Apple Losing It's Desktop Edge?

[GGJstudios]

I do see your point, and you are probably right...
But why do you think that anyones priority should be the well-being of Apple?

I didn't suggest that. Apple's well being is a priority to Apple and its stockholders and employees.

I love Apple desktops, and use them as a tool for my work, if they stop providing those tools I will have to look elsewhere... That is my priority, not the Apple stock.

That is certainly your right, and that's part of the point I'm making. If Apple isn't making products that meet your needs (which is their right), then you can buy products from another company (which is your right). That's a more mature approach than whining and complaining because Apple doesn't share your priorities and make what you want, when you want it. If they suddenly stopped making computers altogether, I'd simply buy what came closest to meeting my needs from another company. I may not like it, but ranting about it in a forum isn't going to change anything.

Yeah, I thought about this after I posted. The Mac mini doesn't seem positioned to replace the iMac or Mac Pro lines anytime soon, so I didn't consider it, and it's 300+ days old as well.

I wasn't suggesting that it would. I'm simply pointing out that a desktop is not required for programming.

As far as programming on an Air or MacBook Pro, my 40+ year old eyes aren't going to find any comfort in that 11-15" screen, and the resolutions are so low, gross amounts of scrolling would be needed in interface builder and in the simulators.

You know, those notebooks can be plugged into external displays.

 

[forty2j]

As far as programming on an Air or MacBook Pro, my 40+ year old eyes aren't going to find any comfort in that 11-15" screen, and the resolutions are so low

You know, that's a fantastic application for Retina...

 

[Viking23]

The reason there is no new iMac is all about profit. It has nothing to do with what we the consumer want. The laptops make lots of money, over priced as they are. So the rest of us have two choices. 1 - wait until a new iMac comes out - if ever. 2 - look at what other suppliers have to offer. After all Apple are not the only manufacturers of computers in the world.

As for me, I wanted a new iMac without the glossy screen, plenty of USB 3, fast processor and plenty of ram and the option to upgrade it if I wish and it hasn't appeared. So I will be looking elsewhere. There are plenty of good quality Windows desktops around. Which will be fine as long as I put a good anti virus program on. The other problem with macs is that they are getting far too expensive, in this time of countries going bust everyone will be looking to save money, so Apple could suffer in the long run.

Cheers

 

[NunoBerny]

Apple has seen that the 2011 iMac and the 2011 mac mini's will last and people will not buy so quickly.

I understand the logic behind this, but...if that's the way they will go, for how long will buyers be satisfied to buy machines that don't last long (or that "magically" last until a new update comes out)?

One of the reasons I will buy an iMac is exactly because it's said to be trustworthy.

I think Apple is at a crossroads and I'm not sure they will make the "right" decision.
I DON'T think the desktop is dead. Not even close.
To gear everything towards mobility is not a good move, IMHO.

Apple's rise was incredible and there is this notion that they can do no wrong. This is an illusion. Many brands thought they couldn't miss either and look where they are now (I look to my beloved Commodore AMIGA to reinforce this point).

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It is foolish to make sweeping assumptions about Apple, based on the lack of an update on your favorite product on a particular day. WWDC was not the only time Apple will ever update products.

Given the secrecy surrounding Apple, we can only guess at what they thinking.
Some are informed guesses, others not so much.
We have to read into what they are doing to guess what they will do.
Other than that, we may as well close the forums.

 

[iMacFarlane]

You know, that's a fantastic application for Retina...

What, you mean on the new 15" retina Macbook Pro? Still only 15". Need 21.5", want 27". Bring on the new iMacs!

 

[Fishrrman]

'This isn't to say they aren't competitive now - they are - but they used to be more than competitive. They used to be better than everyone else. Maybe this is the trough for them and something special is coming - but I suspect their attention is truly elsewhere, and the desktop Mac is a dinosaur in their eyes.'

Now that the Macintosh is based on Intel, there is no reason why the OS cannot be written to run on ANY decent Intel motherboard configuration.

Apple seems to be backsliding in a manner similar to how they did after Steve Jobs left for the first time -- insofar as the performance of their offerings can be compared to those of "competing platforms" (remember the clones?).

A few of the PC manufacturers like Dell ought to take a good look at each Mac OS release, and then offer a hardware platform that is as "closely compliant" to the Mac OS as can be made, short of including a copy of the OS itself. Leave that part of it "open", and creative individuals will arise to the situation and offer solutions….

 

[MonkeySee....]

The only reason I have a desktop is because its in my bedroom and a I watch TV and Movies on it.

If we get a TV in our bedroom, when I move, I'll most likely get a MacBook.

 

[forty2j]

What, you mean on the new 15" retina Macbook Pro? Still only 15". Need 21.5", want 27". Bring on the new iMacs!

Yes.. most programming just involves looking at lines of tiny text, and that tiny text will be incredibly crisp on the 15" Retina. It doesn't help for, say, having multiple files open side-by-side, but I imagine it would be immensely enjoyable for the majority of time you spend in a single file.

 

[borostef]

I didn't suggest that. Apple's well being is a priority to Apple and its stockholders and employees.

That is certainly your right, and that's part of the point I'm making. If Apple isn't making products that meet your needs (which is their right), then you can buy products from another company (which is your right). That's a more mature approach than whining and complaining because Apple doesn't share your priorities and make what you want, when you want it. If they suddenly stopped making computers altogether, I'd simply buy what came closest to meeting my needs from another company. I may not like it, but ranting about it in a forum isn't going to change anything.

I think we should all lighten up
Hey, we all have more or less functioning Macs, lets enjoy them...
Who knows, the updates may come tomorrow.

 

[bearda]

Yes.. most programming just involves looking at lines of tiny text, and that tiny text will be incredibly crisp on the 15" Retina. It doesn't help for, say, having multiple files open side-by-side, but I imagine it would be immensely enjoyable for the majority of time you spend in a single file.

There's a reason I (and every other developer in my company) have two 21 inch 4:3 monitors. I want to be able to see the API reference, the tags for the file I'm working on, and enough code to show context at the same time. Yeah, I can work with less if I need to, but the productivity gains justify the setup. Crisp text is nice, and I appreciate it on the new iPad when I'm killing time. I could never justify using a single 15 inch monitor over a genuinely useful setup, though.