nevertheless the store 'geniuses' were always asking if "I didn't want a 5C instead." Go figure... :cool:
 
B744748 said:
I doubt that they are really low on supplies. I think it's more an artificially created shortage in order to prevent the 5C from becoming a total FLOP!

Seriously, I was in a number of Apple stores last week (Hong Kong, Anchorage, New York) and no iPhones 5S were available for purchase. Those Apple 'geniuses' can't even tell when or if a shipment is coming in, or what's inside this shipment. Helloooow?! Track & trace anybody...? Amazing that a business as big as Apple has such a lousy logistic system in place that they don't even know have a rough idea of when and how they will supply their stores.

Nevertheless the store 'geniuses' were always asking if "I didn't want a 5C instead." Go figure... :cool:
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The "geniuses" are technical support, so why on earth would they even have inventory information? Let alone share shipment data with random passer-by such as yourself. Imagine the security implications
 
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