I hear ya, bro. For the past 4 years, I've used dual SIM phones exclusively. Instead of carrying 2 phones (one for work, one personal), I carry only one now.
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Apple Losing Ground to Android Competitors in India and China Due to Local Market Challenges
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So the first point gets cleared that it is not just the underdeveloped countries impose taxes, even the developed (?) Countries impose same amount of taxes (may be in different form such as VAT).
for me its not....
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well we can afford it and do you the Biggest Market Share for ONEPLUS is INDIA and it costs around $500... the only country Oneplus launches its special edition phones are in India and the only thing that is stoping apple from becoming a market leader is "excessive prices" on which prices are launched not "regular prices".
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Apple has always looked at revenue rather than volume. They have ceded the low cost / high volume phones to other manufacturers.
Of course they could make a cheap phone for India or China but they don't wish to.
If people don't feel like an iPhone is worth the price, just get an Android one instead.
Apple charges for its software... not its hardware... the biggest turnoff is when, even after the lowest growth rate in recent years how apple is able to make more than 50% of mobile market profits...
the apple products are clearly overpriced and they sell ultra premium prices...
Sorry, consumers in the so called underdeveloped country do not expect cheaper flagship mobiles from Apple, instead the same price they sell it in their own home market which is considered as a developed country!
Apple can close and leave & that's their wish, but world will still move on..with more valuable mobiles in such countries....from every other OEM across the globe.
Why should Apple (or any other company) lower margins/ give away its intellectual property to another country when that country had zero part in coming up with the innovation in the first place? Apple wants a $1000 for its iPhone - if the consumers don't believe that is fair or justified - they shouldn't buy Apple products. Which is exactly what is happening in India and Apple is fine with it. So actually I don't see either side has a problem with the current situation. Apple is not eroding margins to get into poor countries and Indian consumers are buying OnePlus or Samsung or whatever else they think justifies their money.
No, I don't think so... you have a little less knowledge about this topic.... You should check your facts a bit.
Based on IDC data, the average selling price for smartphones in 2017:
- India: $157
- China: $301
- U.S: $460
The "middle class" in India is unable to afford a even a motorized scooter. So an iPhone is like an untouchable halo product. The country has other more fundamental problems to solve like its 75% literacy rate or 85% access to electricity rate before Apple can sell iPhones in the country.
That's because robot phones spend the majority of their lives plugged into the wall.
Being an authoritarian regime that censors everything hurts China's reputation to the world. By the way, the Chinese government does everything it can to help Chinese companies and prevent Apple from competing, because they can't play on a fair field. Everyone knows that Apple products are of a higher quality than cheap Chinese brands, and the Chinese people generally favor Apple products when the Chinese government is not trying to force Hauwei and Xiaomi down their throats so that they can maintain their iron fist surveillance and censorship network.
OMG Market Share! I am so sick of these articles. You would have to be the stupidest person on earth (assuming you follow this stuff) to think Apple has ever given two rats a$$es about market share. They say all the time, they don't care about it, and their actions are even more clear. But here we are with another Apple is doomed article because market share is slipping. Business is about one thing and one thing only, MONEY! Who is making the money? I think we all know the answer to that. Let the lesser companies fight over bragging rights, while Apple rakes in all the money. They've been doing it for years, I wish people would get a clue.
Couldn’t say it any better! Why paying those profits to the shareholders when their products definitely need some R&D injection to stay relevant. Less profit margin on the products wouldn’t hurt either.
Neglecting the whole line these 6+ years has taken it’s toll.
Yet, Huawei is neck to neck with Samsung and Apple in terms of shipments for most of Europe.
Chinese people don't favor Apple products. Certainly not when Huawei offers 6" OLED displays and much larger batteries for the same price as an iPhone.
Ironic when the U.S. government bans Huawei, somehow it's China that isn't playing on a fair field.
I think in two years Apple will dump the phone business like it did with the Macs. They’ll say that it’s very important to them but will keep selling the years old iPhone SE at the same prices as if it was released yesterday. They keep milking the iPhone line like they’re doing with the Macs and probably start a whole new category (project Titan?) and dump the mac and iPhones. And all will repeat.... welcome to the new Apple where money is king.
These "Robot phones" you speak of, have better battery life and performance than the best iPhone in existence, and have been this way for quite some time.... No need to get super defensive about Apple's bad product designs. This is why i put my money into products that aren't gonna be throttled or become a brick in a few months.
LOL, China has the largest luxury market in the world.
Mercedes-Benz for example sells more vehicles in China than any other country.
There’s a difference between a tariff which is designed to make products coming into the country more expensive and therefore less attractive to consumers and a tax which is there to raise revenue for the government first and foremost.
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China is now the largest market in the world, 4-600 million people with western standards of income (difficult to get exact statistics). By comparison it’s about 325M in the US, 127M in Japan, 82M in Germany and only ~80M in India (again difficult to nail down precise figures, but apparently they are around the level of Germany). So despite being the second most populous country, India is much further down the list of markets for products like iPhones.
Read the article again. It says that the Apple iPhone price in India is higher then the US because of government charged customs. The India government charges huge customs if the manufacturer does not have a factory in India (India raised the customs twice in the last two months to get the manufacturers to build factories in India). It also says that the Samsung has a factory for their phones in India so a Samsung phone does have any customs added to their price.
In any case, it doesn't look like Apple is building an iPhone factory in India so the people in India can either get the government to change their customs laws or buy Android.
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Tariffs are generally used to keep a product out of a country.
In this case, India is indirectly telling Apple that they need to put a factory in India if they wish to sell their products (i.e. The tariffs will go away if Apple produces the iPhone in India).
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Apple has partnered with Wistron and has a factory in India. The iPhone SE is made in India. In fact, Apple sells the iPhone SE for $60 less in India compared to the U.S.
Apple continues to sell new iPhone 6 in India for $379.
The problem is related to demand. The vast majority of Indian consumers simply do not have the personal wealth or income to purchase iPhone.
Apple screwed up with India about a year ago.
Tim Cook traveled to China, and kissed butt (not criticizing; that's part of the job of a CEO), which included pushing Uber aside to invest $1B in DiDi.
Around that same time period, he traveled to India and tried to sell their politicians on allowing Apple to bring used iPhones into their market. No major investments. No stores. No manufacturing jobs. Used iPhones.
The Indian government was insulted and frankly, they're in the driver's seat. Apple needs India more than they need Apple.
Tim Cook traveled to China, and kissed butt (not criticizing; that's part of the job of a CEO), which included pushing Uber aside to invest $1B in DiDi.
Around that same time period, he traveled to India and tried to sell their politicians on allowing Apple to bring used iPhones into their market. No major investments. No stores. No manufacturing jobs. Used iPhones.
The Indian government was insulted and frankly, they're in the driver's seat. Apple needs India more than they need Apple.
I'm curious why the article stated that Apple was paying the tariff while Samsung wasn't ?
Could only the iPhone SE be tariff free and India wants Apple to manufacture their other iPhones there (i.e. Apple is paying tariff on their other iPhones) ?