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A good day to retreat from a warm network cupboard, with a new M1 mini in a 1U Rackmac enclosure, complete with its TB3 to 10GbE brick.

No wait... arrggg!!

I think the 10GbE adapter draws more power than the M1.

In other news, the LED on the M1 mini does not align with the corresponding hole on the Rackmac. Bummer.
 
Looks like a new upgrade feature for M1 Mac Minis soon! Maybe 10 Gbps option was not ready for initial launch date sales.
 
Are there any here that have transferred over to real 10GB ethernet on their home network? If so what did it cost and what equipment would they recommend in lower price racket.
I do photo and video work. 4K and above video will eat any and all bandwidth. I have a 16TB RAID0 array in a PC tower and use 10GbE to TB3 to my 16" MBP. On the tower I get 1.5GB/s reads so 10GbE is actually limiting my RAID array speeds on the mac but it's enough for streaming content into Adobe Premiere seamlessly
 
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I use Aquantia AQN-107S in my PC which works in Windows as well as Hackintosh. My Qnap NAS also has same chipset based PCIe card. Then I use QNAP Switch which has 4 10Gbe ports and 8 1Gbe ports. They are all connected to Asus RT-AX88U with LAG ethernet bonding.
I max out my QNAP NAS while transferring data at 850 MBPS and falls under my expectations of this setup. Adding a Mac Mini 10Gbe model would mean eliminating hackintosh all together.
The max out at 850 Mb means it's equal to 1 Gb ethernet, unless the bottleneck is in the NAS or the drives or did you mean to write 850 MB? This is what I have heard that some 10 Gb equipment may not be "truly" 10 Gb, do you know if it's the NAS or the switch or ?
 
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These must be for government contracts or some serious enterprise purchases. Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually come out with a Pro level mini that jacks up the entry price way up and includes things like 10G ethernet and more ports.
Excellent post! The good old glass half empty. Negative nancie. Look at the worst about Apple. SMH.
 
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Have things improved with 10Gb? When I looked about a year ago there was only 1 switch that was not outrageous in price. And 10Gb NICs are very expensive too.

I would like to get 10Gb for my NAS, but it was very pricey when I looked last.
 
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I do photo and video work. 4K and above video will eat any and all bandwidth. I have a 16TB RAID0 array in a PC tower and use 10GbE to TB3 to my 16" MBP. On the tower I get 1.5GB/s reads so 10GbE is actually limiting my RAID array speeds on the mac but it's enough for streaming content into Adobe Premiere seamlessly

40Gb and 100Gb networking protocols are available if you're rich and like the sound of jet engines.

The max out at 850 Mb means it's equal to 1 Gb ethernet, unless the bottleneck is in the NAS or the drives or did you mean to write 850 MB? This is what I have heard that some 10 Gb equipment may not be "truly" 10 Gb, do you know if it's the NAS or the switch or ?

They said 850MB not 850Mb. 850MB/sec = 6.8Gb/sec.
 
How could this suddenly be an option? I'm sure some who already have their Mac Mini M1s, but wanted higher rate Ethernet port, may feel a twinge of regret. What next? two more TB ports?
 
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I am glad that there is an entry level Mac Mini with the current specs. I personally am holding out for a configuration with 4 TB4, 10GB Ethernet, 32 GB of RAM and concurrent support for at least 2 monitors.
 
Please Apple. 32GB RAM and 10GbE and I'll buy one right now.
I don’t need 10GbE myself, but I need to run three 1440p monitors and would like 32GB of RAM. I’d have one already ordered if this was possible.
 
I use Aquantia AQN-107S in my PC which works in Windows as well as Hackintosh. My Qnap NAS also has same chipset based PCIe card. Then I use QNAP Switch which has 4 10Gbe ports and 8 1Gbe ports. They are all connected to Asus RT-AX88U with LAG ethernet bonding.
I max out my QNAP NAS while transferring data at 850 MBPS and falls under my expectations of this setup. Adding a Mac Mini 10Gbe model would mean eliminating hackintosh all together.
My storage units and home desktops are all on 10gbe. Startech dual port cards under 300, (ST10GPEXNDPI) and netgear 8 port unmanaged 10gbe switch for 480. Yes still little pricey but well worth it for me
 
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I'll order a 10gbe Mini today. I currently have a Synology NAS I'd be happy to replace with one of these and TB drive enclosure.
 
2.5 GBe and 5 GBe is already significantly faster than Gigabitethernet. They are also more power efficient than 10 GBe. In addition, 2.5 GBe also works with "old" cables.
This makes it more interesting and cheaper for the mass of users. A NIC with 10 GBe can usually also be used with 2.5 GBe and 5 GBe.

For example, I have an Odroid H2+ with 2x 2.5 GBe Ethernet, which I currently use as a server with TrueNAS.

I very much hope that Mac mini will soon get 10 GB Ethernet as an option.

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As switch I use a NETGEAR MS510TX.
 
Ultimately Apple is going to have to make XServe's again with M-class chips, probably when Mac Pro is released.
I doubt that! I don't think that the server market is where Apple wants to play - Steve Jobs killed the XServe because it didn't make any money. We also don't know whether Apple's virtualization hypervisor is suitable for running multi-tenant workloads, and this is a core feature for Cloud services (almost no-one is running on physical machines now).

The M1 is also still a very small CPU by modern standards and the economies of scale lead to the use of much larger chips, whether Intel, AMD or the various ARM designs (like Amazon, Ampere, Marvell). The ARM Neoverse N1 design used by the above vendors goes up to 128 cores per socket. These make sense for Cloud servers where users are provisioning a subset of the available vCPUs for each virtual instance. These servers are often "oversubscribed" to support a larger number of VMs - i.e. the server will support more VMs than it has physical cores for because not all VMs are running 100% of the time. An M1 CPU could probably only run up to a dozen or so small VMs, and maybe only 1 or 2 larger ones. This is not cost-effective if you consider that each server needs its own memory, storage, power supply, interfaces etc. There could be multi-socket machines, but there are no indications that Apple Silicon has been designed to support multi-socket configurations.

Commodity Server hardware (and running cloud data centers) probably have low margins, which are recouped by the services offered on them and AFAIK, Apple does not want to become a generic Cloud Service provider like AWS, Microsoft, Google, Rackspace etc.

It's conceivable that Apple might use some variant of Apple Silicon in its own data centers for some specific Apple services...but it's probably not worth the investment in developing specialize high-core count server chips, unless this is an offshoot from their Mac Pro designs.
 
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I wasn't surprised when I saw that they (appeared to have) dropped the 10gbe option from the new Minis. The controllers that Apple was using in their Intel minis seemed to be generating a lot of heat; some of us had issues with them malfunctioning, if only under Bootcamp (see here). It's sure nice when it works, though! I can at least max out the SSDs in my NAS (~550 MB/s).
 
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I almost pulled the trigger and bought up today, but I this post made me stop. I recently upgraded my network to 10GBe so obviously would rather have something built in. Yes, I know I can use USB-C adapters. I already have a few of them.

The other thing holding me back is only 16GB RAM. Ya ya, I know about unified RAM but I am having a hard time believing it. Seeing some benchmarks make me second guess my self on it.

I guess I might as well just hold off right now because it's not like I can get them anytime soon. Soon as you add the upgraded RAM it adds a month to shipping.
 
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