I guess it could depend on whether you have a 1.25 with stock 40 gig drive, 1.25 with BTO 80 gig drive, or 1.42 with stock 80 gig drive. For all we know, Apple might be subcontracting to different Taiwanese manufacturers for these things, like they do with some of their other product lines as well.bpd115 said:
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Apple lowered the prices of Mac Mini upgrades! and now 8x Superdrive!
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Mini Prices on Mac Mini
This gotta be great news!
All we need now is to come up with a matching smaller and cheaper LCD display (say 15" and 17" wide screen versions...) less than $300,- and we could be looking at a very good deal, okay still less money than a cheap Dell, but then again, that Dell is also less computer (no one takes a Celeron serious now do we?, and sharing main mem ram for the video chip..., and lts not forget the crappy rag tag pile of software) and the Mac mini comes with the FULL version on OSX (not a consumer 'home edition') , iLife 05 (a PC equivalent still has to be found)...
Only one problem, trying to convince John Doe and Average Joe that the Mac is a better deal......
This gotta be great news!
All we need now is to come up with a matching smaller and cheaper LCD display (say 15" and 17" wide screen versions...) less than $300,- and we could be looking at a very good deal, okay still less money than a cheap Dell, but then again, that Dell is also less computer (no one takes a Celeron serious now do we?, and sharing main mem ram for the video chip..., and lts not forget the crappy rag tag pile of software) and the Mac mini comes with the FULL version on OSX (not a consumer 'home edition') , iLife 05 (a PC equivalent still has to be found)...
Only one problem, trying to convince John Doe and Average Joe that the Mac is a better deal......
HarmlessRabbit said:I'm not being insulting, just stating a fact. People buying Mini's now are giving up a $129 license to Tiger that they would get free if they wait. You say you'll wait at least a year before upgrading to Tiger. You're still giving up the free license that you would have for your use then, even if you upgrade in a year.
So, people buying mini's now don't care that if they wait less than six months they would get a free license worth over 20% of the base cost of the mini. Therefore, they must not be very price-sensitive. Where's the insult?
That is IF these consumers will want the upgrade. And there is no telling if there won't be future price increases on the Mac mini before Tiger is released that makes the differences for paying the extra cost later moot.
impierced said:
I'm also in the market for a KVM switch, but this one has had some horrible reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...20577-3733703?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846
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ScubaDuc said:
yes, saving as a disc image works perfectly. i burned an iDVD project on an external fw dvd burner to a DVD+RW disc (that played fine on an old panasonic dvd player) using toast. so, unless you want that all-in-one simplicity of the internal superdrive, it is not necessary to use iDVD5. however, i think my fw burner is probably around twice the size of the mac mini...
stealthboy said:
Not such a stupid argument if you look at what some are saying for the release of Tiger. Apple has said in the first half of the year. Well, January is almost over. So at most we are looking at 5 months. By some accounts we should expect it in March, so that is only two months.
Not everyone wants to adapt early. Nor can everyone afford to. In the end it comes down to the 80% of the purchasers as I see it, will really care about Tiger.
swissmann said:
As an owner of the Dell 2001FP, I can say this is no "budget" monitor. And with smart shopping at Dell you can get the 2005FPW that is every bit as good based on reviews here on MR, as the Apple display. It has been mentioned the strongest argument for the Apple display is either the FW ports or the SWOP certification. I had nor reason for either.
dicklacara said:
I question the sources that gave you that info. Only from the standpoint that Apple is opening themselves up to a class action lawsuit like the measurement of the monitors by saying that the new units will come with an 8x DVDR.
k2k koos said:
I just ordered a Dell 1704FPV for $290 (tax and shipping included) on the Dell small business site (17", DVI/VGA input and 4 port USB hub - but only 90 degree viewing angle horizontal and vertical and 25 mS response time, but I don't play games so don't care) - go to xpbargains.com to get the 30% off coupon that ends tomorrow.
Hmm - sounds like I'm pushing this for my own ulterior motives, but as far as I can tell, it's a great deal.
Now, I just need a DVI USB KVM switch that works.
Superhob said:Bummer!
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who checked with higher-ups and verified for me that the superdrive reads dvds at 8x and writes at 4x. This is not the same drive as in the the emacs or the powermacs. He said that they would correct the info on the apple store page.
I smell trouble for Apple on this one.
Who is getting in line for their $10 class action settlement right now?
Sounds like the Mac Mini wasn't selling at the rate Apple expected and needed them to. This probably will help get the numbers up a bit, I'm expecting.canyonblue737 said:
mcgarry said:
Given a comment I think in this thread from a recent PM purchaser, they ended up with a Sony 8x DVDR, not the crippled Pioneer 16 DL. So it seems that Apple is getting what it can and when it can and maintaining the basic spec level advertised.
plinden said:
After I started the first post in this thread about KVMs i looked on Amazon for reviews - most people reviewing the Belkin KVMs with bad reviews are STUPID. I went to belkins website and the setup couldn't be simpler and its almost impossible to get something wrong.
Some bad reviews there are true to that person, but look on Belkin's site (at the user guides, look at the PDF - quick install) - 3 Step Install!
Of course, the one you pointed out in your post to amazon is a KVM for 4 computers, whereas the ones you quoted were for 2 computers.
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0s and 1s said:That guy is an idiot!!
Careful, statements like that can get you banned. See the rules (https://forums.macrumors.com/announcement.php?f=1)
What I tried to do is show that some of what he was saying, particularly in regards to the Mac mini were a spot off.
kugino said:
Forgive a maybe OT stupid question. Do DVD players that currently accept the single layer accept the dual layer DVDs?
Thanks
HarmlessRabbit said:I'm not being insulting, just stating a fact. People buying Mini's now are giving up a $129 license to Tiger that they would get free if they wait. You say you'll wait at least a year before upgrading to Tiger. You're still giving up the free license that you would have for your use then, even if you upgrade in a year.
So, people buying mini's now don't care that if they wait less than six months they would get a free license worth over 20% of the base cost of the mini. Therefore, they must not be very price-sensitive. Where's the insult?
Well, first of all, we are GETTING a 129$ license to panther. And last time I checked, tiger was nothing but a set of promises and screenshots. Cant browse the web on it today. So the panther license in hand, is worth much more than the "tiger" license in ? months.
Yep, and if we were to wait less than 2 years, we could probably have the next. And in another year, maybe a g5 mini. Who knows? The point is, why wait wait wait wait wait. I would rather use MY mini for the next 6 months, and spend 129 bucks for tiger. No biggie. If I pack 1 lunch a week, saving me 5 dollars a week, by the time tiger is out, could buy it with my spare lunch money. Lol
come on guys, waiting 6 months for a purchase over 129$ is pretty silly if you ask me. Jump on the wagon, and enjoy 6 months of mini use, rather than being the "I am waiting for " kinda guy. In the tech biz, you WILL ALWAYS be waiting, cuz the "next" version is always gonna be better. In the tech biz, you just realize, its not a lifelong investment, and frequent upgrades make the most sense, costing you less per upgrade, as the old hardware still has good value. So stay on the wave, jump in when the waters warm, and stay on top by getting something new when it hits the streets, not straggling.
Chip NoVaMac said:
As far as I know, just about all DVD players made in the last 5 years support some form of dual layer DVDs. My old 1999 Samsung player reads dual layer discs just fine, even ones I've made using Sonic DVDIt on my own Windows PC. If you're talking about reading them on computers, I can't imagine any units that can't (generally speaking) read dual layer, as it has been part of the DVD spec since about 1996. There could be some brands of disc that are incompatible with certain drives though, as this has happened with most blank media.
Chip NoVaMac said:
The current SuperDrives can READ dual-layer DVDs. They just can't WRITE to dual layer DVDs.
0s and 1s said:The "idiot" that I referred to was me. I was the one that posted the thread about the injured finger and bent metal clips.
I was trying to make a joke. Apparently, it failed.
LOL, maybe I miss understood your comment. As I mentioned in a thread I had a medical scare last night, and am home till at least Friday.
This is from another thread:
"Ok I just got off the phone with Apple, here's the skinny:
My two built to order Minis, which haven't shipped yet, were automatically reduced in priced, and I hadn't even been billed yet for them since they hadn't shipped yet. I got the 4x SuperDrive upgraded to the 8x, and the woman on the phone said something to the effect of, "I'm sure they probably would have done that anyway even if you didn't call."
I think at this point, it's anybody's guess as to what speed the drives are...but it sure would be nice to find out once for sure...someone phone Jobs and ask.
I'm kind of inclined to believe that they are 4X, not 8X
"Ok I just got off the phone with Apple, here's the skinny:
My two built to order Minis, which haven't shipped yet, were automatically reduced in priced, and I hadn't even been billed yet for them since they hadn't shipped yet. I got the 4x SuperDrive upgraded to the 8x, and the woman on the phone said something to the effect of, "I'm sure they probably would have done that anyway even if you didn't call."
I think at this point, it's anybody's guess as to what speed the drives are...but it sure would be nice to find out once for sure...someone phone Jobs and ask.
I'm kind of inclined to believe that they are 4X, not 8X
matticus008 said:
Continuing OT a bit. So if I have a studio DVD that has 7gb of data, then that DVD is a dual layer - right? So the only issue is whether the DVD players can read a DVD-R that is DL - right? And following that logic, if the player will read a DVD-R single layer, it should read a DL - right?
Thanks again all for the help. Trying to decide on a Mac mini with SDD or just get an external DVDR with DL.
Yea I ordered my mini about 5 days ago with a superdrive so I'm not too concerned about this. Also the price seems to stay the same for me seeing how I have an edu discount and only got 512 and a superdrive on the 1.42- I wouldn't be suprised if apple screwed up and wrote 8X Superdrive because that is its read speed- yet it is the same 4X burner.... either way i wish they secretly upgraded to 64mb of video ram but that would be too awsome 3 more weeks till i get my mini
3 more weeks till i get my mini