Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
What puzzles me about this is that the Pound and the Euro are currencies that are not linked to each other. So how can they maintain the same standard pricing throughout Europe? I mean, say the Euro takes a dive of 30% next year, then will Apple have to reduce the price per download in the UK by something similar? Then again, I might be missing something here. :confused:
 
I dont know much about the UK music industry, but it seems kind odd to investigate Apple because the industry is demanding more money from Apple.
 
Despite being a fervent Apple fan and supporter I have never bought a single track from the iTunes UK store. I always resented being expected to pay more than other EU countries. Apple should not charge the UK more than other EU countries - and don't say it was the record labels because I'm buying from Apple so it's Apple's job to ensure they negotiate a fair deal. I don't believe for a second that Apple wasn't skimming themselves some extra pennies too.

And those of you saying that 74p is barely any different to 79p are forgetting two things - firstly, it's still 5p and 5p is 5p. Secondly when these complaints were filed in 2004 and when I first resolved not to buy from iTMS UK the Euro was weaker and 99c was more like 60p. That was much harder to swallow. I still don't buy now simply out of principle, and look forward to the standardised prices because I'll finally be able to buy from the iTMS.

The price difference to the US isn't such a big deal to me - firstly the dollar is very weak right now which isn't the fault of either Apple or the record companies, and also earnings are not equivalent. A smaller percentage of my paycheck would go towards buying a song from the iTMS than someone in an equivalent position in the US. It's not the same issue to me. That doesn't mean I'd turn my nose up at 61p iTMS tracks though. Not for a second :D
 
It's a start, but until they get European pricing down to the level of the US, I'll not be entirely happy.

99 cents = 51p, plus UK VAT @ 17.5% = 60p. Still a big difference from 74p.

Well, they have to ship their stuff to EU from US. So that's cloud (or air waves) shipping added:D
 
I'm certain this is Apple attempting to extend the iTunes Plus reach in the UK. If the record companies are offered maintaining DRMd 128kbps downloads for less money or adopting non-DRMd 256kbps and increasing their take, which do you think they'll take?
 
I'm certain this is Apple attempting to extend the iTunes Plus reach in the UK. If the record companies are offered maintaining DRMd 128kbps downloads for less money or adopting non-DRMd 256kbps and increasing their take, which do you think they'll take?

iTunes Plus songs cost 79p, the same as normal iTunes songs :confused:
 
Wow... first the Mac Pro gets released, now this? We must have a TON of stuff coming to us in the keynote!

Side note: guess those European media folk invited for a live stream must be in for something else... *mysterious* XD
 
It's going to take 6 months to shave 5p off each song.

Oh dear that's bad.
 
So why can't somebody living in the UK buy something from the US iTunes store? What, you're not allowed to do this if you're billing address is not in the US? Even then, you could just buy some US iTunes gift cards on your next trip to the US and use those. No?
 
Huh?

I'm certain this is Apple attempting to extend the iTunes Plus reach in the UK. If the record companies are offered maintaining DRMd 128kbps downloads for less money or adopting non-DRMd 256kbps and increasing their take, which do you think they'll take?

First of all, the DRM is implemented by Apple. I think the record companies only wanted DRM to be added to iTunes tracks for copyright purposes, but Apple wrote the DRM and maintains it. The record companies don't maintain DRM tracks themselves. Secondly, the iTunes Plus songs (256k, non-DRM) in the US are now all 99 cents as well.. same price as the 128k, DRM versions. So I don't see how the record companies will benefit from more money except for the fact that songs purchased from iTunes can be played on any player... iPod or Zune or whatever. This strategy however raises sales of songs and players... at least theoretically, and thus revenue for Apple and the record labels.
 
It's a start, but until they get European pricing down to the level of the US, I'll not be entirely happy.

99 cents = 51p, plus UK VAT @ 17.5% = 60p. Still a big difference from 74p.

Those m4a files are pretty heavy though, with all those drum kits and guitars, and entourages, and manufacturing media companies. The UK needs to factor in the freight shipping of all the music. Keep in mind those barges in the Birmingham canals full of music.

But seriously. Here's some news for you: you'll never be entirely happy with iTunes until the UK and US economies drastically change. Apply your wish to other things, whether it a Honda Civic or a pair of jeans. Things cost different amounts in different countries. For now, you'll have to just deal with it I'm afraid.
 
And those of you saying that 74p is barely any different to 79p are forgetting two things - firstly, it's still 5p and 5p is 5p.

really ... who cares about 5p? and it's a tiny price to pay for keeping our own currency.
 
Hey, don't tell anyone. But in Switzerland a song only costs 0.91 EUR..
Making the same price is not the solution. The optimal solution would have been to allow the people from every country to buy in another country. Just like it is with every other good. If you think the german prices for chocolate are too high, just go to france.. (I know stupid example :)
And I want to buy series and movies! Damn it.
 
Apply your wish to other things, whether it a Honda Civic or a pair of jeans. Things cost different amounts in different countries. For now, you'll have to just deal with it I'm afraid.
Oh, I do wish. I still pay out the money, but I also wish.

That said, I can understand & accept pricing differences for physical product, as there are a whole slew of supply-chain differences that can account for price differentials. With online downloads, there aren't - once the track has been recorded and the file has been created & posted there's no difference between UK, US, or wherever - so the price should be the same. Otherwise they're just gouging.

(And personally, I blame the recording companies and not Apple for this...)
 
So punishing consumers because they live in a different country is better?

That is eactly why it is a "very scary step in the wrong direction."

The EU is basically forcing buisinesses (in this case Apple) to regulate prices across multiple demographics without consideration to all of the other variables (taxes, licenses, strength of currency, etc) that vary based on the country in which they operate.

If these changes affect the business case of providing those goods or services in that country, and doing so will no longer be profitable, you can bet that you will see the number of choices available to the consumer diminish (or prices rise).

In this case, Apple had to perform an analysis to see how much of the EU marketshare was generated from the UK. Analyze if the price reduction (and losses) under the new UK price structure, could be eaten (ie offset by greater profits in the rest of the EU), and determine a course of action.

It looks like that analysis is very close to a breakeven point of tipping Apple's iTunes profitability into the red. This leads us to the statement that Apple will have to renegotiate with the content owners (record companies) to reduce their wholesale costs. If those negotiations fail, that will be less content to the UK and less choice for the consumer.

Very scary indeed.

Hickman
 
74p? when i read that the price would be dropped (without knowing how much european iTunes songs cost) i was expecting something more along the lines of 60p, then i might actually buy stuff from the iTunes store, but alas.... oh well, i rarely buy any music anyway...i hardily listen to most of the 20Gb of music i have.
 
It's a start, but until they get European pricing down to the level of the US, I'll not be entirely happy.

99 cents = 51p, plus UK VAT @ 17.5% = 60p. Still a big difference from 74p.

Most of the clothing sold in the UK is made in India and is way cheaper in India and comparatively cheaper in the US as well as compared to the UK. A Pepsi/Coke in the UK is more expensive than the US as well... so is water, so is food, etc. So I guess you don't eat, drink, wear anything?

It's just a fact of life my friend... things are priced differently in different countries. I live in Manhattan, but every time I visit the UK for business, whether it be London or the small town of Dorchester, I am shocked at how expensive similar things are in comparison to even a pricey city like NYC.
 
It's going to take 6 months to shave 5p off each song.

Oh dear that's bad.

No. It is going to take 6 months to renegotiate the wholesale price of songs with the content providers (or to remove unprofitable content altogether).

Hickman
 
It's a start, but until they get European pricing down to the level of the US, I'll not be entirely happy.

99 cents = 51p, plus UK VAT @ 17.5% = 60p. Still a big difference from 74p.

The US Dollar is pretty much worthless at the moment. The exchange rate is crazy at the moment, so bear this in mind when you do your conversation. If the US economy wasn't so terrible at the moment the price difference would be much smaller. Its not Apple's fault the Dollar is worthless.
 
This is really good news for the UK folks. Wonder how the record companies will react.

Maybe distributors in other EU states will raise the prices they charge Apple to the same level charged to Apple at the UK, LOL.

The idea is to charge the same in all EU states so uk distributors can lower their charges or the other countries can raise theirs.

I wonder which the distributors would prefer?
LOL
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.