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As of today there are 50 million iphones. As we have learned earlier around 8 million 3GS have been sold in 2009. So there are probably around 12 million 3GS out now.

So basically 38 million iPhone users don't have a 3GS, the vast majority has a 3G. These won't get the full 4.0 experience.

It'll be interesting to see how many of them will keep their 3G, switch to a 3GS or newer iPhone and how many will switch platforms.

IMHO many of them will get a dumb phone and an iPad. This might be critical in terms of iPhone sales for Apple.

Why an earth would anyone get an iPad and a ******* phone...that makes no sense...it's like saying why get the new iPhone I'll just buy a MBA and a crap phone...at the end of the day an iPad won't carried everywhere with someone, and who wants a media player/games console as big as the iPad when your out about...most ridiculous statement every!!!
 
I don't see a major problem with this update not being available for the 3G or older. Apple will certainly be bringing out a new and improved iPhone this summer and those who bought a 3G early on will be eligable for upgrades around that time too. New OS or no new OS, I would still be buying a new iPhone anyway to take advatage of any new hardware additions (as well as all those added on the 3GS), not to mention the increased memory. Would be nice to have more than 16GB!

Welcome to my world. I'm one of the bunch who got a 3G early only and am eligible for upgrade in...May I think? But when I found out my 3G is getting the half-assed version of the software update, I'm now thinking of getting a 3GS because not only is it a better phone, but I'm also using ALL but 120MB of my 16GB of space so I don't even think I could upgrade my software anyway, I need 32 gigs. Uggggh, I wanted to wait it out for the new iPhone but I don't think I can...And I was saving for an iPad 3G.

Damn you Apple! :mad:
 
The new phone can be used as an induction stovetop!

Oh, no reception, no prepay, no plan for light data users...too bad.

No problem having to update the old 1st Gen with a partly dead screen, but it will have to be something else until the rest of us are served.
 
Three cheers for planned obsolescence!

Hey sheep! Yes you sheep! You better replace that yucky old slow iPhone!
 
First of all, to my knowledge all those service packs for XP are mostly, if not entirely, bug fixes and security patches, NOT new features. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

And as far as the poor person who just bought the 3G? It's a year+ old device. Do your homework is what I say. If I was about to spend a significant amount of money on a year+ old device and platform, I would do my research first so there would be no surprise that next month when a new version comes out. It's called being a smart consumer.

Spare me, I bet if that was your mom or girlfriend getting f**ked over you wouldn't feel the same. Ok so what if its a year old, Apple never tells you what specific day it is coming out with hardware. All the speculation about an upgrade could be a rumor. And if the poor person is going to hold up his end of a long term contract, the least Apple and ATT can do is not bs him saying a simple task is not possible. Does anyone know if this will be 9.99 for ipod touch users?
 
I had a feeling Apple would do this, which is why I decided to go for the 64GB touch just to be safe.
 
I had a feeling Apple would do this, which is why I decided to go for the 64GB touch just to be safe.

The break point was not memory capacity but hardware revision level. You just wasted money for no reason.

This iPad is "admittedly" the crude V1.0 one. Like iPhone 1G. The first one forsaken. The good news? It took three years!

Apple NEVER looks back. I am just as upset about it as anybody, but the only advise I can offer is, "get over it!"

Rocketman

WTB: an iPad dock with all past Apple plugs and interfaces so we can use old equipment and software. :)
 
Before the media event I was looking to get a new protective case for my iPhone 3G. Now I'm looking forward to the end of my contract. I have no doubt left in my mind that I'm getting a Droid.
 
I have one question and one question only... Does Jobs feel no shame openly lying in the public like that? Incapable hardware my backside :mad:

I've had multitasking and folders for a while with my original iPhone thanks to jailbreak!! So apple can keep their hands off my pocket for now :rolleyes:
 
I have one question and one question only... Does Jobs feel no shame openly lying in the public like that? Incapable hardware my backside :mad:

I've had multitasking and folders for a while with my original iPhone thanks to jailbreak!! So apple can keep their hands off my pocket for now :rolleyes:

I'm on Jobs' side here. While the hardware is capable of it (many of us have jailbroken our old iPhones), Apple's priority is a consistent user experience. That means smooth operation and very few crashes. Also, of course he wants people to upgrade to new ones. It's a business.
 
I'm on Jobs' side here. While the hardware is capable of it (many of us have jailbroken our old iPhones), Apple's priority is a consistent user experience. That means smooth operation and very few crashes. Also, of course he wants people to upgrade to new ones. It's a business.

I agree its good for business (for apple which I have nothing to do with, but I still agree). But the insult of customer intelligence is just embarrassing.
 
I have one question and one question only... Does Jobs feel no shame openly lying in the public like that? Incapable hardware my backside :mad:

I've had multitasking and folders for a while with my original iPhone thanks to jailbreak!! So apple can keep their hands off my pocket for now :rolleyes:

The 3g has slower boot times and I imagine laggy jailbroken to multitask!

The thing is your brought a phone know full well of the features at the time! we are lucky now that the phones get updates with new stuff even though there are most other handsets on the market that dont! and some features we never see till a next version!

The 3g is slow like running windows 7 on a 486! get over it! upgrade if not its is more than capable of what it did when you first brought it as advertised!

I could go out and buy a washing machine tommrow do you expect the manufacture to upgrade it to dry cloths in 8 months? (no you buy a washer dryer first off your choice or not!)

The 3GS was NEVER brought out to multitask so all 3GS users would be moanin if they kept it till the 4G and omittied the 3GS but luckly they brought at the right time and got an added perk! you cant win all ways, tech does age!!

:)
 
I'm on Jobs' side here. While the hardware is capable of it (many of us have jailbroken our old iPhones), Apple's priority is a consistent user experience. That means smooth operation and very few crashes. Also, of course he wants people to upgrade to new ones. It's a business.

Let me explain something to you :) You are not Steve. You do not have to identify with him. You are a customer. You do not care that "he wants people to upgrade to new ones". You care about your rights which seemingly were neglected in this case. All too often Apple users care more about Apple than about themselves. There is something very wrong with that.
 
Let me explain something to you :) You are not Steve. You do not have to identify with him. You are a customer. You do not care that "he wants people to upgrade to new ones". You care about your rights which seemingly were neglected in this case. All too often Apple users care more about Apple than about themselves. There is something very wrong with that.
Give me a fricken break. the iPhone 3G will still get most of the features but not multi-tasking because it has half of the ram of the 3GS. It's really that simple.

Some features like video recording may have been held back from the 3G when 3.x came out for no reason other than product differentiation when the 3GS came out but Apple is not your friend, they are a company out to make money. But having less ram is reasonable justification.

I work as a developer and in the windows world and I see the pain that MSFT's tendency to drag out backwards compatibility has on web developers for example with having to support IE6 even in this day in age. Thankfully, support for IE6 is coming to an end later on this month if MSFT does not release another service pack for XP and that means that companies can start phasing out official support for IE6 and gently nudging even corporate customers to a newer browser. If the browser is no longer patched, financial sites can start displaying messages that IE6 is not recommended any longer.
 
The 3g has slower boot times and I imagine laggy jailbroken to multitask!

The thing is your brought a phone know full well of the features at the time! we are lucky now that the phones get updates with new stuff even though there are most other handsets on the market that dont! and some features we never see till a next version!

The 3g is slow like running windows 7 on a 486! get over it! upgrade if not its is more than capable of what it did when you first brought it as advertised!

I could go out and buy a washing machine tommrow do you expect the manufacture to upgrade it to dry cloths in 8 months? (no you buy a washer dryer first off your choice or not!)

The 3GS was NEVER brought out to multitask so all 3GS users would be moanin if they kept it till the 4G and omittied the 3GS but luckly they brought at the right time and got an added perk! you cant win all ways, tech does age!!

:)

I believe upgradeability was one of the selling points of the iPhone. So yes I did pay for getting new features. I would still accept that Apple is a corporation and they need to think about their profitability, only if they did not come out with all these lies to justify their decision. According to Apple the original iPhone is not capable of A2DP, yet here I’m enjoying full A2DP on mine thanks to jailbreak!

Also do not forget that soon I will be out of apps that I can purchase on app store which will all be screaming for 4.0. If you really want to compare, how about my 5 year old Motorola phone which runs Linux and still supports the latest apps that are released thanks to Java VM?

Anyway I would rather vote with my wallet than letting out steam here. Shame I really like the iPhone tho. And yeah before someone feels smart and retorts with “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out” I will take care of that :)
 
Let me explain something to you :) You are not Steve. You do not have to identify with him. You are a customer. You do not care that "he wants people to upgrade to new ones". You care about your rights which seemingly were neglected in this case. All too often Apple users care more about Apple than about themselves. There is something very wrong with that.

Brilliant comment....I agree, what is with that? Its quite sad IMO:(
 
Ah, darn, I just realized my iPod touch is a 1G not a 2G. I wish Apple would announce a Verizon iPhone. I wouldn't want to get a new iPod touch just to have them come out with the iPhone I've been waiting for shortly after.
 
As there is no technical reason why the 2G iPhone isn't supported (same hardware as the 3G except for the cellular parts), for me it's just another scam (as MMS support for the 3G, which could just be enabled on 2G via the jailbreak).

Don't get me wrong, at some point they have to stop supporting old hardware, but it's bad to lie to your customers and state technical reasons when you just want to maximize your profits.

Where did they say there WAS a technical reason the 2G wasn't supported?
 
I consider the multitasking the best feature and 3G isn't getting it. That's what I meant :eek:

The 3G isn't getting multitasking because it has half the RAM of a 3GS and a slower processor. Unlike last year there is a sound technical reason why they wouldn't want to do it.
 
What about all of the apps that will no doubt require the 4.0 OS? Are all of those old iPhone owners supposed to just abandon their investment into the app store? It's not that simple dude. Apple is screwing all of their consumers.

Bollocks. They have a phone that is over 2 years old. In the mobile phone market, that's obselete. Apple is no different to any other mobil phone manufacturer.
 
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