It took 10+ years before they changed the connector for the iPod/iPad. Are they supposed to use the same one for 20+? 50+?
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Apple Looking to Boost In-Car Integration of Maps and Siri in iOS 7
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It took 10+ years before they changed the connector for the iPod/iPad. Are they supposed to use the same one for 20+? 50+?
The IP5 adapter for BMW was expected in June but was recently released.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=814703
They might have kept the same connector for that long but it changed when the iPhone 3GS came out (or it did here)
I had a car kit for the first iPhone and the 1st gen iPod Touch (plus other connecting kits in the house)
When the 3GS came out they change how it worked (Firewire charging?) and non of my devices charged with the new kit and gave a warning about being incompatible
Too bad any of this new stuff likely would require a new vehicle. I have a 2006 Toyota with Bluetooth, it would be nice if there was some functionality (or even a hack) that would convert the phone pickup or phone hangup buttons to activate Siri.
Thankfully holding down the home button does go through the bluetooth stereo system but... it would be ideal to touch the steering wheel and not the phone.
Thankfully holding down the home button does go through the bluetooth stereo system but... it would be ideal to touch the steering wheel and not the phone.
this tech exists
Pioneer's flawed "App Radio" units do this...they use iOS' video-out mode to render apps (maps, photos, cal, etc) onto the Pioneer head unit's 6" touchscreen. besides viewing content, you can actually tap around and use the apps. ive tested Netflix, MotionX GPS, etc...
it doesnt work perfectly well, mostly due to Pioneer's crummy programming and UI, but it does work. correction: *did* work, on iphone 4. they are having massive problems w/ iphone5 connectivity now.
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huh? the 30-pin doc was in service for what, 10 or 12 years?
guess youve never bought a head unit for your car before, huh? they slide into the spot where the factory radio is.
Pioneer's flawed "App Radio" units do this...they use iOS' video-out mode to render apps (maps, photos, cal, etc) onto the Pioneer head unit's 6" touchscreen. besides viewing content, you can actually tap around and use the apps. ive tested Netflix, MotionX GPS, etc...
it doesnt work perfectly well, mostly due to Pioneer's crummy programming and UI, but it does work. correction: *did* work, on iphone 4. they are having massive problems w/ iphone5 connectivity now.
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huh? the 30-pin doc was in service for what, 10 or 12 years?
guess youve never bought a head unit for your car before, huh? they slide into the spot where the factory radio is.
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Shut YO Mouth! Don't give them ideas!
A car with it's own closed eco-system - have to use their gasoline, their oil, their mechanics, it'll track your every movement....
Meh. Not a fan. I got a better idea. Make a car instead!
A car with it's own closed eco-system - have to use their gasoline, their oil, their mechanics, it'll track your every movement....
Find a docking connector from 10 years ago and tell me how it works with an iphone 4
bmw dock
Looks like it just plugs into the cig lighter and stays in upright.
What's that iPhone 5 holder the BMW has? I haven't seen any for the 5..
Looks like it just plugs into the cig lighter and stays in upright.
Maps
I've never had maps fail on me yet. I've been driving all over the east coast since it came out.
I've never had maps fail on me yet. I've been driving all over the east coast since it came out.
Hook Siri into the audio system, hook the screen into the auto video system. Apple has provisions for this. The auto makers need to put it into their cars. For example the Siri button should be on the steering wheel. Eyes Free implementations put it on the hang up button for the car phone, for example. Tap it while not on the phone and you get Siri. They also need a way to switch their display from its normal functions to showing the phone video output. A button on the console, perhaps
On Apple's side, two main things are needed. Siri must do much more. This includes controlling third party apps. To do this they must open a Siri API. In a car, I want to verbally say zoom the map in and out, an API will allow this stuff.
Apple must also be able to show more on external video, such as a car display. Mirroring isn't enough. to show its maps on the car display, it needs to send a nice 4:3 image at car display resolution, not a tall thin or short wide mirror of the phone display.
On Apple's side, two main things are needed. Siri must do much more. This includes controlling third party apps. To do this they must open a Siri API. In a car, I want to verbally say zoom the map in and out, an API will allow this stuff.
Apple must also be able to show more on external video, such as a car display. Mirroring isn't enough. to show its maps on the car display, it needs to send a nice 4:3 image at car display resolution, not a tall thin or short wide mirror of the phone display.
what on earth are you talking about? have you never seen the "car audio" section of best buy or other retailers? there are TONS of iOS-equipped third-party head units out there... they are always eager to employ new iOS features.
Maps have been fine. No major problems with routes and such. There were only two big problems. The thing everyone complained about at first was merely those wavy-road pictures. This had nothing to do with bad routing or misplaced roads. It was strictly a visual artifact that happened at 3D-to-2D transition points when viewing in flyover mode, which never affected navigation. So not big after all, and is fixed at this point.
The second problem is that there are many, many missing points of interest, businesses, stores, gas stations, and so on. And the search for places is way worse than google's for example. For one thing, it doesn't seem to take distance into consideration very well. If I'm in Texas and search for "paris" it is just as likely to send me to France or Tennessee than the actual place I wanted only 50 miles away. Places and search needs help big time. The maps themselves, not so much.
Everyone will need to upgrade their car to use this since cars will not be upgradeable to use it. At least my new Toyota syncs my phone, contacts, and music automatically. I will have to make due for at least the next 5 years.
But what they have going for them is that they are free to use. Since the maps are stored, most dedicated car navs rely only on GPS. That is extremely important when driving across country borders.
I seriously don't want to clock up $1000 bills for mobile data when going (driving) on vacation each summer.
Apart from that you are right. The always updated maps on my iPhone, the graphics and the speech synthesis beats my BMW's car nav hands down. But, what I mentioned before has to be solved before it can be considered a real replacement.
you can install a "double-din" head unit w/ touchscreen on almost any relatively recent car. i bought a used 2005 Scion Xb and installed the Pioneer AppRadio into it.
re-tooling the steering wheel controls is a common procedure at car audio install shops. this lets third-party head units use them when replacing the stock radio.
The 30 pin dock connector lasted a decade and when Apple announced the Lighting connector they called it the connector for the next decade, so I have no idea where this 3-4 year idea comes from.
New hardware not working with old decks isn't a problem with the new hardware, it's a problem with old decks. They aren't designed to move forward with newer hardware. They are designed to work at the time of sale, and then are neglected afterwards.