I agree; not even close. But a lot people believe that exists. Somewhere, apparently.
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Apple Lowers Prices of iPhones, iPads, Macs, AirPods, and More in China as VAT Cut Takes Effect
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I agree; not even close. But a lot people believe that exists. Somewhere, apparently.
Pretty ironic since Americans can't buy Huawei but Chinese consumers can buy Apple.
I add to that the encouragement from the Chinese government to buy Chinese phones.
Actually it is true.
iPhones launched in the past two years are all over $800 in China, the xr currently starts around $928 in China. Apple mainly sells in the premium segment of the Chinese market
Apple owns 80 percent of the premium smartphone market. Huawei came in a distant second at 13%.
Which basically means for the 2018 fiscal year, if a Chinese consumer spent $800 and over for a smartphone, 8 out of 10 consumer bought an iPhone, 1 out of the 10 picked a mate 20.
Basically Apple used the changes in VAT as an excuses for Price Cut. As you can tell the price changes percentage are different between iPhone and all other Apple products, with iPhone getting ~5% while others are ~3%.
And most of the other Retail Channels already had their prices reduced for quite some time, the XR starts at 5xxx RMB.
My guess is with this quarter’s introduction of the P30 Pro, Apple may have anticipated it was going to greatly impact sales on high end phones and they are trying to compensate. Apple’s big disadvantage is their annual update schedule, whereas Huawei and other brands can be more flexible.
apple still trying to get china as a costumer
good luck with that
I heard that Huawei and samsung are running strong on china
nice try apple but even lowering the prices might not do it
it seems like the chinese people doesn't want your phone
I talked about this recently
eventually apple will get to that point, people are just getting tired of apple
minimal changes, lack of innovation that even lowering the price is not good enough
I always knew that Chinese people are very smart
don't let apple fool you in April 1st
good luck with that
I heard that Huawei and samsung are running strong on china
nice try apple but even lowering the prices might not do it
it seems like the chinese people doesn't want your phone
I talked about this recently
eventually apple will get to that point, people are just getting tired of apple
minimal changes, lack of innovation that even lowering the price is not good enough
I always knew that Chinese people are very smart
don't let apple fool you in April 1st
Yup and apple owns that segment as I said, all of the phones apple launched in the past two years are over $800 in China.
Yes and apple hasn’t launched any phones below $800 in the past two years. Have they?
I wouldn’t call Huaweis $125 asp winning, they are trying desperately to get into the premium segment, that 13% must be killing them.
Must be a reason their cfo uses an iPhone, an iPad and a MacBook. That was embarrassing.
Hahahaha you can’t be serious.
You do realize that Huawei only sold about 15 million units of the p20 and mate 20 lines in all of 2018.
15 million a year isn’t impacting anyone.
You don't seem to be aware that Apple shipped 34.2 million units in China for all of 2018.
All about the trend? Yeah no one cares about profits, good one. Trends. Great goal post move, no one saw anything.
While Huawei did increase shipments in 2018 what happened to zte, Meizu, or lenevo? They all declined by quite a bit in both market share/sales and profit.
Yes apple sold 12% fewer phones in China in 2018 but made 25% more profit, they called that increasing efficiency back in business school, the way they taught it was a good thing.
How much is the new mate x again?
All about the trend? Yeah no one cares about profits, good one. Trends. Great goal post move, no one saw anything.
While Huawei did increase shipments in 2018 what happened to zte, Meizu, or lenevo? They all declined by quite a bit in both market share/sales and profit.
Yes apple sold 12% fewer phones in China in 2018 but made 25% more profit, they called that increasing efficiency back in business school, the way they taught it was a good thing.
How much is the new mate x again?
No idea where you're pulling your numbers from.
If Apple made 25% more profit in China, they wouldn't need to issue an earnings warning in January.
It's pretty clear that Huawei's 25% growth in China is coming at the expense of Apple and others.
You don’t seem to understand that numbers represents 80% of all smartphones sold $800 and over in China.
How much does that 34.2 million units in China translate into dollars?
I will wait I’m sure you know.
Btw the 15 million number for the mate 20 series and the p20 series, that’s globally not just China.
It doesnt, but its growth depends on new markets such as China, India and Indonesia which combines, account for 1/3 of the global population. US is nice market, but there is no much room for new customers or profits increase, just keeping the existing customers and maybe attract some android switchers which translates into small variation in the market share, nothing more.
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If there is someone to blame about the prices in Europe, this is not Apple. 20%+ VAT is what killing the deal for us. So protest against your government for stealing 20% of all money you spent after being generally taxed when you earned that money in the first place. Sales tax are not that high in the US and some states dont have sales taxes.
well is not really how many they shipped, is how many they sold
apple end up sending that shipment back to USA
they probably sold 4.2 millions and had to send back 30 millions
iPhones made 25% more while selling 12% less in China in 2018 compared to 2017 models.
You might be getting things confused, apple never issued a warning, they issued a revision on revenue falling short of projections. Samsung issued a warning.
No it’s not clear, not at all. How much profit did Huawei make from smartphones in 2018 in China?
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WHEW.
You didn’t mention them but you mentioned the p20s successor, it didn’t sell well.
The essential was favorably compared to the iPhone and the s9, it didn’t do very well either.